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<chimkan> Hey
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<quuxman> Does anyone have a reasonable implementation of ctags for Ruby? Simple class definitions like "module Foo \n class Bar" don't create a "Foo::Bar" tag with universal-ctags and even ruby gem ripper-tags
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<radial> can someone help me understand this code? https://paste.pound-python.org/show/2bLXk7xMXZpmE9mIrzjc/
<radial> it comes from the 7'44" mark in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DqzaqeeMgY where the author describes it as: "A global variable that's an array that contains a list of directories, and then you would loop over the list of directories, seeing if the file being required is present in any of those directories"
<radial> but i don't see a loop over the parts of $LOAD_PATH, since he uses $LOAD_PATH.first
<radial> but i'm probably missing something, as i'm new to ruby
<law> can I do iterators in a heredoc?
<quuxman> seems ruby syntax is just too complex for reasonable implementation with ctags
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<law> I can't figure out what is making it spew like that
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<Jakaria> hi, I have a small gem development going on in GitHub... anyone is welcome for contributing :)
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<havenwood> Jakaria: Grats on the gem!
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<Jakaria> thanks :D
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<dminuoso> radial: The loop is implicit in Enumerable#first
<radial> where can i read about how that works?
<dminuoso> radial: #first meanWhich uh...
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<dminuoso> radial: Well, I woke up about 30 minutes ago so I get this one for free.
<dminuoso> radial: That's a bug in the code.
<dminuoso> radial: The author probably meant to use Enumerable#find, since first does not take a predicate.
<radial> ok, yeah, i figured it was a bug
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<radial> i'm trying to initialize some instance variables in cucumber world file, and then use those instance variables from a step
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<radial> the problem is when i try it out, it doesn't work
<radial> and that just prints out: foo = ''
<radial> what am i doing wrong?
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<Bish> how can i make nokogiri not choke on this shit
<Bish> xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
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<dminuoso> Bish: Do you have an XML snippet as testcase?
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<Bish> hm it's userdata so i can't try to reproduce it, but it works just fine with the example i put together
<Bish> trying again
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<Bish> can't seem toreproduce it
<Bish> /var/lib/gems/2.4.0/gems/nokogiri-1.8.0/lib/nokogiri/xml/searchable.rb:198:in `evaluate': ERROR: Undefined namespace prefix: /html/@xmlns:v (Nokogiri::XML::XPath::SyntaxError)
<Bish> this is the error though
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<Bish> ill keep trying
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<Bish> seems like .xpath can go wrong if that microsoft stuff is present?
<Bish> but why does it care, i have no clue what a namespace is in that context ;;
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<dminuoso> Bish: Yeah well. Without seeing what XML you are dealing with, this conversation is pointless.
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<dminuoso> Bish: But yes, if XML has namespaces, you have to specify them in XPath. If you don't want that hassle, use CSS selectors instead.
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<dminuoso> In most cases they suffice (also they are much shorter and easier to write)
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<Terens> Does it makes sense to consume rabbitmq queue from rails ?
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<Terens> Also if i create a ruby microservice to consume a queue how tek heck can I scale it ?
<Bish> dminuoso: well it's a big html document where these namespaces are added, but never used
<Bish> maybe that is the problem?
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<Bish> dminuoso: thing is i am using xpath to walk over user data, with xpath, that always worked well
<Bish> until some user decided to use some microsoft product for generation of the html
<Bish> i am only searching for links and text nodes, can i modify the xpath so he doesnt car emuch about them?
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<dminuoso> Bish: Make a testcase out of it...
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<Bish> dminuoso: ;; but it doesnt break
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<Bish> i will go with remove_namespaces, and let future bish feel the pain
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<dminuoso> Bish: Use css selectors.. sigh.
<dminuoso> Or learn XPath.
<Bish> how would learn xpath help me in that case?
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<Bish> can i tell it to only search things without namespaces?
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<dminuoso> Bish: Nothing is broken. When your XML document has namespaces, you have to use those namespaces in XPath too.
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<amosbird> hi, what is continuation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation
<amosbird> I feel quite hard to understand it
<amosbird> is there an simple example in ruby to explain the concept?
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<dminuoso> amosbird: The exact execution state.
<amosbird> that's vague to me...
<dminuoso> amosbird: It's the exact picture you get from a debugger when you set a breakpoint.
<amosbird> ok
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<amosbird> so why do we need to suppoort it?
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<dminuoso> amosbird: You can use them to do a non-local jump.
<amosbird> so it's like generator in python?
<amosbird> what does non-local jump mean?
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<dminuoso> amosbird: It's almost, but not quote, entirely unlike generators.
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<amosbird> so it's not like function call
<amosbird> it replaces current callstack with the continuation?
<dminuoso> amosbird: the callstack is part of the continuation
<dminuoso> amosbird: a continuation is basically very similar to what setjmp does
<amosbird> ok.. is there any layman tutorial for this?
<dminuoso> amosbird: and calling the continuation is the equivalent of longjmp to it
<amosbird> does longjmp unroll the stack?
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<dminuoso> amosbird: it replaces it.
<amosbird> ok
<dminuoso> amosbird: it's the underlying mechanism for exceptions for example
<amosbird> i see
<dminuoso> amosbird: or catch/throw
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<dminuoso> and continuations are right in the same alley
<amosbird> so this is continuation
<amosbird> to continue from setjmp
<amosbird> and replace the callstack by pre stored ones
<dminuoso> amosbird: a continuation is equivalent to the environment that setjmp produces.
<dminuoso> more than just the callstack
<dminuoso> the entire execution environment
<dminuoso> the entire context
<amosbird> what does that context contain?
<amosbird> callstack, instruction pointer
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<dminuoso> amosbird: I think on a conceptual level those two are enough yeah
<kke_> anyone seen a list of ruby versions in different os distributions?
<amosbird> dminuoso: then the callstack is enough right? since longjmp restore the ip
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<dminuoso> amosbird: no, because the callstack just tells you about the stack frames
<dminuoso> amosbird: a continuation captures the exact position within that stack frame too
<amosbird> what else do I need?
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<amosbird> you mean the sp register?
<matthewd> I think it's worth opening with "Don't use continuations. People don't use continuations."
<amosbird> ...
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<Bish> dminuoso: and what if i only want to use the "main"-namespace?
<dminuoso> amosbird: Are we talking about Ruby details?
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<amosbird> well, i'm trying to understand continuation
<dminuoso> amosbird: That is basically a continuation object.
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<amosbird> so rb_jmpbuf_t is all we need
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<dminuoso> need what for?
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<amosbird> to restore the suspension
<dminuoso> amosbird: No.
<dminuoso> amosbird: Ruby operates on an abstract stack machine, and the entire state of that stack machine has to be captured.
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<dminuoso> amosbird: I mean just as a random example, "self" is part of that context
<amosbird> "the entire state of that stack machine" . is that equal to all registers?
<dminuoso> amosbird: Ruby does not have registers
<amosbird> ok
<matthewd> amosbird: Do you have an objective you're trying to decide whether callcc fits, or just wanting to learn out of interest?
<amosbird> matthewd: the latter
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<dminuoso> amosbird: I recommend you check out Ruby under a Microscope. It doesn't go too much into those specific details, but it gives an accurate picture of lots of Ruby internals.
<dminuoso> including the Ruby VM
<dminuoso> Well. YARV. :-)
<amosbird> ok, thanks!
<dminuoso> matthewd: Though I'm surprised that continuations are not used that widely.
<dminuoso> Especially in algorithms or parsers I could see their use.
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<dminuoso> amosbird: Actually the more I think, python generators could be pretty helpful to understand what they are about. In python `yield` basically captures the execution context, and `next` resumes right at that previously stored context.
<dminuoso> Though the better abstract term is `coroutines` rather than `generators`
<matthewd> dminuoso: I think they're fairly incompatible with block-based resource management -- as soon as blocks can be entered/exited an unequal number of times, things get unpleasant
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<nho> Hello!
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<nho> I'm building ruby 2.4.1 from source. configure script hangs on "checking for broken backtrace..."
<nho> Any ideas what may cause that?
<nho> Gentoo, BTW.
<dminuoso> There you go.
<dminuoso> nho: What is it trying to configure?
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<dminuoso> nho: Also just gist the entire output until it hangs
<nho> Moment
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<nho> No need, I backer ruby version to one without gentoo-specific patches and it got past that hurdle.
<nho> But thank you
<dminuoso> My initial instinct was right after all. :P
<nho> I just find this quite weird
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<nho> have a good day!
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<sylario> I am trying to undestand a line of ruby :
<sylario> ignore %r{^ignored/path/}, /public/
<sylario> first, is it two argumets, or one, I am not sure to really understand the regex
<dminuoso> sylario: %r{} is just a different way of writing // (except you don't have to escape slashes)
<Papierkorb> sylario: That line calls a method called `ignore` with two arguments. Both are regular expressions. The first one matches `ignored/path/` only at the start of whatever it is matched against, and the second regular expression matches the string `public` anywhere
<sylario> ok thank you both
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<jtperreault> 6
<jtperreault> ^ mistype, sorry.
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<gizmore|2> what is an easy proof for unlimited prime numbers?
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<Chef3000> I need to take part of a hostname and make it a variable. I need the 4th character to the 5th from last for example abcSTRING12345 is the hostname and I just want to get STRING out. Not sure if .split or regex is the best approach.
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<Papierkorb> Chef3000: So the format is, lower case characters (you don't care about), then upper case characters (which you do care about), and then some decimals?
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<Chef3000> no that was just to make it clear it is the value in the middle
<Chef3000> it will be lower case letters for the first 3
<Chef3000> and a mix of letters and numbers for the last 5
<matthewd> >> "abcSTRING12345"[3..-6]
<ruby[bot]> matthewd: # => "STRING" (https://eval.in/843989)
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<Chef3000> awesome
<matthewd> (though the numbers worry me a bit.. I'd try for a regex that matched the actual character contents somehow)
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<Chef3000> the last 2-3 are for the server number
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<Chef3000> I will try to make that work as a starting point. thank you.
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<radial> i'm trying to initialize some instance variables in cucumber world file, and then use those instance variables from a step
<radial> the problem is when i try it out, it doesn't work
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<radial> and when i run cucumber, that just prints out: foo = ''
<xelkarin> Is there a way to get a plain Rakefile to pull in required gem dependencies when building a gem?
<radial> what am i doing wrong?
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<nofxxx> xelkarin, run bundle in it
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<Mrgoose2> If i have the following names ["wan","ip","auth"] . How can i run parse_ip(results.{insert name from array here}.ip)
<Mrgoose2> is that possible?
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<havenwood> Mrgoose2: %w[wan ip auth].each { |word| parse_ip(results.public_send word).ip }
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<Mrgoose2> what does %w do?
<havenwood> >> %w[mr goose 2]
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
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<havenwood> Mrgoose2: The bot is down, but give it a try in irb or pry!
<Mrgoose2> ok thanks
<havenwood> you're welcome
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<Mrgoose2> ah, maybe slight confusion. results is an object. results.{wan}.interface_address.ip . I wanted to dynamically replace the part inside the { }
<Mrgoose2> if that makes sense
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<havenwood> Mrgoose2: Do you mean?: results.wan.interface_address.ip
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<havenwood> Mrgoose2: Just add the #interface_address to the code I showed you above. You didn't mention that previously.
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<SeepingN> >> %w(words in parens not brackets)
<ruby[bot]> SeepingN: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<SeepingN> huh?
<SeepingN> >> puts %w(words in parens not brackets)
<havenwood> Mrgoose2: `results.public_send word` is the part where #word is called on `results`
<ruby[bot]> SeepingN: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<havenwood> SeepingN: Bot eval is down.
<SeepingN> oh sorry
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<Mrgoose2> havenwood: still around? one more question
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<havenwood> Mrgoose2: yup
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<havenwood> Mrgoose2: At this time of day there're lots of folk to answer.
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<havenwood> Mrgoose2: What was the question?
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