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<lmat>
I have a app/helpers/sessions_helper.rb with def logged_in?; !current_user.nil?; end; in it. I'm trying to call that function from an integration test, but I get undefined method error. Should I be able to call helper function like this from integration tests?
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<fercell>
lmat: do you use the helper method in views or controllers?
<lmat>
fercell: I use it in controllers (and maybe views?)
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<fercell>
Please share your helper and test files
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<lmat>
fercell: okay
<lmat>
Oh, I just needed include SessionsHelper in my integration test \o/
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<leitz>
Have folks moved from GitHob to some place else? The only option I know of is GitLab. Recently, gist.github.com seems to have quit working with FireFox 60, where I am.
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<leitz>
Unless it's just my setup.
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<leitz>
havenwood, FF broke the ability to read an XML formatted document as a "regular" web page, sometime post 60. My paying job requires me to study that document, and it changes often.
<leitz>
Being able to read it easily, and also work with the XML programatically, is critical.
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<adam12>
leitz: Yeah weird. It was broken for me a while back too; the editor looked blank. But either Github or Firefox resolved it.
<leitz>
Hmm..okay, I'll hang out then. I pay a little for GH, but after the acquisition I'm a bit judgemental.
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<leitz>
havenwood, I know a lot of my anti-MS mindset is from ages ago, and I try to think before I grump. However, the Chef Sugar thing really angers me. I find the developers behavior reprehensible; both as a citizen and as a programmer.
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<leitz>
That may seem harsh, but I really feel that way.
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<havenwood>
leitz: I'm afraid a chef with sugar and ice isn't easy to search for...
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<havenwood>
leitz: I just see an empty readme with someone saying they yanked code because they found it offensive to have it used for oppression. Then all I remember is Chef claimed copyright and restored some repos.
<leitz>
havenwood, my perceptions may be my own, so don't take this as gospel. If I write Open Source code to help make the world a better place, I accept that some nitwit may use that code in a way I disagree with. Yet I hope, in the grander scheme of things, that the code does more good than harm. That is a social contract I sign by releasing open source code. Pulling code that others depend on, just because one entity I disagree with uses it,
<leitz>
violates the social contract I agreed to.
<leitz>
If I, as a citizen, am protected by the government, then whether or not I agree with everything that government does is not a decider if I produce code.
<leitz>
The same with Google's withdrawal of a project (I forget the name), because the developers didn't want to support the Department of Defense. Yet they enjoy one of the planet's highest quality of life because of the very people they won't support. Hypocritical.
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<leitz>
And of course, nothing prevents a hostile state from doing for their own ends what Google engineers didn't want to do to protect others.
<leitz>
Make sense?
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<havenwood>
leitz: I think I understand your position, but I'm not sure I agree with how it applies to the facts in this case.
<havenwood>
leitz: As far as I can tell, and open source author deleted a repo as a form of protest. I reserve the right to delete whatever I want as an open source maintainer. The open source license keeps the code open source no matter where it's hosted.
<havenwood>
an*
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<havenwood>
leitz: I don't think folk who right code owe us to keep hosting it, and the licence explicitly disclaimed any warranty of any kind, express or implied. If there's a duty, it's not in the law.
<havenwood>
write code*
<havenwood>
jeesh, I need coffee.
<leitz>
havenwood, I'm happy to respect you, and support your choice to disagree. What I understood from the events, as I read them (always factual, of course), is that removing the repo caused issues. Further, if the code was developed on "Chef time", it wasn't the developers to begin with.
<havenwood>
leitz: I am glad we don't have political licenses, but want to let open source authors protest however they'd like within the license.
<havenwood>
In any case, the protest worked in this case.
<havenwood>
leitz: They may be able to sue the author, but that's another question.
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<leitz>
Understood. If I were asked, by a business, "Should we use Chef?", I would give an emphatic "no". The secondary concern is for all open source software; businesses see a much higher risk now, and will likely move to closed source options.
<leitz>
I think the protest will cause Chef to fail as a company. Sorry for them, but I spend a lot of time with large organizations. They are risk averse.
<havenwood>
leitz: I don't think most folk noticed, but if they should take anything away from this it's don't rely on a single repo as a point of failure. That's brittle.
<leitz>
So, they protest wins the battle but will likely lose the war.
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<Intelo>
When `rake aws:restore_db` is run, which file /script is actually run?
<leitz>
they/the
<havenwood>
Intelo: It's unclear from that code. Is there a Rakefile?
<Intelo>
yes havenwood
<havenwood>
Intelo: Is that task defined in the Rakefile?
<havenwood>
Intelo: Ah, Rails. Is there a lib/tasks directory?
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<Intelo>
havenwood, yes; and thers aws file. It seems thats the one but how did you guess and what relation does it makes? Its not mentioned in rakefile
<havenwood>
Intelo: I guessed because of Rails convention, nothing else.
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<leitz>
Intelo, if I understand correctly, Rails has a a certain way of doing things. Learning those ways is a part of the process.
<havenwood>
Intelo: Convention over configuration helps keep it "normal."
<Intelo>
hm
<havenwood>
Intelo: If folk follow the convention, you can jump into a project and know just what drawer to check in.
<Intelo>
hm
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<ytti>
more appropriately, there is lot of magic pixie dust which makes it very fast to build things
<ytti>
because things are inferred for you
<ytti>
you need to do quite little as long as you understand how to do it so that inferring works
<ytti>
so rails is not very productive for first project
<ytti>
but for 5th project you can do like twitch copy literally in 5min
<ytti>
it's pretty much a DSL
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<lmat>
In rails, how are model attributes specified? For instance, how would I add a new attribute? How would I add a new *transient* attribute?
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<lmat>
"Active Record maps your tables columns to attributes in your model" so rails starts by getting reflective information from the database? :-?
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<dStromboli>
Hey all, I have a question about link_to. I'm working with a codebase that has many instances of lines in .haml like: "link_to 'link name' some_path", but I can't find where some_path is defined in any file. Any ideas?
<dStromboli>
The repo I'm working with is a rails tutorial here, if it helps: https://github.com/paammar/rottenpotatoes-rails-intro . I know rails has it's own channel but link_to is a ruby function so I thought this would be the approprate place for that.
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<phaul>
some_path is probably defined dynamically by rails. if you do rails routes in the console you will see a list of routes supported by your app. With the routes you also get the _path methods too
<phaul>
the whole thing is largely controlled by config/routes.rb
<dStromboli>
That's helpful, routes.rb looks mostly desolate but it has "resources :movies" which I think maps functions to routes or something similar
<phaul>
dStromboli: it defines what requests your app responds to and how to map those requests to controller actions. _path method is getting a url for the request endpoints
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<dStromboli>
I understand much better now
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<dStromboli>
What I'm still having difficulty with is where the prefixes come from, I ran "rake routes" to see what all routes existed, and it of course lists what route prefixes exist. Where are those defined, cause they're not controller function names or in routes.rb
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<leitz>
Anyone know the state of business at Travis-CI? I thought they were having issues a year or so ago, have things gotten better?
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<mwlang>
I know that Rack turns HTTP headers into a hash of key/values where the header key becomes “HTTP_FOO” if the original header was “foo”. Is it also “HTTP_FOO” when the scheme was HTTPS? or does it become “HTTPS_FOO” in such case?
<adam12>
mwlang: Scheme never changes the value.
<adam12>
leitz: Not sure of state of business, but I found CircleCI much easier for my Ruby apps for configuration. Easier to define matrixes, etc. All IMHO of course.
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