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<leftylink> while I don't know activerecord, may I hazard a guess that I would expect id to be associated with an instance, not with the class?
<leftylink> different instances may have different ids, after all.
<Mallot1> okay, so how do I set it up the way you described?
<Mallot1> leftylink ^^
<leftylink> shouldn't it already be set up that way?
<leftylink> I wouldn't know since I don't know activerecord, so I must rebuff your request for help directed toward me
<leftylink> I have no choice
<Mallot1> I don't know that's why I'm asking myself
<Mallot1> Thanks anyway though, I appreciate you answering anyway :)
<leftylink> but the problem of getting the ID of the last-inserted item. would this be something that others have asked before, and therefore can be found?
<Mallot1> leftylink I've already searched it.
<leftylink> good
<Mallot1> I come to IRC as a last resort after stackoverflow, googling, etc
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<Mallot1> Does anyone know activerecord here?
<al2o3-cr> Mallot1: have you asked in #rubyonrails?
<Mallot1> No
<Mallot1> thanks
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<havenwood> Mallot1: Car.last.id
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<Mallot192> Hey havenwood, thanks so much for your help, much appreciated!!! I got the get working:
<Mallot192> havenwood: https://dpaste.org/vYZA
<Mallot192> People like you are great, really helped me today! I only remember seeing Model.last.id once and not recently for sure. I'll pay it forward!
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<al2o3-cr> this is why it's paramount in learning ruby first.
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<simonfromspace> What book would you suggest to learn a lot more about Ruby? I love Sandi Metz, been watching her talks on YouTube and am thinking to buy POODR but wanted to check with this community for an opinion.
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<al2o3-cr> simonfromspace: watch dave thomas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2sgQ38UDVY
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<al2o3-cr> the best.
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<simonfromspace> thanks al2o3-cr
<simonfromspace> Watching now.
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<pwnd_nsfw> anyone want to write mallot's code for him so that he can stop asking questions that have easily found answers if you put in the 30 seconds?
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<hays> anyone tried asdf?
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<hays> it looks like it might be convenient to combine rbenv/pyenv and others into one tool
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<galaxie> hays: I was looking for such a tool for awhile, thanks for the tip!
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<hays> galaxie: i hope it works...
<galaxie> Apparently my library is putting on a little beginner's class on Ruby. How neat.
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<hays> awesome
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<leitz> Is it right to say that a Ruby class is a Constant?
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<CommunistWolf> leitz: they usually are, but don't have to be
<CommunistWolf> consider x = Class.new(Hash)
<CommunistWolf> x is a class with no constant
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<leitz> CommunistWolf, thanks! I'm writing a short tutorial on how to use a gem I'm building, and one of my beta tester's is new-ish to Ruby. He's a long term coder though, so I want to get stuff right.
<CommunistWolf> if you do `class x; end` then you'll get a SyntaxError (since x is not a constant)
<CommunistWolf> but, ruby typically has a way to let you do an end run around these kinds of restrictions
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<_phaul> I think it's better to think of it this way: classes are objects just like any other value in Ruby, and objects can be pointed to by variables or constants. It's not the object itself that's constant (although objects can be frozen) but what points to it
<_phaul> a = 'str'; X = a; here the same object is pointed to by both a variable and a constant
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<_phaul> leitz: ^
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<leitz> _phaul, thanks! I modified the sentence a little, but still need to work on it. Hopefully I can finish the first draft of the tutorial before I conk out.
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<leitz> Both brain cells are fried, but I got the first draft of my tutorial done. https://github.com/makhidkarun/ftl_tools/blob/master/docs/HOWTO/add_planets.txt
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<leitz> critique welcome, it's for someone who isn't a Rubyist coming in to help with the project.
<leitz> Assuming they know some Ruby syntax, anyway.
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<simonfromspace> nice work leitz
<simonfromspace> Does FTL stand for that game, Faster Than Light?
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<leitz> simonfromspace, "Free Trade League" is my pseudo brand. I also write sci-fi, and the FTL is a young political entity in the setting.
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<AndreYuhai> Hey there I am trying to deploy using capistrano but then I get: "Cannot load database configuration: key not found: "APP_DATABASE_USERNAME" in fetch", however I already have that in my environment variables and already sourced. What could be wrong?
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