00:57 <ocdtrekkie> I emailed frigginglorious. But for the interested: Use -- to separate vertical slides and --- to separate horizontal slides.

01:16 <taktoa> I wonder if there's stuff that could be done in terms of integrating Cap'n RPC with http://www.bus1.org/bus1.html

01:28 <mokomull> taktoa: what're you thinking? Pass around bus1 endpoints as capnp capabilities?

01:29 <mokomull> It's been damn near a year since I've tested bus1, but it was ... not very reliable at all last time I did.

01:50 <taktoa> mokomull: I was thinking the other way around

01:51 <taktoa> implementing the semantics of capnproto in terms of bus1

01:51 <taktoa> err capn rpc

01:51 <taktoa> and maybe gaining additional security properties because the kernel can enforce things

01:54 <simpson> Maybe. Sounds arduous. Also I don't trust bus1 devs to grok capability theory.

02:03 <isd> I haven't looked at the realities of bus1 lately.

02:05 <isd> capabilities as an operating system primitive are certainly not a new thing.

02:06 <isd> They're a good system level primitive. It makes me a little sad that bus1 takes the form of *yet another* subsytsem.

02:07 <isd> instead of making SCM_RIGHTS scale better or something.

02:11 <isd> But I feel like that conversation has happened in the channel a few times.

02:13 <isd> taktoa: finished reviewing your pr.

02:14 <taktoa> isd: ah, let me take a look

02:15 <taktoa> isd: is nproc available on darwin?

02:16 <isd> I don't know, and I don't have a mac to check.

02:16 <isd> But that code snippet is linux-specific anyway

02:16 <isd> I know it's *not* present on FreeBSD.

02:16 <taktoa> okay

02:17 <taktoa> isd: by the way, I've got two other teammates working on haskell-capnp; we're in #haskell-capnp if you want to join

02:18 <isd> I noticed some folks from the same school forked the repo :P. cool

06:43 <Nodeel> hey everyone

06:43 <Nodeel> just installed a new instance of sandstorm

06:43 <Nodeel> cant seem to login to the admin account :(

06:43 <Nodeel> stuck in a loop, anyone else had that issue?

06:56 <Nodeel> :-

15:59 <JonTheNiceGuy> Nodeel: just spotted this. You need to run the command to request an admin token. That gives you a URL to log in to.

18:57 <kentonv> Nodeel, did you enable the option "Disallow collaboration with users outside the organization"? If so, you must make sure the admin account is a member of the organization you defined. Otherwise you'll get into such a loop.

18:57 <kentonv> I'd suggest trying again without that option and seeing if it works.

18:58 <kentonv> (we really need to make it show an error message rather than just looping... known bug)

21:18 <ratmice_> so, capnproto can send pointers e.g. between structure elements, but I was curious if had a mechanism for passing slices into lists or blobs

21:19 <ratmice_> it seems you could easily role your own type for it, but didn't see e.g. a primitive for it

22:52 <Nodeel> thanks kentonv that was the issue :)

22:52 <Nodeel> much appreciated