01:00 <TimMc> Radicale seems a little buggy. :-

01:00 <TimMc> :-/

01:21 <ocdtrekkie> I found Radicale to be too buggy to rely on personally, yes.

01:22 <ocdtrekkie> I ended up realizing I wanted my calendar and contacts to live with my email as well. I'm not sure there's a convincing reason to separate them at this time.

01:23 <ocdtrekkie> Also, TimMc, I advise extreme caution with regards to Google's DAV implementations, if CardDAV is any example: http://blog.fruux.com/2014/10/16/google-carddav/

01:25 <TimMc> Hah, yeah, I guess I shouldn't be surprised by any weird behavior out of Google software.

01:27 <TimMc> I put a Radicale ICS calendar subscription into Thunderbird and created an event in Thunderbird. It promptly showed up in Radicale.

01:27 <TimMc> But then when I opened the event in Radicale, it wouldn't *close* again, and then when I came back later... it had disappeared. D-:

01:28 <TimMc> (which might be a result of clicking "publish calendar" in Thunderbird before Thunderbird had learned about the even it itself had created in Radicale but uh... yikes)

01:28 <TimMc> *event

01:31 <ocdtrekkie> Personally, I'm good letting a "friendly" web server be the store of record for my info, as long as it can be locally backed up.

01:32 <ocdtrekkie> My hope is perhaps that if Kenton gets mail on Sandstorm up to par, strong contact and calendar support will come with it.

01:32 <TimMc> This version of Radicale is *really* old, I guess. 1.1.1 vs. 2.1.8.

01:32 <ocdtrekkie> (Though I am currently quite infatuated with FastMail, it would be hard to leave. I have the sort of reckless <3 for this team I used to have for Google.)

01:33 <ocdtrekkie> The main difference though is that my email address is a domain of my own, and as I transition away from Google-proprietary design such as labels to IMAP-standard folders, I am in a position that future transitions of email to other places should be much more seamless. The lock-in is gone.

01:34 <TimMc> Fastmail is great. But I use Claws, a desktop client, to access my mail.

01:34 <TimMc> Same here re: domains. Was on Cotse before Fastmail, and before that on Google Mail.

01:34 <ocdtrekkie> I'm pretty happy with web clients, though I've been using Outlook to migrate emails gradually over from Gmail, and maintain a local backup of both.

01:35 <ocdtrekkie> Of course, crossing fingers until I inevitably corrupt the OST, because that's what happens when you use Outlook for things.

01:44 <TimMc> I briefly contemplated seeing if I could package a newer version of Radicale but I *really* don't need another yak to shave. :-P

01:48 <ocdtrekkie> Unfortunately, I think a lot of people are interested in updated versions of the packages, but very few people have the time or drive to generate them. :/

02:30 <TimMc> sandstorm-radicale has a HACKING.md but it looks like it was cut off halfway through the last line -.-