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digshadow >
pointfree, diamondm1n: good seeing you tonight
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digshadow >
per discussion, I'll clean up the xc2018 docs I wrote and push them out, probably to the wiki
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digshadow >
we should also look into organizing a more serious local meetup for openfpga specifically
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digshadow >
let me know if you want me to head that up
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whitequark >
digshadow: i'd maybe like to have some say in when it is
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whitequark >
USG is being really obnoxious about my visa again..
06:20
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digshadow >
are you stopping by soon?
06:20
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whitequark >
once I get clearance (in 4-6 weeks)
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<
whitequark >
I get the visa
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digshadow >
well, we can also have multiple meetings :P
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azonenberg >
whitequark: you going to be going to bay area? seattle area? nyc area? or what
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<
whitequark >
seattle area
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whitequark >
will stop by the bay area too BUT it's really expensive
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<
whitequark >
so not for long
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whitequark >
i'll be in seattle for like a month
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digshadow >
ah you mean expensive to stay
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digshadow >
not get there
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whitequark >
indeed
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whitequark >
it's expensive to get
*anywhere* from HK
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azonenberg >
whitequark: well you def will have to check out my lab at some point then
06:22
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whitequark >
indeed
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azonenberg >
i just got home like 15 mins ago
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digshadow >
azonenberg: lab sweet lab :)
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azonenberg >
May be taking a 1-2 day trip to portland for work in the next few weeks, date TBD
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azonenberg >
but otherwise expecting to be around
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whitequark >
I'm travelling for the next month, and 1-2 months starting around january
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whitequark >
... but somewhere in between that should fit
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whitequark >
... i thik
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digshadow >
also a bit of context here on the xc2018
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digshadow >
someone local has an xc2018 design from a bit of apple II hardware
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digshadow >
and they want to know more about it
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azonenberg >
whitequark: well maybe some evening(s) after work, or over a weekend, or something
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digshadow >
so its a good excuse to play with that project some more
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azonenberg >
we can have a little openfpga hackathon at my place
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whitequark >
azonenberg: sounds good
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* azonenberg
needs to figure out why his work laptop is running warm
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rqou >
oh herp derp i totally forgot that some people were doing a mountain view meetup today
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* rqou
needs to fix my sleep cycles again
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azonenberg >
just blrw it out with canned air and it's still 37C CPU temp
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whitequark >
digshadow: it's a bit irritating that mtvre is 2nd wednesday (or what was it)
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whitequark >
and llvm meeting is 1st of month
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whitequark >
also in bay area
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azonenberg >
Aaanyway i need to get some sleep
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azonenberg >
its 2325 local time
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whitequark >
i don't want to stay for that long but also don't want a flight :p
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azonenberg >
Been up since 0200 local
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rqou >
azonenberg: that's early :P
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azonenberg >
aka 0500 eastern
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<
azonenberg >
looong travel day
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azonenberg >
three taxis, a ferry, and one flight on two planes with a 6-hour delay due to multiple cascaded mechanical failures
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digshadow >
rqou: yeah we were mentioning there was another guy
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whitequark >
azonenberg: ... by any chance, an engine and an aircon?
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azonenberg >
First one was a relay failure in some electrical system, captain did not give details
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azonenberg >
we waited on the ramp for a spare to get installed
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azonenberg >
That revealed a new, bigger problem
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azonenberg >
i tried to listen in to the radio comms but it was DMR and my ham rig couldn't decode it
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azonenberg >
didnt have a SDR with me
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azonenberg >
after a half hour of troubleshooting they gave up
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azonenberg >
deplaned
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azonenberg >
moved 20 gates down the terminal
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rqou >
wait, I thought only chinese/eastern european airlines managed to have amazing failures like that? :P
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azonenberg >
waited half an hour for another plane to arrive
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azonenberg >
then we got on a new plane
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azonenberg >
sat down, were about to push back
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azonenberg >
captain gave the order to close the doors
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azonenberg >
one of them didnt want to close
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whitequark >
rqou: with the amount of cost cutting that north american airlines do, i'm not sure how they manage to stay in air
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azonenberg >
so we had a maintenance crew with a grease gun running down the aisle of the plane
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azonenberg >
lubing the rear service door enough that it'd shut
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azonenberg >
Once we actually took off (about the estimated
*arrival* time of the flight)
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azonenberg >
it ran without incident
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rqou >
i think i have a better flight story though
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azonenberg >
rqou: fwiw this was delta flying JFK -> SEA
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azonenberg >
And, save it for tomorrow or i'll read scrollback
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azonenberg >
i need to sleep NAO :p
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rqou >
there was a summer where my father and i flew to HK for a long weekend to take care of random misc stuff
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rqou >
it was supposed to be leaving friday and returning monday
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rqou >
and on monday, Asiana Airlines crashes their plane at SFO and gets all United flights into SFO for that day cancelled
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i then had to explain to my manager why i was stuck in Hk
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rqou >
for extra bonus points, when I was on the rescheduled flight from hong kong --> SFO, there were apparently some off-duty united staff on board
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rqou >
and I overheard them talking sh*t about the asiana crew :P
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azonenberg >
PM them and invite them to join
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whitequark >
pointfree: and post openfpga wiki to reddit maybe
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whitequark >
people malign reddit for good reasons but the topical communities are often good
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azonenberg >
Yeah agreed
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azonenberg >
like /r/yosys
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whitequark >
/r/yosys is basically just clifford :)
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whitequark >
i'm thinking of /r/welding for example (not that it's relevant)
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cr1901_modern >
"people malign reddit for good reasons but the topical communities are often good" Yea, I'd agree with this. I'm still highly unlikely to make any posts.
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pointfree >
diamondm1n, I'm interested in what you were talking about before I had to leave Dickey's Barbecue Pit last night.
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digshadow >
azonenberg: hmm there's actually a bit of activity on that reddit
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azonenberg >
digshadow: psoc? yosys?
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azonenberg >
yes that is the primary support forum for yosys
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digshadow >
well what I mean is too
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digshadow >
that there are evidently a pool of users
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digshadow >
more than I realized
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<
azonenberg >
it is the de facto synthesis tool for basically all open HDL work at this point
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cr1901_modern >
I'm not surprised at all. Ppl have been waiting for an open toolchain for ages
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rqou >
i'm surprised nobody else made one before despite all the people who would like one
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digshadow >
rqou: there have been some efforts
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<
digshadow >
I can post an e-mail from the debit guy
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digshadow >
if you are curious
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rqou >
(e.g. i'm surprised Sébastien Bourdeauducq (Milkymist/M-Labs) didn't make pieces of an open HDL flow)
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cr1901_modern >
sb0 did some Spartan6 RE
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rqou >
"the debit guy" also did some s6 work
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cr1901_modern >
He also RE'd the Ikos Pegasus, though that project fizzled out :/
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whitequark >
i looked into writing a par for s3e i think
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rqou >
someone who is good at compilers should do a VHDL synthesis tool btw
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cr1901_modern >
(though he's open to working on it again if he can get it back)
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rqou >
the #j-core people would appreciate it
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digshadow >
j-core was the project xilinx crushed right
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cr1901_modern >
I haven't contributed to #j-core b/c I didn't know it was a VHDL project :/
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rqou >
digshadow: no
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rqou >
it's a clone of the patent-expired hitachi sh2 cpu
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digshadow >
ah interesting
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cr1901_modern >
whitequark: Is the s3e layout known?
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digshadow >
JHDLBits
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digshadow >
is the one that I was thinking of
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whitequark >
cr1901_modern: there's a bitstream doc from xilinx iirc
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whitequark >
it might not be complete
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rqou >
my father mentioned that one of his coworkers got bitstream/routing documentation for s2 many many years ago (under NDA)
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rqou >
nothing ever came of it though
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rqou >
(vaporware project at the company)
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cr1901_modern >
Oh, well... that would be enough information technically. Interesting they would document it
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