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<digshadow> pointfree, diamondm1n: good seeing you tonight
<digshadow> per discussion, I'll clean up the xc2018 docs I wrote and push them out, probably to the wiki
<digshadow> we should also look into organizing a more serious local meetup for openfpga specifically
<digshadow> let me know if you want me to head that up
<whitequark> digshadow: i'd maybe like to have some say in when it is
<whitequark> USG is being really obnoxious about my visa again..
<digshadow> are you stopping by soon?
<whitequark> once I get clearance (in 4-6 weeks)
<whitequark> I get the visa
<digshadow> well, we can also have multiple meetings :P
<whitequark> mhm
<azonenberg> whitequark: you going to be going to bay area? seattle area? nyc area? or what
<whitequark> seattle area
<whitequark> will stop by the bay area too BUT it's really expensive
<whitequark> so not for long
<whitequark> i'll be in seattle for like a month
<digshadow> ah you mean expensive to stay
<digshadow> not get there
<whitequark> indeed
<whitequark> it's expensive to get *anywhere* from HK
<azonenberg> whitequark: well you def will have to check out my lab at some point then
<whitequark> indeed
<azonenberg> i just got home like 15 mins ago
<digshadow> azonenberg: lab sweet lab :)
<azonenberg> May be taking a 1-2 day trip to portland for work in the next few weeks, date TBD
<azonenberg> but otherwise expecting to be around
<whitequark> I'm travelling for the next month, and 1-2 months starting around january
<whitequark> ... but somewhere in between that should fit
<whitequark> ... i thik
<digshadow> also a bit of context here on the xc2018
<digshadow> someone local has an xc2018 design from a bit of apple II hardware
<digshadow> and they want to know more about it
<azonenberg> whitequark: well maybe some evening(s) after work, or over a weekend, or something
<digshadow> so its a good excuse to play with that project some more
<azonenberg> we can have a little openfpga hackathon at my place
<whitequark> azonenberg: sounds good
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* azonenberg needs to figure out why his work laptop is running warm
<rqou> oh herp derp i totally forgot that some people were doing a mountain view meetup today
* rqou needs to fix my sleep cycles again
<azonenberg> just blrw it out with canned air and it's still 37C CPU temp
<azonenberg> blew*
<whitequark> digshadow: it's a bit irritating that mtvre is 2nd wednesday (or what was it)
<whitequark> and llvm meeting is 1st of month
<whitequark> also in bay area
<azonenberg> Aaanyway i need to get some sleep
<azonenberg> its 2325 local time
<whitequark> i don't want to stay for that long but also don't want a flight :p
<azonenberg> Been up since 0200 local
<rqou> azonenberg: that's early :P
<rqou> oh
<azonenberg> aka 0500 eastern
<azonenberg> looong travel day
<azonenberg> three taxis, a ferry, and one flight on two planes with a 6-hour delay due to multiple cascaded mechanical failures
<digshadow> rqou: yeah we were mentioning there was another guy
<whitequark> azonenberg: ... by any chance, an engine and an aircon?
<azonenberg> No
<azonenberg> First one was a relay failure in some electrical system, captain did not give details
<azonenberg> we waited on the ramp for a spare to get installed
<azonenberg> That revealed a new, bigger problem
<azonenberg> i tried to listen in to the radio comms but it was DMR and my ham rig couldn't decode it
<azonenberg> didnt have a SDR with me
<whitequark> aw
<azonenberg> after a half hour of troubleshooting they gave up
<azonenberg> deplaned
<azonenberg> moved 20 gates down the terminal
<rqou> wait, I thought only chinese/eastern european airlines managed to have amazing failures like that? :P
<azonenberg> waited half an hour for another plane to arrive
<azonenberg> then we got on a new plane
<azonenberg> the*
<azonenberg> sat down, were about to push back
<azonenberg> captain gave the order to close the doors
<azonenberg> one of them didnt want to close
<whitequark> rqou: with the amount of cost cutting that north american airlines do, i'm not sure how they manage to stay in air
<azonenberg> so we had a maintenance crew with a grease gun running down the aisle of the plane
<azonenberg> lubing the rear service door enough that it'd shut
<rqou> +1
<rqou> nice
<azonenberg> Once we actually took off (about the estimated *arrival* time of the flight)
<azonenberg> it ran without incident
<rqou> i think i have a better flight story though
<azonenberg> rqou: fwiw this was delta flying JFK -> SEA
<azonenberg> And, save it for tomorrow or i'll read scrollback
<azonenberg> i need to sleep NAO :p
<rqou> there was a summer where my father and i flew to HK for a long weekend to take care of random misc stuff
<rqou> it was supposed to be leaving friday and returning monday
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<rqou> and on monday, Asiana Airlines crashes their plane at SFO and gets all United flights into SFO for that day cancelled
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<rqou> i then had to explain to my manager why i was stuck in Hk
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<rqou> for extra bonus points, when I was on the rescheduled flight from hong kong --> SFO, there were apparently some off-duty united staff on board
<rqou> and I overheard them talking sh*t about the asiana crew :P
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<pointfree> Looks like someone else independently worked on mapping out the UDB's recently: https://www.reddit.com/r/PSoC/comments/576in6/psoc_5lp_udb_placement_cheatsheet/ although I think he made a few mistakes. Another potential contributor to openfpga?
<azonenberg> PM them and invite them to join
<whitequark> pointfree: and post openfpga wiki to reddit maybe
<whitequark> people malign reddit for good reasons but the topical communities are often good
<azonenberg> Yeah agreed
<azonenberg> like /r/yosys
<whitequark> /r/yosys is basically just clifford :)
<whitequark> i'm thinking of /r/welding for example (not that it's relevant)
<pointfree> digshadow: I looks like maybe Cypress isn't exactly sunsetting reconfigurable analog after all: https://www.reddit.com/r/PSoC/comments/4poc4p/introducing_the_new_psoc_analog_coprocessor/
<cr1901_modern> "people malign reddit for good reasons but the topical communities are often good" Yea, I'd agree with this. I'm still highly unlikely to make any posts.
<pointfree> diamondm1n, I'm interested in what you were talking about before I had to leave Dickey's Barbecue Pit last night.
<digshadow> azonenberg: hmm there's actually a bit of activity on that reddit
<azonenberg> digshadow: psoc? yosys?
<digshadow> yosys
<azonenberg> yes that is the primary support forum for yosys
<digshadow> well what I mean is too
<digshadow> that there are evidently a pool of users
<digshadow> more than I realized
<azonenberg> Yes
<azonenberg> it is the de facto synthesis tool for basically all open HDL work at this point
<cr1901_modern> I'm not surprised at all. Ppl have been waiting for an open toolchain for ages
<rqou> i'm surprised nobody else made one before despite all the people who would like one
<digshadow> rqou: there have been some efforts
<digshadow> I can post an e-mail from the debit guy
<digshadow> if you are curious
<rqou> (e.g. i'm surprised Sébastien Bourdeauducq (Milkymist/M-Labs) didn't make pieces of an open HDL flow)
<cr1901_modern> sb0 did some Spartan6 RE
<rqou> "the debit guy" also did some s6 work
<cr1901_modern> He also RE'd the Ikos Pegasus, though that project fizzled out :/
<whitequark> i looked into writing a par for s3e i think
<rqou> someone who is good at compilers should do a VHDL synthesis tool btw
<cr1901_modern> (though he's open to working on it again if he can get it back)
<rqou> the #j-core people would appreciate it
<digshadow> j-core was the project xilinx crushed right
<cr1901_modern> I haven't contributed to #j-core b/c I didn't know it was a VHDL project :/
<rqou> digshadow: no
<rqou> it's a clone of the patent-expired hitachi sh2 cpu
<digshadow> ah interesting
<cr1901_modern> whitequark: Is the s3e layout known?
<digshadow> JHDLBits
<digshadow> is the one that I was thinking of
<digshadow> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.arch.fpga/vniTxHYV9wo
<whitequark> cr1901_modern: there's a bitstream doc from xilinx iirc
<whitequark> it might not be complete
<rqou> my father mentioned that one of his coworkers got bitstream/routing documentation for s2 many many years ago (under NDA)
<rqou> nothing ever came of it though
<rqou> (vaporware)
<rqou> (vaporware project at the company)
<cr1901_modern> Oh, well... that would be enough information technically. Interesting they would document it
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