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<azonenberg> rqou: you got both of them?
<rqou> yeah
<rqou> i assume your $WIFE is being equally unproductive? :P
<azonenberg> No, sadly :'(
<azonenberg> ETA tomorrow evening
<azonenberg> we got one each but it was delayed in shipping
<azonenberg> amazon is usually really good about this stuff but they *shipped out* this morning
<azonenberg> we preordered moooonths ago
<rqou> hmm mine shipped out two days ago
<rqou> i also preordered forever ago
<azonenberg> yeah every other thing we preordered was fine
<azonenberg> idk what happened this time
<azonenberg> i saw that earlier :P
<azonenberg> oh wait
<azonenberg> not same link
<azonenberg> inter-vm cut and paste is a little wonky (I dont have a web browser installed in my IRC vm)
<azonenberg> Nice
<azonenberg> $WIFE has pretty much every game up to last gen
<azonenberg> well two games back
<azonenberg> one new gen
<azonenberg> She got Y and I got X
<azonenberg> then she got OR and I got AS
<azonenberg> now i'm getting moon and she takes sun
<rqou> nice
<rqou> for the gba gen i only have emerald
<rqou> it's basically impossible to pick up genuine used gba-gen games
<rqou> or earlier
<azonenberg> i dont recall what she has that far back
<azonenberg> when she got me into the series i started with leaf green
<azonenberg> this was in 2013 so... quite a retro experience :p
<rqou> i originally started with a (pirate :P) gold version (gen 2) back in elementary school
<rqou> i actually haven't beat anything past platinum
<rqou> still working on heartgold
<azonenberg> i played LG, HG, then i think got halfway through black 2 when X came out
<azonenberg> and switched full-on to the new gen
<rqou> at this point i'm working on beating at least one of each gen
<rqou> i want to do the "living pokedex" thing
<rqou> oh yeah, so i just finished trading over a starter from a new game
<rqou> normally uneventful, except my other 3ds looks "interesting" now.
<rqou> btw connecting sun/moon using mystery gift in the next ~month will give you a special munchlax
<rqou> also fair warning that pokemon bank doesn't support sun/moon yet
<rqou> hey azonenberg what do you think the chances are that this has a security exploit? https://goo.gl/photos/Mg16YhvWT1hrnF5cA
<rqou> cubic ninja v2? :P
<azonenberg> rqou: lol would be fun
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<rqou> blargh after enough time firefox will just get wedged to the point where all media won't play
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<azonenberg> rqou: i have to restart my FF ~weekly
<azonenberg> and keep it in a VM so it wont keep growing in ram usage until it bogs the whole machine down
<azonenberg> my fb vm has only 2GB of RAM for example
<azonenberg> and if i'm away from home for a couple days when i come back i typically find that it got oom-killed
<azonenberg> well, social media vm
<qu1j0t3> that's a p. good strategy but sad that it does this
<azonenberg> not sure if fb, twitter, or other stuff is the biggest offender
<azonenberg> I also virtualize for damage control if it gets pwned
<qu1j0t3> twitter seems to be pretty bad
<qu1j0t3> i avoid leaving that open for long
<azonenberg> social media vm is a big offender
<azonenberg> general browsing is next most
<azonenberg> even pidgin bogs down after 2-4 months running
<azonenberg> my mail client never gets restarted except for security patches
<azonenberg> actually i might restart pidgin more like every month
<azonenberg> now that i think about it
<rqou> i'm waiting for firefox to finish their e10s
<azonenberg> but its certainly way less than a week
<rqou> then you can have one process per tab
<rqou> and you can probably ulimit each one individually
<azonenberg> now that would be nice
<azonenberg> but the tabs will still leak horribly
<azonenberg> you'll just restart the tab instead of the browser
<azonenberg> improvement, i guess :p
<rqou> then it ooms itself
<rqou> although apparently on linux you can only ulimit virtual address size
<rqou> not total committed ram
<azonenberg> thats annoying
<azonenberg> i dont care how many files you mmap
<azonenberg> i care how much ram you're blocking other stuff from using
<rqou> but CoW makes that complicated
<azonenberg> (fwiw quotas in antikernel will be based on pages)
<rqou> (and introduces root exploits :P)
<azonenberg> And the lack of CoW or shared memory in general will make that easy to implement
<azonenberg> every page has one and only one owner
<rqou> that's not efficient
<azonenberg> even free pages (owned by the dram controller)
<azonenberg> Depends on your use case
<azonenberg> for desktop computing? no
<azonenberg> But i'm targeting deeply embedded
<rqou> ah works fine there
<azonenberg> Where you're not going to have 30 apps running with their own copy of qt
<rqou> in general imho linux desktop really needs to start using features the kernel already has
<rqou> e.g. ulimit, seccomp
<rqou> namespaces
<rqou> hell, even selinux/other MAC frameworks
<azonenberg> yeah that would be nice
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<carl0s> pointfree, eric_j , silly question, do you know if it's possible to know which PLD (0 or 1?, left or right?) was used based on the information on the .rpt file? So far i found the # of the macrocell.
<pointfree> carl0s: In the .route file you can see if pld0 or pld1 are mentioned.
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<pointfree> I don't know where that information is in rpt file, but from the Cypress PSoC Creator Manual it looks like you can force placement to PLD A or B.
<flaviusb> azonenberg: Is there a single concept of 'a process' in Antikernel? Like, what is your unit of 'thingness'?
<flaviusb> Because it seems like 'node' or 'address' or whatever is the closest thing to that. Is that the case?
<carl0s> hehe sorry, just saw it. on the report file is says UDB(0,4):pld0:mc0, on the rpt file i have [UDB(0,4)][LB=0][MC=0] so i guess LB is the number of the pld?
<flaviusb> (I am assuming that 'single owner' means 'single name/node has ownership', but I would be very interested if you mean something else)
<carl0s> pointfree, on the rpt file there'a a tag "Final Placement Summary" then another tag inside "Final Placement Details" and then "Component Details"
<pointfree> carl0s: That would make sense. I suppose it would change when placement is constrained to the other PLD.
<pointfree> carl0s: interesting.
<pointfree> carl0s: Can placement be forced to a specific input term of the PLD? It looks like placement can be forced to a specific macrocell.
<carl0s> i think so, i'm trying to find the name on the .route file
<carl0s> the XOR gate name is xor_1, so i think the name field on the directives tab must be \xor_1:pld0:mc0\ or simmilar, i'm testing it with a different mc#, but my pc is slow and takes ages to compile ;(
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<carl0s> pointfree, there's a whole section explaining the Directives, is starts on page 327 of the Creator User Manual, didn't see it b4, and yes it is possible to specify the macrocell within a specific PLD on a specific UDB :). Format is U(x, y, l)i where x is the row, y the colum of the UDB, l is the PLD descriptor (A or B) and i is the macrocell index, and it must be assigned to a output signal from the set of random logic you want to locate.
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<azonenberg> flaviusb: Nodes are a superset of processes
<azonenberg> a process running on a CPU is a node
<azonenberg> as is the management interface on the CPU
<azonenberg> or a hardware IP core
<azonenberg> They serve the same function as processes do in a conventional OS... they can own handles, be sources or destinations for IPC, etc
<azonenberg> flaviusb: also there's a chan specifically for antikernel
<azonenberg> #antikernel
<azonenberg> probably a better fit there than here
<azonenberg> (esp considering antikernel is currently being developed with mostly proprietary FPGA tools, none of the open tools are mature enough to build it, or target devices that are too small)
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<flaviusb> Cool.
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