<rqou>
not aggressively so, but it had a string of sploits recently
<awygle>
I feel like I hear about it all the time
<awygle>
But I don't pay that much attention
<rqou>
but i also want better support for ipv6, multiple subnets, and split-brain dns
<awygle>
iirc I was sad it didn't do dnssec right, but today-me thinks that sounds like I was doing it wrong
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<azonenberg_work>
welp
<azonenberg_work>
even NEW vmware needs a kernel patch to work on 4.13
<azonenberg_work>
But at least it runs
<rqou>
stop using vmware? :P
<azonenberg_work>
rqou: This will most likely be my last vmware purchase
<rqou>
i use qemu/kvm+virt-manager
<azonenberg_work>
They removed the one killer feature i used heavily (unity mode)
<azonenberg_work>
But short term i need to get my VMs running until i move
<azonenberg_work>
Long term i'm going to build a dedicated KVM server for non-performance-critical stuff
<rqou>
virt-manager is pretty garbage, but qemu/kvm works pretty well for what i care about
<azonenberg_work>
i.e. OK to access over VNC/RDP
<rqou>
apparently there's an issue with usb hotplug as usual
<azonenberg_work>
Then the one thing i do in VMs where performance matters (gaming) will run natively on $WIFE's new desktop, once i buy it
<azonenberg_work>
But i need one last copy of vmware until i have the time and budget to do that migation
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<rqou>
whee, bot is back!
<azonenberg_work>
yeah it runs on one of my vmware instances :p
<azonenberg_work>
Hence being down while rebooting/patching the host and installing vmware
<azonenberg_work>
My border router and file server are running old (but still getting security patches) OS versions
<azonenberg_work>
i probably wont do more than critical patches on those until i move and get the new network up
<rqou>
oh yeah, i'm slowly in the process of separating out the nas+build machine and the border router
<rqou>
having them combined makes sysadmining _suck_
<azonenberg_work>
Yeah i split my nas and border router recently
<azonenberg_work>
well ok when i moved here :p
<rqou>
because the requirements for both security and uptime are completely different
<azonenberg_work>
i dont have a dedicated build box ATM
<rqou>
e.g. border router - "security meh, uptime important"
<rqou>
nas+build box - "security very important, uptime meh"
<rqou>
my build box just runs on my nas
<azonenberg_work>
When i move, the plan is to buy a new desktop
<rqou>
good enough out of 10
<azonenberg_work>
with extra pcie so i can put a 10g nic in it
<rqou>
yeah, my nas already has that
<azonenberg_work>
then move my current desktop mobo into a 2U rack case
<azonenberg_work>
once i pull out the nvidia card, i'll have free pcie for a 10g nic
<rqou>
i'm going to move the border router to a nuc that i got my parents to buy for me :P
<azonenberg_work>
Then, until i get a 10g switch
<azonenberg_work>
run point to point 10g from the desktop to the VM server
<azonenberg_work>
32GB of DDR3 should be enough to run all of my VMs
<rqou>
it's a little awkward because there's only one ethernet port and so needs some vlan magic
<azonenberg_work>
considering i will no longer be gaming in VMs
<rqou>
fortunately thanks to US infra sucking, it's not likely i'll have >500mbps internet for a while
<azonenberg_work>
I care a lot more about lan-to-lan performance than outbound
<azonenberg_work>
My upstream is 50x10 i think
<azonenberg_work>
But i saturate gig lan and will make good use of 10G once i have it
<rqou>
same, hence a cheap NUC is good enough as a border router
<azonenberg_work>
I have a 2U box with an i3 and minimal ram
<azonenberg_work>
Close enouhg, but rack mounted
<azonenberg_work>
and well when you have a lot of vlans
<rqou>
but a nuc is smol and adorable and not unnecessarily 2U
<azonenberg_work>
good lan-to-lan routing performance matters
<azonenberg_work>
see, from my perspective
<azonenberg_work>
awkward smol boxes
<azonenberg_work>
that i cant rack
<azonenberg_work>
pile up and get in the way
<azonenberg_work>
i have rack space more than shelf space
<rqou>
well, my cable modem can't be racked either
<azonenberg_work>
i plan to make an adapter for mine
<azonenberg_work>
honestly
<rqou>
nor can the clusterf*ck of the wifi setup here
<azonenberg_work>
even if its just a rack shelf
<rqou>
also, if i had a rack, the cable modem+nuc still fit on one shelf
<azonenberg_work>
but we'll see what kind of modem i get from comcrap when i move
<azonenberg_work>
idk if i'll be able to keep this one on a new address
<rqou>
you can just buy your own modem
<rqou>
btw, i did mention the weird split network setup i have here, right?
<rqou>
there's _two_ switches here
<rqou>
one ebay datacenter switch and one meraki switch
<rqou>
the problem is that they're on opposite sides of the doorway, so there's a pile of spaghetti connecting them
<rqou>
and no, they can't be combined for two reasons
<rqou>
1) one of the cables going into the meraki switch isn't long enough to reach the other switch
<rqou>
2) the meraki wifi ap must be on the same side as the ebay datacenter switch because the signal there is better
<rqou>
2b) the meraki switch cannot be eliminated because it injects PoE for the AP, and we don't have a power brick for the AP
<rqou>
network planning is hard :P
<awygle>
Get a longer cable. Or get a reel of cat 6a and make one
<awygle>
My "network" is a WNDR4300 at the moment
<awygle>
Also I need a new laptop
<azonenberg_work>
And get a poe injector
<whitequark>
christ rqou
<awygle>
Hey whitequark, was your Twitter saga about the XPS13 a recommendation or an indictment?
<whitequark>
awygle: recommendation
<awygle>
Noted, thanks
<whitequark>
(of the laptop, anyway, not the repair service)
<whitequark>
it has kept together *far* better than I expected
<whitequark>
in fact I almost never notice that it has a totally blown hinge
<awygle>
Also thanks for running your irc logs btw. A very useful service on which I am nothing but a drain.
<whitequark>
I was quite expecting it to fall apart like the cheap stamped aluminium crap that passes for cases these days but no
<whitequark>
I don't know how they did it, but it's thin, lightweight *and* sturdy
<whitequark>
the bottomcase is nicely machined from a single aluminium billet, not stamped
<whitequark>
the topcase is some carbon fiber wizardry, I don't pretend to understand it but it has not kept cracking after the initial incident
<whitequark>
it just has a fissure in it and ... that's it
<whitequark>
so, like, whatever? I'm not sure I even want to spend money fixing it, it's good enough
<whitequark>
there's also a complete disassembly manual from Dell so even if I do want to remove the thirty seven or something screws that hold the keyboard in place I won't have to go to ifixit
<awygle>
That sounds great, I am very hard on laptops. I'd probably get the 15 tho...
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<whitequark>
sure
<whitequark>
13 is tiny
<whitequark>
that's why I love it
<whitequark>
awygle: also do notet
<whitequark>
13 has such a small border around the display that it's almost 15" in the *effective* display size
<awygle>
Yeah I saw that in the ad copy. My current laptop is 17" and weighs like eleven pounds so it's a question of how small vs how light I guess
<whitequark>
ahh
<whitequark>
yeah then 15 is for you
<whitequark>
the ad copy doesn't lie btw, the screen really is glorious
<whitequark>
it rivals smartphone screens in densities
<whitequark>
it's honestly one of the best things I have laid my eyes on
<whitequark>
(I have the QHD one, so 3200x1800)
<whitequark>
I have all fonts set to render at 277dpi so I only have a little more text on the screen but it's a pleasure to observe it
<awygle>
IPS too, that's a must have
<awygle>
Does the QHD need the GTX?
<whitequark>
no, I have Intel only
<whitequark>
everything is super smooth with KDE and Chromium
<whitequark>
you do have to use browser with GPU accelerated rendering though
<awygle>
Tempted to get the GTX anyway... I don't really need it it's just habit.
<awygle>
Well this looks pretty sweet. Probably my Christmas present to myself. Thanks for the recommendation
<whitequark>
awygle: oh btw do check the reviews on your specific model
<whitequark>
they have a few different variants and I think one of them had issues
<whitequark>
pretty obvious ones so note the model number and google and that should do it
<awygle>
mk, wilco
<awygle>
goddammit. i just locked myself out of this VM in the dumbest way. forgot -a on usermod, removed self from sudoers.
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<azonenberg>
awygle: Been there done that
<awygle>
It is of course the one VM that I apparently didn't record the root pw for. Thank goodness for ansible.
<pie_>
anyone know anything on/what i can read about designing fault tolerant hardware?
<rqou>
hmm azonenberg: in your gp4 code, how "first-class"/"designed-in from the start" is error reporting?
<rqou>
e.g. if a design is unrouteable, can you track down what wires/nets were not successfully routed?
<rqou>
*wires/nodes
<rqou>
and then can that be tracked back to source code?
<azonenberg>
Off the top of my head i dont remember
<azonenberg>
I know it lists the nodes it cant place