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<kristianpaul>
he, finally 0 erros when reading/writing the namuru general porpuse register
<kristianpaul>
now to adjust the samply, not hard just keep in mind system clock is multiple of 4
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<whitequark>
wolfspraul: what do you think about iteadstudio?
<wolfspraul>
first time I hear that, interesting!
<wolfspraul>
checking...
<whitequark>
I've ordered some RF modules from them, and also a PCB
<wolfspraul>
give me some time, I will read about it
<whitequark>
they're cheap, they're clearly chinese, but they are quite good for such a cheap chinese product
<whitequark>
sure
<wolfspraul>
the chinese government is on overdrive right now, I need to get my tunnel stronger first
<wolfspraul>
I get resets all over the place, urgh
<wolfspraul>
how dangerous a standing tcp connection can be to such a wannabe empire...
<whitequark>
uh.
<wolfspraul>
I will read about iteadstudio
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<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: for a moment i was thinking you meant a physical tunnel ;-)
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<wolfspraul>
whitequark: ok I looked at this for 5 minutes now
<wolfspraul>
after 5 minutes, it looks like a seeedstudio clone
<wolfspraul>
what happens in China a lot is this: some company is successful, where successful means that 3, 5 or more people all are making money
<wolfspraul>
now
<wolfspraul>
some will make more than others
<wolfspraul>
which the ones that are making less will not like
<wolfspraul>
so they 'branch out'
<wolfspraul>
:-)
<wolfspraul>
they take everything with them, all files, customer database, etc. and setup a clone
<wolfspraul>
since seeedstudio has some success, I'm not surprised to see what looks like a seeedstudio clone now
<wolfspraul>
you typically find 3-5 companies in China all doing pretty much the exact same thing
<wolfspraul>
at that number the benefits of picking each others eyes seem to level off
<wolfspraul>
so we are at 2 now, some more to come :-)
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<wpwrak>
one problem of jamendo is that the have very few vocals for electronic stuff
<wpwrak>
ccmixter is doing a bit better. they have good vocals from "snowflake", and given the nature of ccmixter, everybody is reusing them. of course, this means that you get a dozen versions of each song ;-)
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<Artyom>
hi kristianpaul
<kristianpaul>
Artyom: hello
* kristianpaul
back from lucnh
<Artyom>
I've seen your message in the log. :) You managed to run mm+namuru with front-end clock?
<kristianpaul>
yes
<kristianpaul>
now fixiting namuru timing to sycn all sample to sytem_clock/4
<kristianpaul>
timing/tic
<kristianpaul>
and then back to where i started one month ago ;-)
<kristianpaul>
finally 0 errors in R/W namuru so i coukd trust memory
<Artyom>
great :)
<Artyom>
Now I'm in the tail ;)
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<kristianpaul>
no no
<kristianpaul>
Artyom: actually i think i could prepare a milkymist soc foryou
<kristianpaul>
i *guess* that for tracking a single channel 128K should be enough
<kristianpaul>
i was reading the other daya datasheet of a gps baseband from atmel
<Artyom>
interesting, but I think that with my boards it would be difficult ;)
<kristianpaul>
it uses a ~700K internal rom plus 128K ram if i recall correctly
<Artyom>
my current plan is to start from the beginning ;)
<kristianpaul>
why? i just instanciate ram in HDL no chip specific libraries
<kristianpaul>
sure
<kristianpaul>
byt was suefull for you the hello world i pointed last day?
<Artyom>
Today I have finally installed all required soft in linux (previously I used some win soft and some linux)
<kristianpaul>
good
<Artyom>
I sucessed with xilinx ISE installation... That was the worst thing
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<Artyom>
especially drivers for usb-programmer
<Artyom>
But today finally I managed to compile and to synthesis all the SoC under linux
<Artyom>
and I found a terminal program (cutecom if I remember well)
<kristianpaul>
yes
<Artyom>
I think I will start from mm-papilio port
<Artyom>
it's the easiest
<kristianpaul>
but milkymist bios dont bahave correctly in all terminal program
<kristianpaul>
(tail) i was kiding the other day,i recognice my lazyness, you are morefocused than mi for sure.. i still having problems to concetrate anyway..
<kristianpaul>
Artyom: what is the board you are finally using?
<kristianpaul>
i coul read about it and consider it for a more portable namuru-milkymist baseband soc
<Artyom>
I think I will use digilent spartan 3e
<kristianpaul>
okay
<Artyom>
because when I will better understand the SoC then I will be able to use Carlos results
<kristianpaul>
i think carlos results should work without too much understanding
<kristianpaul>
as i iremenber
<kristianpaul>
he developed a free software too to program board flash
<kristianpaul>
and did make work the sdram controler of milkymist for its board
<Artyom>
Yes, I though so too. And Carlos was very kind to answer on all questions that I have asked him. But ;)
<Artyom>
But there are a lot of new things to me
<Artyom>
like programming flash-mem
<kristianpaul>
understood, one by one
<kristianpaul>
btw M1 works out of the box with all this ram and flash praming :-)
<kristianpaul>
of course 500usd plus shipping to russia.. but i think you could buy a early developer kit perhaps?? wich is a litle cheaper
<Artyom>
like understanding how MM SoC downloads and so on... There are too many questions to solve simultaneously. So I have to move step by step ;)
<kristianpaul>
feel free to ask as always
<Artyom>
I will definitly do it when I'll have an oportunity ;)
<kristianpaul>
Busy at university?
<Artyom>
university and the rest ;)
<Artyom>
Task for tomorow: to study MM io ;)
<kristianpaul>
basically MMIO
<kristianpaul>
Artyom: check source code for cores/sysctl/rtl/
<Artyom>
BTW I looked a little in lm32 documentation and I didn't noticed mul (or div?) command to signed integers. And I remember that you had some troubles with signed integer...
<kristianpaul>
very ilustrative
<kristianpaul>
yeah.. i still not get all that too
<Artyom>
ok, I'll do it :)
<kristianpaul>
but yes there is mul div support
<Artyom>
mul, div is made only for unsigned integers?
<kristianpaul>
dont know
<kristianpaul>
you mind join #milkymist ?
<Artyom>
of coare no
<Artyom>
;)
<kristianpaul>
and ask lekernel, i really not very familiar yet will all math capabillites for our loved soc :)
<wpwrak>
lm32 ? isn't it called "divu", for unsigned" ? :)
<kristianpaul>
;)
<kristianpaul>
hehe
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: but signed supprot could be implemented in software isnt?
<wpwrak>
you can implement almost everything in software :)
<kristianpaul>
and the CFLAGS -mbarrel-shift-enabled -mmultiply-enabled -mdivide-enabled what for are?
<kristianpaul>
to use hardware support for this i guess?
<kristianpaul>
but then you said is unsigned
<wpwrak>
ah yes, they look encouraging. maybe they are for unsigned ?
<kristianpaul>
Artyom: i think my problem was with printf actually
<kristianpaul>
wich is really hardcoed to milkymist
<kristianpaul>
but then realized anyway i may need a custom printf to make all easy to scilba
<kristianpaul>
scilab**
<kristianpaul>
or gnuplot.. i'll see, but i'm really ignorant on this..
<kristianpaul>
still*
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<kristianpaul>
Artyom: btw you ran that osgps for in your arm+fpga,how much had it?
<Artyom>
sorry.. What do you mean?
<kristianpaul>
where you ran the osgps_mod ?
<kristianpaul>
was it in a arm processor in your other board?
<Artyom>
yes, osgps_mod ran on lpc2478 (ARM7)
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<qi-bot>
[commit] Werner Almesberger: neocon: moved over from svn.openmoko.org/developers/werner/neocon/ (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/7d0683b
<qi-bot>
[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/tools/xse-sane-init64: nice and tidy setup script for the Xilinx tools (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/448e02f
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<PiLeS>
Hoi. Anyone got any clues as to why jmarch-compiled nethack doesn't work on the new images? Also, any hints as to what flags were used to compile the version included in the image(s) -but without data files, and incompatible with jmarch's ones. I wanna recompile the lot, because a no nethack ain't no good! Any hint can save me some precious testing time. TIA