<rz2k>
we just dont have enough people capable of reversing vpu stuff.
<rz2k>
and people interest in allwinner seem to fade.
<sky770>
true
<sky770>
All were* hanging on allwinner until it became a reality..
<sky770>
well, Amlogic certainly has good prospects in this area :D
<rz2k>
only if they would support opensource and help, afaik people still dont have u-boot sources or something basic like that
<rz2k>
also they have gpl-violating NDA, but thats another story.
<sky770>
I am clinging onto Tom cubie :D
<orly_owl>
are there any satellite/terrestrial stb using allwinner soc?
<orly_owl>
*is there
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* sky770
will BRB
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<Gumboot>
Anyone got any juicy A6 gossip?
<Gumboot>
That question may force me into full disclosure mode.
<hno>
A6?
<lundman>
Ihave A4,lots of them
<Gumboot>
Apple A6. I hadn't anticipated that they'd skip the Cortex A15, but it sounds like they have.
<Gumboot>
But I don't know if that's confirmed.
<hno>
Is A6 relevant to open?
<Gumboot>
Not directly, but it's a point of reference.
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<VarmVaffel>
If the datasheet for my ARM mcu says that the EMI starts at 0x40000000, wouldn't that be the most logical starting point for the DRAM?
<hno>
Gumboot, From the little I know it's not a Cortex neither in design or instruction set.
<Gumboot>
I'm pretty sure the instruction set will be consistent with Cortex.
<Gumboot>
ARM would probably freak out, otherwise.
<Gumboot>
(that being entirely my own opinion, and all that shit)
<Gumboot>
Cortex A series, I mean.
<Gumboot>
I don't know if the Cortex branding will continue to non-ARMv7 IP.
<Gumboot>
Hm. Looks like the big delay at the start of building Android is a shell script... ?
<hno>
Gumboot, it's a custom ARMv7 based instruction set, dubbed armv7s by Apple, implememented in a custom core design.
<akaizen>
sky770: rz2k: I'm interested in the CedarX and MALI400. Working on re-doing the interface to libve and implementing the VBV and FBM into a proper driver/module
<akaizen>
I saw empat_zero got it working, so maybe the VBV, FBM and adapter from the sdk will work. But some specific init_data for the decoder for specific codecs is missing from the documentation
<Gumboot>
I guess it's one more thing that works out just like Intel. The eventual arms race of ill-conceived instruction set extensions. It'll be just like AMD versus Intel and IE versus Netscape.
* Gumboot
finds a reference but suspects it might be bullshit.
* akaizen
off to sleep
<hno>
Gumboot, only whata anandtech reported
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<hno>
and have no reason to distrust. Apple certainly have both resources and the right people to pull that off.
<hno>
and speculations immediately started on Apple switching to ARM for Macbook in future.. guess that's still pretty far off the map however.
<Gumboot>
It seems unlikely that they'd implement non-ARM-sanctioned extensions.
<Gumboot>
What I'm seeing suggests that it's just A15-class instructions, though. Not their own extensions.
<Gumboot>
Oh. Good. xcode is dropping ARMv6 support.
<techn>
mnemoc: Dunno if that patch is needed for r2p4 libraries.. but anyway I got gles acceleration working(with es2gears and glmark2-es) with r2p4, but ie xbmc crashes.
<techn>
but I'm currently trying to make that patch work with r3p0/1
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<MrWHO>
I was wondering if there was anyone in the channel... it seems really busy! :)
<hno>
MrWHO, yes it's a quite active channel.
<MrWHO>
I have an image for my MiniX - Mele_HTPC_120907_V1.2.img - and I'm on linux. I tried to use the depacker from https://github.com/amery/sunxi-tools/blob/master/phoenix_info.c, and it complains that it's not a Phoenix image. Funnily enough it ships with the PhoenixCard application...
<MrWHO>
..is it possible that the format of the image has changed? There is no "PHOENIX_CARD_IMG" in the image... so it would seem of a different kind of family
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* cat1
: allwinner added cpufreq_governor with rather funny name "fantasy" :D
<hno>
MrWHO, that tool is for dissecting SD images written by phoenixcard.
<hno>
The actual firmware image format is encrypted & obfuscated, and to my best knowledge there is only Windows tools for unpacking them.
<MrWHO>
I see...
<hno>
the ones who know the format do not want to talk about it.
<hno>
but there is two known tools developed outside Allwinner that can unpack the image format.
<hno>
plus that Allwinner also have a tool somewhere.
<hno>
in addition to Livesuit and Phoenixcard which both obviously also know how to unpack the firmware image.
<penguin42>
popolon: Click ont he click for larger image on there
<popolon>
ok, thanks penguin42
<popolon>
:)
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<penguin42>
popolon: The versatile express is basically a motherboard that you then choose a CPU module for, it's what ARM seem to release there new cores on first as their internal test board
<popolon>
is ARM the manufacturer of versatile express ?
<penguin42>
popolon: I think so
<popolon>
oh, thanks
<penguin42>
popolon: the board is built so you can build test boards for whatever hardware you're going to build into a SoC
<rm>
and it also has those horrible plastic clamps at 4 points
<mnemoc>
:(
<hno>
mnemoc, it's troublesome regardless from a license perspective, but what the heck.
<mnemoc>
:)
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<rm>
f*ck
<rm>
this one does not have pins
<rm>
at least it has holes
<rm>
which are not labeled
<Yaku>
does someone know if there is a special channel for allwinner a10 devices ? i am looking for an option to thether not my mobile connection but my ethernet on my mele a2000 with 2nd mele ICS stockrom
<rm>
"Ok, spoke with the factory and the 4 pins are not UART. There is a flymouse that is an optional add-on. The receiver for the fly mouse uses these pins for the connection."
<Yaku>
thx, just didn´t know exactly where to look, i just opened the mobile ap option and it opened the accesspoint and could connect to my mele from my sgs+, but i do not seem to be able to get to the internet, the box got a connection while under status it says it doesn´t i still can access the web from the box itself
<Yaku>
really seems to be the right channel since ur also working with an a10 device rm :)
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<hno>
rm, so it's USB then.
<hno>
most likely.
<rm>
Yaku, people discuss the A10 devices here 90% of the time
<rm>
so it is indeed the most suitable channel in all of freenode for your question
<hno>
and not so much the EOMA68 A10.
<rm>
naturally, people tend to discuss things which exist
<Yaku>
was thinking of buying an ug802
<Yaku>
but that´s rk3066 and no sources :/
<hno>
do the mele firmware have tethering support?
<Yaku>
yes
<Yaku>
i could put a 3g stick in there and it would thether
<Yaku>
tether
<Yaku>
but i want to share the ethernet rather then the 3g connection to have a mobile ap in a hotel
<hno>
that's more of an Android question than A10.
<Yaku>
what´s the best channel for android network related subjects ?
<rm>
I guess there has to be #android
<hno>
if not someone there should know.
<Yaku>
guess i have to register in irc to get rights for the channel