<L84Supper>
EOMA is still an embryonic concept with no solid spec and much left to the imagination
<specing>
a.k.a. vapourware
<hno>
would not call it vapourware.
<specing>
lkclware :)
<L84Supper>
keeps him off the streets and out of trouble
<penguin42>
hno: It maybe unkind but it reflects the facts; there is no board and there is no design available
<bfree>
http://icubecorp.com/products/ is I presume the cpu lkcl is (optimistically) talking about doubling, shrinking and speed-bumping for the "FSF endorseable" processor ... for 10 million dollars *pinky* ;-) can anyone find a product using it?
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<penguin42>
bfree: Oh well found, I did wonder what he was talking about
<bfree>
too many clues given ;-)
<penguin42>
bfree: If it was just a bump/shrink it might be possible; I'd worry more about adding sata/usb-3 etc, and also who knows what the power/performance would be - doing a single core, 8 thread cpu is a bit odd as well
* penguin42
doesn't know how much it costs to bake a chip these days - I guess 40nm isn't bleeding edge so should be a few $m cheaper; but still $10m is not a lot
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<penguin42>
bitcoinfpga.com has a figure of $4M for the masks
<specing>
we have a 2um fab at uni
<penguin42>
right but that's relatively like etching with a chisel
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<penguin42>
bfree: That sight is amazingly neive about the comparison of a quad thread 600MHz CPU to a 2.4GHz single thread cpu
<specing>
penguin42: indeeed
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<penguin42>
(Wth would you go 8 threads?)
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<Turl>
lkcl: I find it ironic that you are seeking to make a FSF-endorseable processor, yet you sign the document with your skype account :)
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<lerc>
Any reccomendations for a qemu-system-arm image for linux?
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<hno>
lerc, for what purpose? All Linux-ARM distributions have qemu images I think, pick the flavor you like.
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<slapin>
hi, all!
* slapin
is burrien in $work$
<slapin>
hno: hi, any tasty things re NAND?
* slapin
looks at wiki
<slapin>
no boobs yet :(
* slapin
is frustrated again
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<lerc>
hno: I've mostly been chasing broken links and trying images that turn out to be too old to work (like trying to grab stuff from http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/*)
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<oliv3r>
( . ) ( . )
<oliv3r>
there, boobies :)
<andoma>
impressive
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<slapin>
oliv3r: not wiki, though.
<slapin>
that's poor motivation - I always hang here already.
<oliv3r>
I can put up some boobies on the wiki, dunno if mnemoc will leave them up though ;)
<jquip>
LOLZ!!!!!
<oliv3r>
hipboi you need to read your mail better!
<mnemoc>
aaarg... I hate when they change the schema and "forget" to add the update scripts for pgsql
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<mnemoc>
oliv3r: fixed
<oliv3r>
works :)
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: I fixed master's includes/installer/PostgresUpdater.php ... but I now downgraded it to the latest stable branch (1.20) instead of the claimed "never-broken" master
<slapin>
mnemoc: why not just fix some version for a few months? :)
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<mnemoc>
slapin: security
<mnemoc>
I can't keep track of their vulnerabilities
<slapin>
mnemoc: distribution version?
<mnemoc>
mediawiki version
<RaYmAn>
there is a mediawiki in e.g. debian repos.
<mnemoc>
good to know, but running from their stable branch should work fine
<RaYmAn>
you'd think so
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* slapin
thinks, if somebody can patent rectangular hexahedron with rounded vertices, so is it possible to patent rectangular hexahedron with non-rounded vertices (or regular box shape)?
* slapin
needs money badly
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<penguin42>
slapin: Don't forget UPS have a trademark on a particular shade of Brown; I'm sure there are plenty of others to go for
<Turl>
mnemoc: I got hit by the 'failed to negociate properly' wemac bug :<
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<mnemoc>
techn_: got any private feedback regarding ft5x_ts/android?
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<drachensun>
mnenoc: I haven't been able to test it yet, its literally been answer all the emails, sync to send and 10 more are waiting for the last two days
<drachensun>
its next on my development to do though
<mnemoc>
drachensun: ok, I'll wait for your feedback then
<mnemoc>
thanks
<techn_>
mnemoc: no :(
<techn_>
mnemoc: have you seen freeze problems related to uart?
<techn_>
I have now compiled 8250_sunxi as module.. it loads ok.. but unloading freezes whole device
<mnemoc>
I haven't power up any toy in over a month
<techn_>
and I think it's causing boot freeze problems with my tablets.. 2/3 boot's freeze.. first boot freezes to u-boot, second to linux uart load.. third boots ok..
<techn_>
when linux uart is disabled.. every boot is ok
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<drachensun>
ok, in LXDE the patch seems to cause some oddities
<drachensun>
The cursor is not following my finger and I can not use the menus. I can launch items from my quick launch and then use touch
<drachensun>
looking at the xorg log I think its not treating it like a mouse any more
<techn_>
drachensun: could you paste xorg log?
<drachensun>
sure
<techn_>
oh.. I have samekind behaviour
<techn_>
but I can use menus
<techn_>
but anyway.. android results would be more interesting
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<drachensun>
well this image has something weird in the mali drivers is using or something but the mouse/evdev part is in there
<drachensun>
well in the xorg before it was picking it up as a mouse
<drachensun>
but I've gotta run, hopefully I'll be able to get back to this full time soon.
<techn_>
whee.. I have missed something improtant [ccmu] try to set apb1 parent to sata_pll failed!
<techn_>
if sata is disabled.. there is no pll6 enabled :/
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<Mehhh>
Does joshua from Rikomagic talk here?
<rz2k>
why he would need that? better harvest money from resells, lemmings will still buy stuff.
<rz2k>
same goes for miniand
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<mnemoc>
at least miniand makes their own board...
<Mehhh>
rz2k, pengpod?
<rz2k>
pengpod relies on us
<mnemoc>
pengpod is drachensun's project
<mnemoc>
he is here
<Mehhh>
Yeh I know, I thought that's what rz2k was talking about
<rz2k>
rikomagic just resells stuff
<Mehhh>
Luckily I have the mk802 so the morons will force more development :)
<rz2k>
miniand too, but they did their own board for some reason
<Mehhh>
::: claps :::
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<Mehhh>
Does the USB port ( female, standard size) support OTG if I short the left two?
<Mehhh>
and power
<Mehhh>
(mk802)
<Mehhh>
I want to rip off / reflow the full usb and make a micro usb
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<mnemoc>
aren't there $1 adapters for that?
<Mehhh>
lol i wish
<Mehhh>
most are 4 pin from china
<Mehhh>
also, i'm shoving it in a lapdock
<Mehhh>
so
<Mehhh>
i had to remove the large USB for space reasons
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<newa10>
hi
<Mehhh>
SUp brah
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<Turl>
mnemoc: ping
<mnemoc>
Turl:
<Turl>
mnemoc: did you read my earlier message about wemac? :)
<mnemoc>
yes
<mnemoc>
Turl: i guess
<mnemoc>
'failed to negociate properly' thing?
<Turl>
mnemoc: yeah, it's defaulting to half duplex, 10Mbit
<mnemoc>
yes, there is a ticket about it iirc
<Turl>
if you have any ideas to debug I can try them :)
<mnemoc>
not really. I have my head 99.98% somewhere else
<Turl>
ok, np
<mnemoc>
people has mentioned that we should switch back to usleeps
<Turl>
the bug isn't going anywhere I guess
<mnemoc>
which is the only bit of lundman's patch which still in place
<mnemoc>
i don't understand how a patch that made so much people happy in the begining, go that many haters now
<Turl>
if I use ethtool I can set it up back to 100Mbit full duplex
<Turl>
$ sudo mii-tool
<Turl>
eth0: 100 Mbit, full duplex, link ok
<mnemoc>
maybe related to the PLL change
<mnemoc>
yes, it's known
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<mnemoc>
there is a timing issue in the negociation which needs to be fixed. but reverting the usage of delay insterad of usleep doesn't sound like a real fix
<rz2k>
libv: techn_: I have a noobish question about dri2: how do we ensure that software that was compiled againts mesa libs will use our MaliDRI2ScheduleSwap (which is ARM's implementation of DRI2SwapBuffers) from our xf86 drivers?
<rz2k>
There is a structure (DRI2InfoRec) that is filled on init, but I feel that that is not everything that is needed.
<rz2k>
or we need to rewrite damn libdri2? mesa also has a libdricore right now and some basic drivers for omap/exynos/intel..