mnemoc changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/
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<niftylettuce_> oliv3r: https://teelaunch.com/#pricelist added our pricelist /cc Mehhh
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<niftylettuce_> oliv3r: do you know contact info for drachensun and hipboi?
<mnemoc> hipboi cubieboard org
<mnemoc> for drachensun, check pengpod site
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<ganbold> hi
<niftylettuce_> awesome cool :)
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<buZz> wow!
<buZz> awesome :D
* buZz is building a motorola lapdock laptop ;)
<Marex> buZz: that's completely s00per !
<buZz> hehe, s00p
<buZz> actually, i could use some soup, bbiab
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<xxiao> A1x is merged to 3.8 kernel
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<ganbold> why u-boot loads script.bin? is it needed for later OS except linux?
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<WarheadsSE> it sets up the parameters for the kernel on the a1x chips
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<ganbold> WarheadsSE: without it linux doesn't boot further except printing few messages
<WarheadsSE> correct.
<ganbold> WarheadsSE: which basically means linux doesn't find necessary addresses etc
<WarheadsSE> it looks, its empty, problem.
<ganbold> WarheadsSE: I see, when I try to run other OS with script.bin, it seems like problem too
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<WarheadsSE> Kernels (linux or android) need that to be loaded.
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<WarheadsSE> WarheadsSE | it sets up the parameters for the kernel on the a1x chips
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<oliv3r> hipboi: I think my payment didn't properly go through, my bank still says it's on hold by ali-express though, so can't pay it a second time? I think it failed due to not matching postal addresses. Let me know if I need to do something again?
<mnemoc> oh, a hipboi! :)
<orly_owl> \o/
<hipboi> oliv3r: what do you refer?
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<andoma> anyone ever seen this? dma11: channel has nothing loaded
<andoma> related to HDMI audio
<andoma> hm
<andoma> seems easy to reproduce
<andoma> just pause/unpause alsa playback fast
<andoma> this is on 3.0
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<oliv3r> hipboi: i received an e-mail from ali-express that my payment was not successfull, but my bank shows my money still on hold by ali-express
<rz2k> banks release money from hold within two weeks
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<Yaku> hey there, btw. does anyone know if the mele got gpio´s ?
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<mnemoc> no
<Yaku> thx, was just thinking if it´s possible to somehow attach a 433mhz transmitter to it but i guess in that case i really need to get a rPI or arduino
<Yaku> would be nice to remoteswitch all poweradapters or recieve temperatures from the wireless temperature and humity transmitters around the house
<mnemoc> you have the cubieboard and the olinuxinos for that
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<L84Supper> are the cubieboards actually shipping yet?
<buZz> mine is on a plane!
<buZz> towards me
<buZz> so, yes
<focus_well> where is mine then
<L84Supper> so shipping and almost arriving
<buZz> did you nag to get the tracking number?
<buZz> i did :P
<focus_well> :( I want one on a plane
<L84Supper> they didn't "sell out" after the first 100 orders? :)
<buZz> there are over 1000 made now
<buZz> i think mine is number ~800 something
<L84Supper> have the Hackberry boards shipped yet?
<L84Supper> and is it true that the Hackberry has no GPIO?
<buZz> i thought hackberry was just the mele a1000 ?
<buZz> without a case
<jinzo> it's the LY-F1 board yes
<focus_well> hackberry has no sata - a1000 has sata - strange
<buZz> so i am right?
<buZz> ah
<L84Supper> wasn't there a third a10 board that is just the board from a tablet?
<buZz> there are many a10 boards
<jinzo> and many of them are LY-F1 like board
<L84Supper> any GPIO on those tablet boards?
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<jinzo> afaik no
<mnemoc> L84Supper: the gooseberry
<L84Supper> yeah, thats the one
<mnemoc> then miniand decided to make a tablet board without tablet...
<mnemoc> weird people
<jinzo> I think that currently the only way to get A1X board with gpio is A13 olinuxino from olimex
<jinzo> but I may be wrong
<L84Supper> cubioboard says it has GPIO
<mnemoc> yes
<mnemoc> but availability is still scarse
<Turl> mnemoc: are we listing all the A1X devices on the front page?
<jinzo> that's what I was thinking
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<jinzo> something you can actually order/get in reasonable time
<mnemoc> Turl: the idea was to list the boards developed by the community directly and then a category tree for the rest
<Turl> mnemoc: what's this Net'sPC 2 then? :)
<mnemoc> spam
<Turl> want me to drop it from the home page?
<mnemoc> unless someone here considers it worthy of frontpage space...
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<focus_well> if one of us make a tablet make sure it has flap that opens and a generous number of GPIO pins available to hand :-)
<traeak> make sure the tablet actually works :-p
<Turl> lol traeak
<libv> the net'spc website is pretty... hairy
<libv> so not community at all.
<L84Supper> somebody should change the Topic to linux-sunxi.org
<L84Supper> it still lists a bunch of vapor
<Turl> libv: yeah it looks like scammy to me
<Turl> the guy writing the wiki page also wrote a translation to zh_tw
<jinzo> oh also as a side note mnemoc - TSevan
<jinzo> s/TSevan/tsvetan/
<ibot> jinzo meant: oh also as a side note mnemoc - tsvetan
<jinzo> at olimex said they have a A10s board in developement (but they don't know if they'll even producte the A10 or A10s version)
<jinzo> but, this means A10s is truly in the wild, even if allwinner is joking around with the product pages
<mnemoc> jinzo: he needs to make something very special to compete with the cubieboard, and that's hard
<mnemoc> 2GB and full IO would make a nice diff
<mnemoc> the cubie misses tons of pins
<jinzo> yeah I know I know, just saying - if nothing else they have quite a lot of experiance with manufacture and that's a plus too.
<mnemoc> but no one has ever made a 2GB A10
<mnemoc> jinzo: not sure if 4 layers was a good idea :|
<L84Supper> olimex also decided to layout in 4 vs 6 layers using kicad and also go with 2GB ddr3
<L84Supper> nothing like changing several variables at once on the first try
<jinzo> probably a cost reduction (or raither they can produce 4layer PCBS and not 6 ones - who would know)
<L84Supper> on a cpu with virtually no docs
<mnemoc> L84Supper: he hates to follow reference designs
<L84Supper> if you're making boards in volume 6 is about the same price as 4
<jinzo> I'm preatty sure he didn't do it "for the kicks" - or maybe he did, who would know :D
<mnemoc> i guess his usual factory can't do 6
<L84Supper> they only make simple boards, this one looks like a stretch for them, have to see what trouble they get into
<L84Supper> https://www.olimex.com/ AM3352-OLinuXino preliminary schematic is complete
<jinzo> yep, that's beaglebone SoC
<L84Supper> I wonder if the olimex form factor will be any better than the beaglebone
<L84Supper> the only way the beaglebone could have been worse is it if was curved or had something like a steering wheel permanently attached
<jinzo> haha :D
<Turl> mnemoc: I'm attempting to clean up the bug tracker a bit
<Turl> mnemoc: was this merged/sent to ML? https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/issues/99
<Turl> libv: ^
<slapin_> hi, all!
<slapin_> can anybody explain me how NTP works, especially about loop filter. I'm going to intervew and need to have some charm
<slapin_> I need offsec calculation algorithm, not average papers...
<slapin_> and yes, I've read RFC, but probably did not understood it fully, and read ntpdate source, which is even more intriguing
<slapin_> Marex:
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<Turl> techn is on a roll :)
<techn> Turl: I noticed that you killed couple issues.. and started look them my self :p
<mnemoc> Turl: no, it hasn't
<mnemoc> Turl: mostly because it works just fine on my builds
<Turl> are you building disp?
<mnemoc> I hope so
<Turl> drivers/video/sunxi/disp# ls ../../../../power/axp_power/axp-gpio.h
<Turl> ls: cannot access ../../../../power/axp_power/axp-gpio.h: No such file or directory
<Turl> drivers/video/sunxi/disp# ls ../../../power/axp_power/axp-gpio.h
<Turl> ../../../power/axp_power/axp-gpio.h
<mnemoc> i build defconfigs
<Turl> the patch does make sense
<Turl> are you building disp on sun5i?
<mnemoc> if disp is not in defconfig that's also a bug
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<L84Supper> these articles are so deceptive
<mnemoc> Turl: http://www.amazon.com/Kaser-NetsPC-YF810-8G-Desktop-Black/dp/B008PJV77S Processor 1 GHz A-Series Eight-Core A10-5700
<mnemoc> now cortex-a8 means 8 cores?!?!
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<Turl> ha
<Turl> 0 GB 1 rpm Hard Drive8 GB Solid State Drive!
<Turl> I bet I can store a lot of stuff on a 0GB disk
<slapin_> Turl: as your imagination permits
<slapin_> Turl: all of it is imaginary anyway
<slapin_> 1 rpm is interesting too
<Turl> yeah they spin it 1 time per minute just for the lulz
<Turl> as it's solid state :)
<slapin_> my old DAT drive seems to rotate 80 times faster, that's cool!
* slapin_ mean the one used for backups verly long time ago
<slapin_> Turl: solid state doesn't mean you can't spin it!
<slapin_> Turl: why 1 rpm? I bet I can spin it 1000 rpms!
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* slapin_ would be dead bored of something spinning at 1rpm
<slapin_> damnit
<L84Supper> so 8GHz ARM (8 cores x 1 ghz) :)
<L84Supper> but it's a solid state drive, they spin really slow, that's how they load balance the flash
<lkcl__> all right! board compile time!
<Turl> lkcl__: mnemoc was worried it doesn't look pcmciaish
<L84Supper> "0 GB 1 rpm Hard Drive8 GB Solid State Drive" not sure what good a 0 GB SSD drive is even if it's 1 RPM
<lkcl__> Turl: it isn't. it's too big. we know
<lkcl__> this is revision 0
<Turl> :)
<lkcl__> *shrug*. i made a mistake. told wits-tech "it has to be 85x55mm and here's the contact for litkconn"
<lkcl__> then they made the PCB 85x55mm and i assumed that they'd know to contact litkconn and ask what the PCB size should be
<lkcl__> oops.
<slapin_> lkcl__: and what happened?
<lkcl__> slapin_: they made the PCB 85x55mm
<lkcl__> when it should be around 75mm x 48mm in order to fit into a litkconn case.
<lkcl__> whoops :)
<Turl> if they can charge you for the work twice it's better for them :P
<lkcl__> we kinda worked it out with them - no there's no charge
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<Marex> slapin_: wat ?
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<techn_> Turl:
<techn_> undefined reference to 'WebCore::V8WebKitCSSTransformVal.. etc
<WarheadsSE> those are always fun!
<WarheadsSE> techn_: what prog
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<techn_> android
<techn_> in function WebCore::DOMWindowAttrs:V8DOMWindow.cpp
<WarheadsSE> mm
<WarheadsSE> slightly out of my area
<techn_> packages/apps/Settings/src/com/android/settings/bluetooth/BluetoothPermissionActivity.java:101: cannot find symbol
<techn_> symbol : variable REQUEST_TYPE_MESSAGE_ACCESS
<techn_> another problem.. :p
<techn_> Turl: should that android bsp work?
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