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<lkcl>
arm-linux-gnueabihf-ld: BFD (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.22 internal error, aborting at ../../bfd/reloc.c line 6298 in bfd_generic_get_relocated_section_contents
<lkcl>
awesome!!
<hno>
yes ld is a very nice & stable tool.
<hno>
but usually there is hints before it crashes.
<lkcl>
make clean...
<lkcl>
yeah. compile errors. make clean time. huh. why is ccache.... darn
<lkcl>
i think i forgot the make sun4i_defconfig bit, whoops
<lkcl>
diff .config .... sun4i_defconfig looked a beeet beeg... :)
<hno>
yes, sun4i_defconfig is just the defconfig bits. Not the full config.
<hno>
copy .config config-lkcl
<hno>
make sun4i_defconfig
<hno>
diff .config config-lkcl
<lkcl>
ack
<lkcl>
oh ok
<lkcl>
yes. duh
<hno>
be warned that 3.4 sun4i_defconfig seems to have forgot some bits like USB OTG.
<lkcl>
hno: loovely
<lkcl>
hno: could you drop me a .config somewhere (the one you built that mini system with for example)
<ssvb>
hno: presumably zumbi has some use for these binaries, maybe to run in qemu?
<traeak>
aarm64 :-p
<traeak>
why aarm who knows?
<zumbi>
ssvb: there is a fast model provided by ARM
<traeak>
aarch64 i guess
<traeak>
whatever it is
<zumbi>
aarch64 = arm64 (debian)
<traeak>
arm64 is definitley what everyone will call it
<zumbi>
it is tricky as sometimes you read amd64 instead arm64
<traeak>
aarch64 is pretty lame as well
<traeak>
"arch" is generic as theyc ome
<zumbi>
hno: and, no, there is no arm64 silicon
<traeak>
i want someone to start beating up intel at the high end
<traeak>
4000USD for a processor is out of hand
<mnemoc>
hno: there are not-cortex arm64 chips since over a year
<traeak>
and as i mentioend before the 3930k is more expensive now than when i bought it 18 months ago
<mnemoc>
hno: they were showcased in the same even arm presented cortex-a5x
<traeak>
non cortex? do they follow the aarch64 spec or just custom 64bit/
<mnemoc>
"compatible" with the aarch64 spec, but not designed by arm
<traeak>
no reason to be a total slave to arm, right?
<slapin_nb>
hi, all!
<slapin_nb>
have anybody signed NDA with allwinner?
<slapin_nb>
or is there any other way to get information from them?
<slapin_nb>
I just want to have insight on DDR controller configuration
<slapin_nb>
SDRAM it is
<hno>
slapin_nb, you don't get DDR controller details even with a NDA.
* hno
have not signed an NDA btw.
<hno>
mnemoc, right, found it now. X-Gene from Applied Micro.
<slapin_nb>
hno: if I provide chip and schematic details, will they send me the required settings?
<hno>
you can always ask.
<slapin_nb>
hno: whom should I ask?
<hno>
Eva I guess.
<slapin_nb>
hno: OK, will do, thanks
<hno>
but what makes you think you need special settings?
<hno>
are you doing a dual-rank configuration?
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<slapin_nb>
hno: I want to run low-end 128M x 8 configuration
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<slapin_nb>
hno: and knowing the possiblities, too, won't hurt - I could probably simplify my design knowing what layouts I can use.
<slapin_nb>
hno: I want to be flexible - I want to run single-chip 256M x 16 configuration, 2 x 128M x 8 configurations, etc.
<slapin_nb>
hno: probably dual-rank, too, as the chips might have different data lengths/placement.
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<slapin_nb>
Eva is too fast with answers...
<slapin_nb>
she asked of company name, which might sign they won't give the information out that easily...
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<hno>
slapin_nb, she is a business & marketing person. But everthing goes via her.
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<mnemoc>
damn. they gave away intel-powered "chromebootk pixel"s instead of announcing the exynos5410 variant :(
<traeak>
gave away to who?
<traeak>
sadly i doubt the exynos chrombook is very useful with a straight linux install
<traeak>
not as useful as an intel based one
<traeak>
blame that entirely on the stupid ecosystem the SOC creators have built
* ssvb
blames the shitty keyboard, the software is fixable
<traeak>
that would explain why the allwinner a10 is fully supported now
<mnemoc>
traeak: to google io attendees
<mnemoc>
ssvb: I was waiting for cortex-a15 thinkpads until they killed the last model with good keyboard (x220)
<mnemoc>
now there is no hope on having laptops with good keyboard anymore
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<traeak>
the new keyboard works just fine :-p
<traeak>
i wasn't too impressed with the old imb keyboards although my experience with them was some years ago on the x series
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<mnemoc>
traeak: you mean x230's ?
<mnemoc>
my x120e uses the same... and it's not horrible... but I still prefer the old school keyboard (available since the early thinkpad days until the x220)
<traeak>
yeah, the x220 and previous, i didn't tink those keyboards were all that great
<mnemoc>
anyhow... only the pixel and that apple thing has passed the awful 1366x768 barrier
<mnemoc>
and that's becoming a killer for me :(
<traeak>
for a 12" screen i'm totally okay with 13x7
<traeak>
on a 17" screen, yeah it's pretty lame
<traeak>
but who would buy a laptop with a 17" screen? yuk
<mnemoc>
Turl :p
<mnemoc>
but <13" at 2560x1700 feels amazing
<mnemoc>
but at $1.5k.... meh
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<traeak>
feels amazing? i guess my eyes must be getting old
<traeak>
but hey, if the new stuff forces the price down i'm fine with that
<traeak>
i just recall about 7-8 years ago sony had this mini screen thing with a ridiculous resolution and everything was microscopic
<hno>
that's damn small pixels.
<jelly-home>
the idea is not to have to care about individual pixels
<traeak>
sony vaio ux180p 4.5" screen 1024x600
<traeak>
that was pretty absurd with a default windows install on it
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<hno>
jelly-home, I know, but a lot of software still don't know about size just pixels.. and it's stupid.
<jelly-home>
it's a bit sad, considering XFree86 knew about dpi like 15-20 years ago
<hno>
a bit?
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<lkcl>
this is actually going to be an awesome cool tablet. 2 MicroSD cards, 2 USB-OTGs, Micro-HDMI, replaceable WIFI, software-programmable on-board controller for doing "weird shit"
<mnemoc>
and from there to the engineering board?
<lkcl>
yes.
<lkcl>
i've asked someone if they can do the micro-engineering board (just for headers)
* mnemoc
is not a fan of tablets .oO(while watching a google io session on his nexus 7)o
<mnemoc>
people usually has those built-in these days
<lkcl>
ok
<mnemoc>
helps to get fbcon sooner ;-)
<lkcl>
ack
<lkcl>
where am i.... what's next...
<lkcl>
errrr
<lkcl>
yes. usbnet.
<lkcl>
hmmm, why the heck would it say "could not insert g_ether no such device??"
<lkcl>
i realise i've got g_serial loaded...
<lkcl>
ah well, reboot and see :)
<lkcl>
oooo neeeet....
<lkcl>
fuck me it worked
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<traeak>
no thanks
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<hno>
lkcl, I rather not fuck you but very glad it worked.
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<hno>
and seems I have to do some workarounds in the default u-boot boot command script.. the hush shell in u-boot is broken and fails in quite unexpected (but consistent) manner.
<hno>
this affects the automatic selection of the right root device, including when you try to specify root= in uEnv.txt.
<hno>
or actually the automatic one works, but fails if you try to set "root=/dev/mmcblk2 rootwait" in uEnv.txt (or the saved environment).
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