OmegaPhil has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
OmegaPhil has joined #arm-netbook
OmegaPhil has quit [Changing host]
OmegaPhil has joined #arm-netbook
isacdaavid has joined #arm-netbook
<mozzwald>
lkcl: is there a pinout or schematic for the cpu card avail? i can't seem to find it if it's available. I looked here but it seems to be all datasheets http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/allwinner/
<oh2ftg>
but the page refers to allwinner a10, when according to my understanding, the current card as a20
curtis22 has joined #arm-netbook
<desttinghim>
I think I've seen it mentioned a couple times where the A20 is a drop in replacement for the A10
<desttinghim>
Take that with a grain of salt though
stamina has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
SirCmpwn has joined #arm-netbook
arkimedes has joined #arm-netbook
isacdaavid has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<mozzwald>
oh2ftg: thanks. I knew of the elinux pinout. was looking for the pcb pinout to see alternate functions of the cpu pins on the eoma interface (and internal header)
<oh2ftg>
no idea about internal headers
<mozzwald>
the sitemap at rhombus-tech site seems to be the way to find stuff. I didn't think to look at the a10 board
<oh2ftg>
and as the card is eoma68 compliant, the pins should match the standard
<oh2ftg>
mozzwald: me neither, I used the site map
<mozzwald>
which I think is same/similar to the a20 as desttinghim says
<arkimedes>
hey lkcl congrats on the funding completion!!
<arkimedes>
sorry i havent been able to work on the site yet got super swamped with stuff
stamina has joined #arm-netbook
<mozzwald>
yeah, pins on eoma should match the standard. I was just curious what other functions were available on them
<mozzwald>
and I think there is an internal header on the cpu card
<oh2ftg>
well the other functions available are the one's mentioned in the eoma68 standard
<mozzwald>
typically, cpu's have multiple functions on 1 pin. so, if one wanted to not use usb on a set of pins, you could use them as regular gpio or whatever else the cpu provides on that pin
Putti has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
<oh2ftg>
maybe, but with that software the card would become incompliant to eoma68 and noncompatible with all/most hardware made for eoma68 use
stamina has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5]
<mozzwald>
i understand, and agree :) I'm just curious
<mozzwald>
anyways, looks like the a10 schematics/layout are for the old eoma spec. I see sata and ethernet in it
<arossdotme>
mozzwald, there are no optional pins, use a arduino-like thingy for gpio :)
<arossdotme>
i use the sitemap my self to get around. the site does need work, i belive your welcome to try improve it, login and start editing :)
<arossdotme>
so then the question is what to make the menu structure into ? heh
<arossdotme>
decisions, ponders, debates, trials
<arossdotme>
etc
<mozzwald>
arossdotme: i fully understand what the specifications of eoma68 require :)
hssa has joined #arm-netbook
<mozzwald>
my point is, i should be able to work outside that spec in the comfort of my own home. this is free/libre project, yes?
<hssa>
pretty sure it is free and libre.
<hssa>
who are you talking to
<hssa>
?
<hssa>
I am curious if the main dev is here
<hssa>
thats why i ask
<mozzwald>
just making a point i guess
<hssa>
do you use trisquel forums at all?
<mozzwald>
i'm just curious to see the schematics if available. they may not be
<hssa>
I believe he has uploaded some of the source code to the design already
<hssa>
Rhombus tech maybe has it
<hssa>
on that website
<mozzwald>
i havent checked trisquel. i'll check it out.
<hssa>
I would have to look it up again but the people are trisquel.info said they
<hssa>
that Luke uploaded the schematics
<mozzwald>
cant find it in the rhombustech site
<hssa>
hmm
<hssa>
well if you want i can look up your question
<hssa>
Since you seem curious
<hssa>
I will ask that forum
<hssa>
you use linux right?
<hssa>
gnu/linux to be more accurate
<mozzwald>
yes
<hssa>
okay
<mozzwald>
thanks
<hssa>
oh by the way
<hssa>
I am going to make a thread about it on trisquel's forums feel free to look at the replies it gets okay?
<hssa>
trisquel.info is the website
<hssa>
go to the forums and calmstorm is my username
<hssa>
okay I made the post
<hssa>
I will no doubt return in the future
<hssa>
So if you see me ask me to look it up if you don't remember to do so yourself
hssa has quit [Quit: Leaving]
<hssa>
gtg
<mozzwald>
awesome, i'll check it out. thx
mm|Vamp has joined #arm-netbook
mattl has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
curtis22 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
mm|Bot has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
mattl has joined #arm-netbook
curtis22 has joined #arm-netbook
Kraln has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
<lkcl>
arkimedes: thxman.... just got a looot of work to do now :)
<lkcl>
mozzwald: there is an internal header... it's an FPC20 i think... i'm not going to be putting it on by default
<lkcl>
mozzwald: but please, if you're thinking of using any EOMA68 computer card for "non" EOMA68 features... please don't.
m6lpi has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
<mozzwald>
like i said, "in the comfort of my own home." I wouldn't release a real product that was non compliant
<mozzwald>
thanks for the links
<lkcl>
mozzwald: it's not so much that - it's that you'll end up developing something that, when *you* come to upgrading, you have to start again entirely from scratch... because you used a feature of the A10 that's not part of EOMA68.
<lkcl>
mozzwald: just bear that in mind. for example the A64 has a totally different pinouts... do the multiplexed functions of the A20 match even the *slightest* bit with those of the A64? absolutely none of them do!
<lkcl>
mozzwald: which means that you relegate the EOMA68-A20 to "just another SBC to be thrown into landfill"
<lkcl>
if that makes any sense.
<mozzwald>
I understand the concerns :) I don't even know if there's anything I'd use.
<mozzwald>
and it makes sense, yes. it's still anyones choice to do what they want with it
<lkcl>
mozzwald: correct.... it is.... but i'm not allowing people to claim it's "compatible with the EOMA68 standard" if they use alternative functions.
<lkcl>
mozzwald: that's *really* important because if people start doing that, they're in effect CLAIMING that they have authorisation to EXTEND the EOMA68 standard.... which they most certainly do not.
<lkcl>
mozzwald: thus they would be bringing the standard into disrepute.... and that's where i have to put my foot down.
<mozzwald>
lkcl: right. no one should claim to have an eoma68 compliant device if it doesn't meet the spec.
<lkcl>
mozzwald: correct.
<lkcl>
mozzwald: so with that proviso in mind.... feel free :)
<mozzwald>
my interest is for personal use. and again, I dunno if I will even want to use the multiplexed functions, or have a need. I just like to know my options :D
m6lpi has joined #arm-netbook
<lkcl>
mozzwald: push the boundaries. so... now you know :)