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<CamdenB[m]>
<jn__ "Camden B: this is the right plac"> Hi, I'm a kernel developer from DahliaOS, I work porting devices to fuchsiaos, and I have helped port ubuntu touch to my j4+, how could I help with this?
<jn__>
CamdenB[m]: currently, linux (or any other open source OS) doesn't boot on the M1 yet, so i don't think there's something immediate to do
<jn__>
you could read the wiki, of course
<jn__>
what kind of work are you interested in doing, related to Asahi/M1?
<CamdenB[m]>
Mhm, is there some kind of secondary bootloader in the works?
<Shiz>
since there's no effort like duplicate effort, I wrote a hopefully easier hackable img4 parser in Python
<Shiz>
CamdenB[m]: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Tasks has a list of all current tasks, we're waiting for the 11.2 release to have the final tools needed to boot custom OSes
<Shiz>
(and hi!)
<CamdenB[m]>
<jn__ "what kind of work are you intere"> Some kind of secondary bootloader idea, or when it is able to boot, work with drivers and the kernel. (hello to you too)
<Namidairo>
I believe he (I don't want to nickalert them...) was pondering whether to just direct jump to linux or go towards u-boot
<jn__>
Shiz: somewhat half-related to img4 files: is there a tool to convert apple binary devicetrees to dts syntax? (as far as i understand it, the data model is compatible enough that this makes sense to do)
<Shiz>
I'm not familiar enough with apple dtb vs linux dtb, but marcan indicated he didn't feel like it was worth converting them because of fundamental differences
<Shiz>
(in how devices are laid out, I believe?)
<CamdenB[m]>
I think a secondary bootloader would be better at this point in time.
<jn__>
CamdenB[m]: current bootloader plans are that m..... will run mini on the m1 and use it for experimentation and loading linux, for the immediate future
<CamdenB[m]>
m?
<j`ey>
jn__: I think the dtb binary format is still the same, so whatever dts decompiler/dumper should work
<opticron>
CamdenB[m], ..... == arcan, they're trying not to nickalert him since he's probably busy or sleeping
<Namidairo>
it's ~8am local on a Sunday, who knows.
<Shiz>
CamdenB[m]: right, but there's no tooling right now allowing it to run secondary bootloaders :)
<Shiz>
the fundamentals (and docs?) are there, but the toolings don't seem to be completely done yet
<CamdenB[m]>
mhm
<Shiz>
it's expected to release with 11.2 afaik, but i'm nots ure where that expectation is sourced from
<jn__>
j`ey: oh, interesting. i thought apple might have invented its own binary DT format, because OpenFirmware didn't specify one (AFAIUI) and the dtb format used with linux was invented for linux (AFAIUI)
<Shiz>
j`ey: they aren't identical
<jn__>
my point with converting the DT is mainly that the dts format is familiar (to me and probably others) and thus easy to read
<CamdenB[m]>
That makes sense.
<jn__>
(i'm assuming implicitly that it isn't very problematic copyright-wise, but i might be wrong about that)
<Namidairo>
does the xnu drop include their version of dtc?