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<adiabat> hi wizards, I have a smart contract idea I wrote up here: https://adiabat.github.io/dlc.pdf
<adiabat> would welcome feedback, especially of the "oh no this construction is horribly broken" variety
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<kanzure> adiabat: not related to your construction, (in fact this sadly uses sgx) http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/Town%20Crier:%20An%20authenticated%20data%20feed%20for%20smart%20contracts.pdf
<kanzure> adiabat: on page 5 last paragraph, the transactions are valid (broadcastable?) even though the transaction doesn't contain the oracle's signature?
<adiabat> kanzure: yeah, you can broadcast them, but it's a bad idea to do so
<adiabat> you don't know the private key that they send to, so you won't get any coins by broadcasting the "wrong" transaction
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<kanzure> adiabat: oh it's valid and broadcastable because alice and bob actually have to publish two transactions in the bitter regretful trade case; their scripthash outputs should only be sent once the oracle's signature is known. and then in non-adversarial average case, alice and bob should agree to skip those two transactions and forego their umpteen-million pre-signed transactions. is all of ...
<kanzure> ...this correct?
<kanzure> and the two transactions would be: one of the pre-signed transactions creating the scripthash output, and then one that spends the scripthash once the oracle reveals a value.
<kanzure> *and then one that spends the scripthash output
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<adiabat> kanzure: right; if they cooperate they don't need all the pre-signed transactions
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<kanzure> what is the actual value of the scripthash, and could fancypants opcodes make better conditionals? i guess some sort of checksnorr tree.
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<adiabat> the script itself is (keyA OR (keyB AND op_csv))
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<waxwing> adiabat: in "Transactions within the contract", the first two scriptpubkeys shown have A_i and B_i everywhere, but reading the rest of the page i'm thinking it should be B not B_i in the first, and A not A_i in the second?
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<stevenroose> Can someone explain me the rationale of BIP65's CLTV failed if "the nSequence field of the txin is 0xffffffff;"?
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<sipa> stevenroose: traditionally there has been a rule that if all txin's are 0xff..ff, the transaction is final, regardless of what the locktime sats
<stevenroose> so it's to make sure that when you submit an eventually-valid txn, you can still replace it with another one?
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<a87ry5> adiabat: thanks for the paper :)
<a87ry5> exactly what i was looking for, our discussions helped me a lot
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