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<Varunram>
does anyone happen to have test bitcoin they might be willing to sell or know someone who possesses large amounts of test bitcoin? need it for testing something we're building, thanks!
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<yanmaani>
Varunram: Why do you need large amounts of testnet coins?
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<Varunram>
yanmaani: for testing an application. nvm, got it :)
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<musalbas>
If someone generates a block with no transactions, what is the Merkle root of the transactions?
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<aj>
you have to have a coinbase transaction, so it's the hash of that
<musalbas>
Is having a Coinbase transaction consensus-critical?
<musalbas>
you're not allowed to make a block without a coinbase tx?
<sipa>
correct
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<CubicEarth>
musalbas: Bitcoin has a surprising number of rules for something that's a crypto-'anarchist' project
<musalbas>
anarchism doesn't mean absence of rules..
<sipa>
only absense of rulers :)
<musalbas>
anyway, so in theory that means that after the bitcoin reward goes below a satoshi, it could be impossible to make new blocks without a dummy tx if there are no txes
<sipa>
you'll need zero-value outputs in the coinbase
<musalbas>
ah
<sipa>
but those are already required anyway for the segwit commitment
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<sipa>
also, only an issue if a block has no fees
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<instagibbs>
was curious which explicit check would fail, it's error message "bad-blk-length"
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