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<jeremyrubin> If we disable CLTV/CSV time checks in Taproot by making them uninterpreted, we give ourselves an opportunity to ensure that for transactions only comprising taproot outputs there is not timelock incompatibility issues.
<jeremyrubin> A future soft-fork can re-interpret time based checks to not reference the nLockTime or the sequence value.
<jeremyrubin> sipa: roconnor:
<sipa> removing nLockTime/nSequence semantics would be a hardfork
<jeremyrubin> no; we're not removing the sematic of the field
<sipa> so given that those fields inevitably exist, what is the point of not having the opcodes?
<jeremyrubin> we're removing the semantic of the opcode in a Taproot context
<jeremyrubin> Guarantee that any two taproot outputs can be combined in a tx?
<sipa> at the cost of removing locktime functionality
<sipa> i think it would be more feasible if there was a realistic replacement already specced out
<sipa> using annexes or whatever
<jeremyrubin> which can be added back later with identical script semantics (but different rules on txn) later
<sipa> you can't assume a future softfork will be succesful, so this would potential risk ending up with no locktime functionality in taproot at all...
<jeremyrubin> ah
<jeremyrubin> you still have locktime height
<jeremyrubin> just not locktime time
<jeremyrubin> you're specifically only un-defining the time based params
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