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<maciel310> anyone know if it is possible to modify uboot to boot off of a usb flash drive?
<maciel310> I don't have a microusb handy but I have a ton of flash drives, and having to use LiveSuit constantly is getting a little tedious
<maciel310> r/microusb/microsd card/
<lunra> Hmm, the Beagleboard has USB boot, but that might be in its boot ROM. Moment.
<lunra> Yes, it's possible
<maciel310> awesome. will that work out of the box or would I need to recompile uboot?
<lunra> Just trying to work that out :)
<maciel310> thanks!
<lunra> Do you have a serial cable?
<maciel310> yeah
<lunra> your kernel will need to be recompiled to look for the USB drive
<lunra> (yes, I realise that is for the beagle/etc -- should apply here, too)
<lunra> scratch that. It'll need the root= argument passed to it somehow, which is possible with some other u-boot setting iirc
<xenoxaos> bootargs
<lunra> yep
<lunra> setenv bootargs root=/dev/ ... hmm, what would a flash drive be? /dev/sda?
<xenoxaos> most likely
<lunra> I'm actually saying all this blind, I'm still waiting for my cubieboard to arrive ;)
<lunra> (sorry!)
<xenoxaos> oh
<lunra> anyone know if it's okay to use a serial adapter that seems to use 5V levels?
<xenoxaos> i wouldnt
<maciel310> haha no problem at all, thanks for the info! I'm not in front of my cubie right now so I can't test it out yet, but I'll report back in an hour or so with the results
<xenoxaos> but you can do whatever you want
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<lunra> Well, any idea if the Rx pin is 5V tolerant?
<lunra> maaaybe that's in the datasheet, I'll look ;)
<xenoxaos> probably not
<maciel310> based on what I've seen I believe it is, so long as you don't connect the VCC line. Several of the serial guides reference not connecting that pin in case it is 5v
<maciel310> mine has both 3.3v and 5v supplies tho, so not sure what my rx/tx levels are
<maciel310> I'd assume if you have an adapter that just has a 5v vcc that its data lines would be 5v as well
<lunra> That's what I'm thinking...
<lunra> Maybe I should just spend the extra money on making another shopify order. What I did was only look at the 'recent products' list, and didn't realise that the serial cable was indeed available >_>
<xenoxaos> i have multiple 5v, 3v3, 1v8 serial adapters
<maciel310> yeah I probably wouldn't risk it myself. suck to brick a $60 computer to avoid having to buy a $5 part
<lunra> Yeah. The thing that makes me not want to order again is the $10 shipping for that $5 part XD
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<maciel310> haha yeah, that kills it. I got mine off ebay, like $3 plus free shipping (US at least). Something like this iirc http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-To-RS232-TTL-PL2303HX-Auto-Converter-Module-Converter-Adapter-5V-3-3V-Output-/370724353121?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5650e4b461
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<lunra> Hmm, thanks!
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<maciel310> no problem. ebay is usually the first place I go for simple parts like that. not always the highest quality there is but definitely save a few bucks especially on shipping
<lunra> I've found ebay to be a lot of trouble in the past, so I usually go to dx.com, heh. But I can't tell with their USB serial devices whether they're 3v3, even if they do provide 3v3 power lines and are PL2303 just like the cubieboard serial adapter
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<lunra> I guess, being $3, there's not much to lose :D
<maciel310> yeah, unfortunately hard to tell based on the listing. I was directed to that line of serial adapters for another 3v3 board, and I haven't fried my cubie yet so should be fine haha
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<maciel310> thanks again for the info lunra. I'm off to give it a shot, I'll make sure to come back and update on my progress if I get it working.
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<jelly-home> lunra: this one works on my cubieboard http://dx.com/p/pl2303hx-usb-to-rs232-ttl-converter-adapter-module-164590
<jelly-home> and the power line should not be connected anyway
<lunra> Thanks jelly-home! We'll see how the one maciel310 linked goes though (already ordered, hehe)
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<iliketomake> Hi all, I just ordered my cubieboard!
<iliketomake> Every time I think its name I thinks cutieboard instead.
<iliketomake> Strange
<iliketomake> Oh and I also order the case and one of those Motorola Atrix Laptop docks
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<dongs> everytime I think of it as dongieboard.
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<mtr> hi all, generating a livesuit image somehow fails here, after flashing onto the device the serial console says "c:\linux\linux.ini not found" and finally "No OS to boot"
<mtr> I followed http://linux-sunxi.org/Building_Android_TV_image, building on Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64
<mtr> using the github repo https://github.com/cubieboard
<mtr> are there known issues with the pack tools on Ubuntu?
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<shineworld> I'm using it without problems
<shineworld> same configurations than you only xubuntu instead of ubuntu, but that don't change nothing
<shineworld> however I prefer to put all on SD at moment so I've used LiveSuit only few times
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<shineworld> you can try to run your build OS to SD to check if all works fine or something goes wrong here
<shineworld> if you would I've a script to do that
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<shineworld> in upon link you start from a livesuit IMG file
<shineworld> in my script you start from openbox / opentv make result
<shineworld> so you don't need to run tools/pack-cmd.sh
<mtr> shineworld: ok, thanks, yes, would be great if I could check with your script as well
<shineworld> I'm putting it on dropbox
<shineworld> a sec
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<shineworld> the use is simple:
<shineworld> - enter in su
<shineworld> - with nano or other editor change DEV=/dev/sdX to your SD device name
<shineworld> - with nano or other editor change BUILD_PATH=/home/shine/android/build/openbox/out/target/product/cubieboard to meet your android build out path
<shineworld> - in support put your script.bin (there are mine at moment)
<shineworld> - run all with ./cubiecard.sh
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<shineworld> That's all folks
<shineworld> in partitions.txt you can edit your partition sizes for /data /system etc
<mtr> shineworld: cool, straightforw3ard, many thanks
<shineworld> I've do it for a 4GB card (I'm using a 8GB)
<shineworld> sorry if script isn't so good, I'm on *nix world by some months after 23 years of Windows programming
<shineworld> where script are totally unknowed matter :)
<shineworld> first time could be interesting you run manually each command to learn what do and how work
<mtr> your script looks good, fairly simple when one knows where to place which .bin file
<mtr> I wonder what these livesuit and pack tools are doing, looks like emulating an ancient 16 bit dos boot environment...
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<shineworld> I don't know, I've saw c:\... bla bla bla during pack-cmd.sh but is terribly ugly to read how script for me
<mtr> +1
<shineworld> however I can run it on my openbox and put it somewhere so you can try it
<shineworld> I've a build with almost all original (some modules was added)
<shineworld> I can catch the script output so you can match with your
<shineworld> just time to do a repo-status and watch all modifications ...
<shineworld> mtr, I'm pushing a build.log + img to dropbox if you would to try
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<shineworld> just time to download, I've a very slow net (like all in my f...ed country)
<mtr> shineworld: the pack-cm.sh build.log would be interesting, just to see if there are differences which might give a clue whats wrong with my packed image
<shineworld> 34mins left...
<shineworld> damn 34mins to upload 300Mb... poor Italy
<mtr> np, I'll try later, my link is horrible slow as well...
<shineworld> where you come from ?
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<mtr> shineworld: .de
<mtr> shineworld: living in an area with low bandwidth adsl :(
<shineworld> me too... the only fast ways is WiMax of to be lucky to live near some fiber served place but is very expensive
<shineworld> upload say yet 23 mins ...
<shineworld> that is really amazing for a 32E/month ADSL service: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2666112656.png
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<mtr> shineworld: my android img copied to the sd-card seems to work, thanks for your script
<shineworld> good to know !
<mtr> so I suspect these myterious allwinner binary pack tools ...
<shineworld> the only thing I've to fix is how /sdcard is mounted
<shineworld> 75% of download
<shineworld> if you remain here I can write you the link
<shineworld> a moment ...
<shineworld> at moment the img file is downloading so you can't see it yet
<shineworld> differences by repo on github:
<shineworld> - compiled with touchscreen module (resistive)
<shineworld> - enabled full compilation of TSCalibration2
<shineworld> - modified DisplayManager so it put in log any function calls (I'm trying to solve a bug) don't matter for your test because use of DisplayManager and related log are rare
<mtr> my changes are related to the wifi driver, I rebuild the kernel to include the rt2x00 modules
<shineworld> wow I need that
<shineworld> have you the cubieboard_defconfig ?
<shineworld> I would like to use a Ralink USB wifi key from asus
<mtr> did not do much with android yet, seems the config needs still some tweeks...
<shineworld> I've tried to enable rt2x00 but not worked
<shineworld> have you god good results ? works ?
<mtr> basically yes, the rt2x00usb and rt2x00lib modules are included in the image
<shineworld> My usb key is an ASUSTEK USBN53 which use rt2x00 modules (I've catch then sniffing what does linux when inserted on USB)
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<mtr> android tries to load rt2x00usb, which fails because of dependendies to rt2x00lib.lo
<shineworld> so... what have you do to fix all ?
<mtr> that's what I saw scrolling by on the serial console a few minutes ago
<shineworld> I'm noob in some questions...
<shineworld> ah you haven't fixed yet
<mtr> no, module loading needs to be fixed first, there might be other issues later then...
<shineworld> when you will be able to run wifi can you write 2 lines of how-to ?
<mtr> yes, sure
<mtr> I can't continue now, have to look into this later/next days
<shineworld> you have my email-address on private chat
<shineworld> thank you
<shineworld> 85%
<StMichel> It'd be better if you posted your outcomes on the mailing list or cubieforum; I believe there are many people with the same problem
<StMichel> I noticed also that the rt2x00 modules were missing, but because I could not get a cross-compiling environment to work and didn't bother to compile kernel on cubie, I left the matter due to other hurries
<StMichel> So it would be great if you are willing to share your results commonly
<shineworld> I've compiled them and obtained the modules but there is something wrong on android and they don't run fine
<shineworld> Or I've mistake something...
<shineworld> Unfortunately I can't, at this moment, spend time to that because I've another big issue:
<shineworld> - openbox don't rotate display to portrait in any way
<shineworld> I've tried any mode : manifest, with activity code... the view remain ALWAYS in landscape
<shineworld> I wasn't able yet to find why, also watching in sources and comparing them with AOSP
<shineworld> I'm a beginner so much of matter in code is mystery...
<StMichel> Heh, same here.
<shineworld> My boss "require" that display switch to portrait but I don't know "how" to fix that
<shineworld> I guess is something on SurfaceView... but is only a "guess"
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<shineworld> mtr, 90%
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<rm> ha
<rm> a picture of my 'cubieboard case' :)
<rm> cut openings for all the connectors, then just put the "lid" (pictured to the right) on top to prevent dust -> done :)
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<buZz> hehehe nice
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<SquirrelCZECH> nah
<SquirrelCZECH> that's bad
* SquirrelCZECH can't find a way to use cubieboard + webcam for realtime video stream :-/
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<buZz> mjpegstreamer
<SquirrelCZECH> wow
<SquirrelCZECH> just know I got 30 fps
<SquirrelCZECH> with some settings :D
<buZz> ;)
<buZz> settings are awesome
<SquirrelCZECH> yes
<SquirrelCZECH> but I've got delay :-/
<user> SquirrelCZECH, write a little howto an place in on cubieboard website (note: delay in video reporduction of 1-2 sencod is normal)
<SquirrelCZECH> :-/
* SquirrelCZECH wants to get under 500ms
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<user> SquirrelCZECH is going to fail.
* SquirrelCZECH got backup plan
<user> good for SquirrelCZECH :-)
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<SquirrelCZECH> one question
<SquirrelCZECH> if cubie doesn't have enough power source... it tends to crash or lover computing power?
<buZz> crash
* SquirrelCZECH powers it with the webcam from USB-port of laptop
<SquirrelCZECH> hmm
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<SquirrelCZECH> os if I add "proper" power source, it doesn't change i thing? :-/
<SquirrelCZECH> *a thing
<krimpsok> I couldn't power the cubie and my 2.5 hdd with only the usb plug
<user> SquirrelCZECH, u can use a "Y" cable to get 500mA from 2 different usb ports.
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<buZz> USB port on a motorola lapdock happily feeds >1A :D
<user> ine simgle usb port is not enoug to power cubieboard ahd the hdd connected to te cubie
<buZz> it is if the USB port is not following spec
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<user> my laptop cant, i need to use 2 usb ports.
<SquirrelCZECH> user: in final project, everything is going to be powere from 6A power source
<SquirrelCZECH> which will power cubieboard, wifi adapter, and webcam separatedly :-)
* SquirrelCZECH is going to make tons of cables
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<SquirrelCZECH> hmm
<SquirrelCZECH> 30 fps still for one hour
<SquirrelCZECH> nothing like memory leak I suppose :D
<shineworld> if power goes low my cubie freeze and all stop
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<shineworld> SquirrelCZECH, what is your configuration ?
<SquirrelCZECH> shineworld: cubie + webcam
<SquirrelCZECH> over standart USB port
<SquirrelCZECH> 1GB cubieboard :-)
<SquirrelCZECH> (powered over standart usb port)
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<shineworld> OS ?
<SquirrelCZECH> archlinux
<shineworld> thanks !
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<lunra> the FM inputs are really -just- 24bit audio DACs right? Anyone used them?
<lunra> *ADCs
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<SquirrelCZECH> FU
* SquirrelCZECH restarted the same command and it dropped to 11 fps :-/
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<SquirrelCZECH> I DONT GET IT
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<SquirrelCZECH> restarted, and still dropped to 11 fps :-/
<shineworld> uhm... a big step from previous 30 fps
<shineworld> Actually I never tried deeply cubie with movies
<SquirrelCZECH> yes
<SquirrelCZECH> but I can't figure out why it dropped
<shineworld> I've saw youtube run very badly and I've leaved any test
<shineworld> performace settings ?
<SquirrelCZECH> I didn't change a thing
<SquirrelCZECH> that's the point why I am so suprised :D
<shineworld> try to cpu cpuperf
<SquirrelCZECH> only thing that I tried was zerolatency option for ffmpeg
<SquirrelCZECH> it dropped to 10fp
<SquirrelCZECH> fps
<lunra> The reason I ask is because FMINL and R are the only inputs broken out to connectors afaik
<SquirrelCZECH> so I removed it and now I am on 11 :-/
<lunra> yeah, definitely check your clock
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* SquirrelCZECH removed it from USB connector of different computer
<SquirrelCZECH> I know that it's not so easy to get 500mA from CP
<SquirrelCZECH> *PC
<SquirrelCZECH> 12 FPS again :-/
<SquirrelCZECH> I don't get it
<SquirrelCZECH> I really don't get it
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<shineworld> what say cpu info ?
<shineworld> have you set it for performance
<SquirrelCZECH> yes
<SquirrelCZECH> but it can't anything to set
<SquirrelCZECH> because I didn't changed a thing between steps
<shineworld> where do you get the video ? SD ? USB ?
<SquirrelCZECH> USB webcam
* SquirrelCZECH got there older class 4 sd card
<SquirrelCZECH> fuuuuu
<shineworld> I'm using a class 4 too without speed problems... ...
* SquirrelCZECH reinstalled ffmpeg
<SquirrelCZECH> and it dropped to 8 fps
<shineworld> locking at tty boot times is more fast than same in nand
<shineworld> you are fall in a nightmare :P
<SquirrelCZECH> because fuck you.... (sorry dudes)
<SquirrelCZECH> I know
<SquirrelCZECH> bud I don't get
<SquirrelCZECH> I didn't change the command
* SquirrelCZECH turns it off and waits if it cool down after he cames back .... (3 hours)
<SquirrelCZECH> if it's going to be ok -> need cooling, otherwise I don't know :-/
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<SquirrelCZECH> I dont'get it
<SquirrelCZECH> around 14:00 I've got 30 fps in streaming
<SquirrelCZECH> now it dropeed to 6fp
<SquirrelCZECH> fps
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<SquirrelCZECH> I don't get it
<SquirrelCZECH> I've got 6fps... why? why it dropped so much?
<SquirrelCZECH> cpufreq is set to maximum :-/
<wooy> SquirrelCZECH: its getting dark outside?
<SquirrelCZECH> yes
<SquirrelCZECH> but
<SquirrelCZECH> it this dropping started around 15:30 when I stopped stream
<SquirrelCZECH> tried little modification
<SquirrelCZECH> it didn't worked, so I turned on the original
<SquirrelCZECH> and it dropped to 14 fps :-/
<SquirrelCZECH> hmm
<SquirrelCZECH> cpu is on 5% ??????
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<SquirrelCZECH> hmm
<SquirrelCZECH> crond wants 93%
<SquirrelCZECH> what the hell is he doing?
<Swat-> strace it
<jelly-home> heh, I completely forgot how slow serial port io is... testing sata speed with ddrescue was slow because it refreshes the output the whole time
<SquirrelCZECH> :D
<SquirrelCZECH> hmm
<SquirrelCZECH> question is
<SquirrelCZECH> do I really need crond?
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<Euro1> where can i find the kernel sources for the debian wheezy server?
<Euro1> i want to compile kernel modules for it
<SquirrelCZECH> hoh
<SquirrelCZECH> it was the light
* SquirrelCZECH hates when something tries to be smarter than him, without telling him
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<nash_> using android, does anyone know how i might go about connection a TV in a PORTRAIT orientation?
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<FourthDr> what are we talking about?
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