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<Tomatix> I am considering buying one of these neat small computer boards. Convince me why I should get CubieBoard.
<Tomatix> ATM, I like the specs
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<dongs> Tomatix: they're all teh same.
<Tomatix> okay, well I guess I was to order cubieboard past this weekend anyways.
<dongs> i mean if all you are going to do is run lunix on a slow crappy singlecore cortex SoC, you might as well just get wahtever is cheapest and doesnt look like ass.
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<jelly-home> the "cheapest" won't necessarily run Linux well, dongs
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<lunra> Bah. Has anyone got the wifi adapters from the cubieboard shopify store to work on linux-sunxi-3.4 (non-stage)? I'm loading the module in but it just isn't detected. ID is 0bda:8179
<lunra> perhaps I have the wrong module (oops)
<lunra> aparently the 8192cu driver works?
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<lunra> lol nope, and I have to pull in code from some other repo... but at least someone else has already done the heavy lifting and documentation
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<lunra> Ugh. That code won't work with 3.4, seems the format of some structs changed between 3.0 and 3.4
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<lunra> I give up, downloading 3.0
<Undertasker> Interesting article about Linux graphics driver for ARM SOC's and the people behind them (also covers Raspi): http://blog.emmanueldeloget.com/index.php?post/2013/03/08/The-SoC-GPU-driver-interview
<mnemoc> lunra: why are you injecting a 3.0 driver in 3.4?
<mnemoc> 0bda:8179 points me to 8188eu, not 8192cu. iirc there is a driver for that in the stage-3.4 branch
<lunra> Unless I made an error, there isn't
<lunra> Moment.
<lunra> Sadly, there isn't in stage or in stable
<lunra> Unless 'that' is 8192cu, which there is :-). But yes, it's 8188cu that I should be trying to get to work. However, I did read -somewhere- where I can't find now that told me that 8192cu would work
<mnemoc> 03b061ffdc8a7190a0fc34c369f1dc5ade65f018 added rtl8188eu to 3.0
<mnemoc> but you are right, forward porting that to 3.4 is still pending
<lunra> But thanks mnemoc :)
<mnemoc> can you file a ticket for that on github?
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<lunra> I don't think I should... I mean it seems rude of me to do it. Afterall, 3.0 is kind of the recommended kernel at the moment
<lunra> I mean, I know the whole point is so that 3.4 can be used more
<mnemoc> we need to deprecate 3.0, and start integrating a31/a20 support in 3.4
<mnemoc> currently the only stopper to obsolete sunxi-3.0 is the lack of feedback about 3.4 from android people
<mnemoc> 3.0 is still recomended because it has been more tested, not because we want to keep it
<lunra> Alright, I'll make a ticket.
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<delusr_> !ls
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<delusr_> ls faq
<delusr_> [ls] faq
<delusr_> !ls faq
<delusr_> !faq
<delusr_> !explpm faq
<lunra> on github, ticket == issue, right?
<mnemoc> yes
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<Undertasker> Is there an image with a working Lima driver?
<mnemoc> hardly, specially considering there is no "working lima driver" yet
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<lunra> mnemoc, how does this sound? "In stage/sunxi-3.0/drivers/net/wireless there is a driver for rtl8188eu devices, like the USB-WiFi adapter sold on the shopify cubieboard store. If 3.0 is to be deprecated, it would be good to have this driver forward-ported or otherwise included in 3.4.". I'm very concerned about making what seems like a pushy request.
<mnemoc> reference the hash of the commit that added the driver
<lunra> ah
<lunra> Thanks
<mnemoc> and my build server now doesn't want to boot back up :(
<shineworld> I haven't afford yet question about android and mali or cedar... are supported ?
<mnemoc> allwinner only support android, so the android libs for mali and cedar are trivial to get
<mnemoc> problem is getting newer/better linux blobs
<shineworld> ah, so I I'm living in openbox that should be supported by them :)
<ssvb> mnemoc: was it you who registered linux-sunxi mailing list at http://gmane.org/faq.php ?
<mnemoc> ssvb: no, i wasn't
<mnemoc> it would be awesome if someone with a not gmail-ized account could submit a complete mbox archive there
<ssvb> ok, but it is really convenient for referencing to old posts (much better than google groups)
<ssvb> it would be nice to have the same for cubieboard mailing list
<mnemoc> i was going to move the wiki and setup mailman on a newer server in hetzner and the damn server just decided to die :(
<lunra> http://paste.ee/p/KXQit any clue what I've done wrong?
<mnemoc> can't even get the rescue system
<lunra> (I'm using Roman's config, in case I'm including something that is broken now but wasn't before)
<mnemoc> lunra: roman = rm
<lunra> I know
<lunra> I didn't want to risk highlighting him, which has the potential of waking him up
<mnemoc> i see
<rm> hello
<rm> and with a different config it does compile properly?
<lunra> rm: Nope, mnemoc asked me to check that. I should have tested that earlier, sorry
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<wooy> heh, debian armhf is so clean it does not even have apt-get
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<rm> mine has
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<thib> !ls
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<shineworld> solved problem with rotation (landscape / portrait ) in openbox
<shineworld> yeah
<user_2> rm, are you in?
<rm> yes
<user_2> can go in Private?
<rm> well you went anyway
<rm> not waiting for a yes/no
<user_2> sorry
<user_2> u prefere public?
<rm> I'd say just ask whatever you want right here
<user_2> i can say here.
<rm> it's not like we're going to discuss some secret stuff
<user_2> i want to report you about you image, i just download, install etc.
<user_2> i follow all the steps (create uSD with bzip2, dd the 2 little file, ) , then i set up static ip addrest editih /etc/network/interfaces on second partition.
<user_2> at it respond to ping .-)
<user_2> im happy to report you it works :-)
<rm> great :)
<user_2> oh.. it does not i was pinging myself :-(
<user_2> i am x.x.x.100, on my laptop. i set eth0 = x.x.x.110 and eth1 = x.x.x120 on cubiebaord
<user_2> im using a crosscable, the cable works on different pc, so cable is ok.
<user_2> i corss cb and laptop. cb has red led on
<user_2> nic plug has green and orange led on.
<user_2> but not reply to ping i send from laptop
<rm> are you using two NICs on the CB?
<user_2> no, i use integrated nic. i set eth1 adn eth0 static addres just for security.
<rm> configure eth0 only
<user_2> in both case, i get "destinatio host unreachable"
<rm> comment out eth1
<user_2> i ani case, it should answer to ping also if eth1 doe not exist, right?
<rm> maybe
<rm> so maybe something else is wrong
<rm> pastebin the whole 'interfaces' file
<user_2> ok, give me 5 min to reconfigure eth1 as comment out.
<user_2> ok wait.
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<user_2> rm, i did wrong broadcast address :-( let me fix and try again.
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<user_2> rm, here the data http://pastebin.com/pbPS8Eda
<user_2> i correct the broadcast ad replace in cb, but no ping replay the same
<rm> yeah looks okay
<rm> try removing eth1
<user_2> ok.
<user_2> if it can hepls, here the cfdisk of uSD http://pastebin.com/qx44PV8L
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<user_2> rm, btw, i used cubieboard_hwpack.tar.xz cos my cb is 1GRam
<user_2> now i restarted it, i wait 3 min
<user_2> rm, no ping reply from cb :-(
<user_2> i wonder where is the problem.
<mnemoc> the random mac address usually brings troubles
<user_2> any suggestions?
<mnemoc> plug the uart/usb and see
<user_2> mnemoc, Im usung uSD with "server image made by rm, i duno it has uart output. i will try original os on flash.
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<user_2> mnemoc, i get this message in minicom:
<user_2> HELLO! BOOT0 is starting!
<user_2> boot0 version : 1.5.0
<user_2> initializing SDRAM Fail.
<mnemoc> o_O
<user_2> bad message, i think :-(
<[7]> where do I get the latest kernel for ubuntu 13.04 on the cubie?
<mnemoc> user_2: there is a good part. it's not even trying to boot form your uSD card
<mnemoc> user_2: boot0 is the bootoader on nand
<wooy> [7]: linux-sunxi @ github
<[7]> is that 3.0.57-custom1+ one that I'm currently running still the most recent one, or is there a newer one?
<[7]> ideally a pre-compiled one?
<user_2> mnemoc, ok, but afther that no othe message came out
<wooy> i read that 3.4 is also pretty stable / I could be wrong.
<user_2> mnemoc, minicom is blocket on that line, no other messace seems yto arrive from cubie
<mnemoc> it is. but there is no enough feedback from android people to obsolete sunxi-3.0 yet
<mnemoc> user_2: probably it's hung there.
<mnemoc> user_2: reflashing it might be a good idea
<user_2> reflashin.... ok
<[7]> is there a precompiled uImage and modules package for sunxi-3.4?
<mnemoc> but that is unrelated to the fact that your cb is ignoring the uSD card
<user_2> i lost link, mnemoc, can you be so nice guy to point me out the webpage with reflashinh instructions?
<mnemoc> [7]: rm might have
<mnemoc> user_2: i would need to google for it, just like your should ;-)
<user_2> ok, i will do by my own, thank the same :-)
<[7]> mnemoc: but 3.0.57 is still supposed to work properly with 13.04 userspace?
<mnemoc> i suppose ubuntu 13.04 will work on linux 3.0, yes
<[7]> rm: so 3.4.29-20130418.1754-s-rm3+ is what you'd recommend?
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<rm> I don't know enough about what exactly you need, to make any recommendations
<rm> you asked for a latest pre-compiled kernel with modules
<rm> I gave you a link to what you asked for
<[7]> well, I mean the recommended one within your set of server kernel images
<[7]> anyway, thanks for the information :)
<[7]> i've installed 3.4.29-20130418.1754-s-rm3+ now
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<user_2> i see there is LiveSuite to flash the CB, but i dont see frome where to donwload the images :-/
<user_2> thanks!
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<user_2> mnemoc, i see the page, but apparently ther are only android buildroot and cyanoged images... what i have to choose? im looking for a simple image that allow me uart/usb connection, just to check if hardware is dead or alive.
<mnemoc> iirc the recommended image is an android opentv something
<user_2> ok. i will try it
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<user_2> mnemoc, anyway i think this: if message say "initialing SDRAM fail" i seems to be a hardware failure: in that case, reflash the board i dont know what vantage will give to it... but i will do in any case.
<shineworld> openbox for example
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<user_2> i take this cubiebox_tvbox_rel2.2.img to be flashed on .
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<mnemoc> user_2: if you get the same error after refashing your cb with that image, you have a defective unit
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<user_2> mnemoc, yes... :-( i will reflash and then report results here.
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<shineworld> user_2, what is your issue ? I've just cleaned my log on xchat
<mnemoc> shineworld: his CB dies on boot0
<shineworld> uh....
<shineworld> and he's able to boot from uSD ?
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<shineworld> I don't understand why YouTube app don't works fine in cubieboard
<shineworld> adb report: E/AndroidRuntime( 1661): java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.google.protobuf.CodedOutputStream.a
<shineworld> but in framework/... there is the CodeOutputStream class
<shineworld> ... that there isn't present in AOSP 4.0.4-r1 ...
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<shineworld> the CodeOutputStream is heavily used by openbox
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<shineworld> also YouTube on Chrome doesn't work (this time isn't an app obviously)
<user_2> im using livesuite under windows to flash the cubieboard, but i gel always "not found device". I instlled drivers, and pc do @bing@ sound when i plug in cb. i seled the ilage, plug the cubie, press on sysupdate, then i get that message error.
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<user_2> maybe have I to press the little button under OTC usb port_ if yes, when_
<shineworld> connect cubie only with otg cable (don't use power cable)
<user_2> shineworld, yes, i unse usb cable and no more, it connet ppc to cubie in little usb port, otg.
<user_2> when i pl;ug it, red led on cb turn on,, and pc beeps.
<shineworld> I never used PC version ...
<shineworld> windows I mean
<user_2> shineworld, this i have, this i use. i see linux version still on prgress.... what do you use to flash cubieboard?
<user_2> i have also linuxbox, i can use it
<shineworld> is a Virtual Machine ?
<user_2> no, both win and lin are 2 separate real pc
<user_2> win XP 32 bit, debian 6.0 64bit
<shineworld> is Linux a 64 bit ?
<user_2> yes
<shineworld> ok you can use LiveSuit on linux
<shineworld> worked for me
<user_2> ok.. link_
<user_2> ?
<shineworld> a sec I'm watching bash_history
<user_2> ok
<shineworld> look at end
<user_2> ok
<user_2> uh, no andreoid, i want real linuxm, not andreoid
<shineworld> Uh, at end of http://linux-sunxi.org/Android there is info about LiveSuit on linux
<shineworld> *there are
<shineworld> user_2 are you italina ?
<user_2> si :-)
<shineworld> move to private chat
<user_2> yrd
<user_2> yes
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<Undertasker> Hey, my ADS-B antenna is really good in the fm band.
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<wooy> Undertasker: surfing on the radio waves?
<Undertasker> Yeah, but sorry, wrong chan
<Undertasker> But it works on A10, too
<user_2> the helll!!! livesuit present here http://linux-sunxi.org/Android sai it is not compatible with debian!!! WTF?!?!??!
<Undertasker> That's why you never should use closed source crap
<federico3> yep
<user_2> Undertasker, so what i hav to use?
<Undertasker> Closed source rap, because there are no open source tools. You bought the wrong hardware
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<user_2> Undertasker, i need to flash cubieboard. If you have suggestion, u are wellcome. if you can only regret me, you can hold your words, thanks,
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<Undertasker> Well, use windows. I don't like that either, but the windows versions work
<Undertasker> It's rather unpleasant having to use windows to flash linux, but, well...
<user_2> Undertasker, unfortunately, livesuite doent work on my own. i start tu suspect cb hardware fault, cos at start i teceive on my usart console message i:initializing sdram fail":
<user_2> so, i moe to linux version to try also it, but i fallen in that crap advive that debian is unsupported
<user_2> they support deviant distro as ubuntu but not the original one as debvian is... jesus, what crazy people out there
<Undertasker> What does happen if you boot from sd?
<user_2> Undertasker, i have not hdmi monitor (on the go to buy, anyway) so in cant see video output.
<user_2> u see im in bad situation.
<Undertasker> Can you ssh into after sd boot?
<Undertasker> BTW, you don't need hdmi, it also works with a hdmi to vga converter
<user_2> no, i cant. i used the 'server' image developer by rm... no, it DOES NOT work with converter, already tryed. stupid cubieboard video driver need 70 or 1080 hdmi, (see cubie FAQ)
<Undertasker> Also, if you have a router, cb should get an ip address from it
<Undertasker> You should see it on your routers html page
<Undertasker> My vga converter works perfectly with cb. Android and Linux.
<user_2> look, i flashjed 2GB uSD withserver version, mount 2nd partition, modified with fixed ip /etc/networ/interfaces file save, preplug and boot... mbut it doen not ping (i plug crossed eternet cabel to my pc)
<Undertasker> Then it's not easy to tell
<Undertasker> maybe using an image that does switch on the cb's LED
<Undertasker> What VGA converter do you have?
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