04:44 <proteusguy> Our channel has been silent for a while.... everyone decided to take up javascript development instead? ;-)

06:13 <jedb> proteusguy: nah, I hate javascript, I just haven't gotten around to teaching myself Forth yet, nor have I gotten around to starting the project I want to use Forth for

06:20 <proteusguy> jedb, just because you're not yet using forth doesn't mean you can't go on about it for days here. :-) What's the project you have in mind?

06:21 <jedb> a small compiler and interpreter for another language

06:21 <proteusguy> sounds very secretive...

06:22 <jedb> I want to use Forth partly because it's an exceedingly portable language, and partly because I haven't had the occasion to program in that style before

06:22 <jedb> nothing secretive about it, it's just going to be quite a while before I get around to it

06:22 <proteusguy> what's the target platform & language?

06:23 <jedb> the language to be compiled/interpreted will be Ada, and the platform to compile to will probably just be x86 and x64

06:24 <proteusguy> wow Ada's a rather large language. What's the reason you don't want to use a native compiler?

06:24 <jedb> the emphasis is going to be on making a repl interpreter, the compiler part is more of an afterthought

06:24 <proteusguy> cool - that makes sense.

06:25 <jedb> there's only one compiler for Ada that's available without forking out lots of monies at the moment, which is a bit of a problem

06:25 <jedb> well, technically there's a few more, but only for Ada95 which is rather outdated

06:26 <proteusguy> Ah I haven't paid attention to Ada since the late 80s. :-)

06:26 <jedb> that's definitely a while ago :P

06:27 <jedb> by native compiler, you mean a self hosting one?

06:28 <proteusguy> not necessarily - just an existing compiler that is written for a particular target language/platform.

06:28 <proteusguy> but I get what you're talking aout.

06:28 <proteusguy> about

06:29 <jedb> ah, well yeah, as I said the reason to not use an existing compiler is the monoculture issue

06:30 <proteusguy> well having a repl/interpreter is an obvious big difference. we're doing the same for targeting smart contracts because their VMs work in a manner that precludes a repl in production. But we've hacked some stuff together to support a repl for dev/test.

06:32 <jedb> the interpreter angle also ties back into why I want to use Forth for it, since that would immediately enable its use on any platform that has Forth, which I understand is quite a few

13:26 <MrMobius> has anyone seen tp lately?

14:54 <cmtptr> no, the shelves have been empty since march

15:12 <MrMobius> he might be angry when he finds out you called him that

15:24 <cmtptr> look i didn't choose his nick

21:12 <pointfree> 10:34:24 AM <WilhelmVonWeiner> pointfree: have you considered banning wengchunkn from r/Forth

21:12 <pointfree> Just banned him.

21:12 <pointfree> 10:34:33 AM <WilhelmVonWeiner> everything he posts is unrelated garbage

22:01 <Zarutian_HTC> after having read the Koopman book and looked at excamera J1 and various other ISA guides/docu I still have not found other archs that enable near instant alu ops

22:03 <Zarutian_HTC> having tos in a register and nos and rest in hardware stack makes it so easy to paralellize all the possible alu ops while instruction fetch and much of decode is happening

22:04 <Zarutian_HTC> and then at last stages of decode it just selects the apropos output based on the opcode

22:18 <Zarutian_HTC> well maybe the Mill