<azonenberg> Yes, it's me and a bottle of ethanol
<azonenberg> No, it's not what you think
<kristianpaul> azonenberg: that they you tought, i will make that awesome Homebrew CMOS for 2011 ;-)
<azonenberg> Lol
<azonenberg> Like the pic? I wanted to do something involving me and ethanol
<azonenberg> while also poking fun at the people who get hammered at a bar on their 21st
<azonenberg> using it for cleaning wafers was the best option i could come up with
<kristianpaul> nice pic yes
<azonenberg> idk if you guys have seen my lab lately actualy... have to take some more photos
<azonenberg> it's been upgraded quite a bit, several new pieces of gear have arrived recently
<kristianpaul> new scope?
<kristianpaul> microscope***
<kristianpaul> btw you'were digging CPLDs right? or whas that a plan?
<azonenberg> kristianpaul: oscilloscope, plus upgrades to the probing station
<azonenberg> and other stuff
<azonenberg> and i'm doing CPLD and FPGA work now, yes
<azonenberg> Fab work is going to resume early next week with a Cu evaporation run over Cr
<kristianpaul> he, yes sorry my no native language typos..
<azonenberg> on both sides of a <110> double-side-polished wafer coated in tantalum oxide
<kristianpaul> oh, FPGA too, wich vendor?
<azonenberg> xilinx
<azonenberg> for both
<kristianpaul> btw i definetelly think i will not bought that USRP a microscope seens better invesment
<kristianpaul> and all this stuff is yours or just during PHd?
<kristianpaul> PhD**
<kristianpaul> i mean fore a example a "poor" guy that later to reproduce your work, will need... 1. 400X metallurgical microscope, 2... 3..
<kristianpaul> i know is not complete the list yet. just wonder how mcuh will cost you current lab setup :-)
<kristianpaul> ah nv, i found my answer http://intruded.net:8080/siliconpr0n/doku.php?id=equipment:start
<azonenberg> lol
<azonenberg> i know the guy who runs that site
<azonenberg> we were roommates last year
<azonenberg> (not all of intruded, just siliconpr0n)
<kristianpaul> so you thin is worth to have a microscope at first?
<kristianpaul> that 400x metallurgical
<reportingsjr> azonenberg: did you etch nyan cat? hahahahaha
<azonenberg> reportingsjr: A long time ago
<kristianpaul> ;-)
<azonenberg> yes
<azonenberg> kristianpaul: for fab or RE?
<reportingsjr> azonenberg: just reading latest lab notes now
<azonenberg> For fab it's critical
<kristianpaul> fab
<reportingsjr> azonenberg: do you have pics?
<azonenberg> i use it for all of my lithography as well as die inspection after processing
<azonenberg> reportingsjr: yes, sec
<kristianpaul> reportingsjr: next will be animated MEMS version of nyan cat ;-D
<reportingsjr> kristianpaul: :P
<reportingsjr> that's hilarious
<azonenberg> reportingsjr: nyanotechnology
<reportingsjr> what size?
<reportingsjr> hahahahahaha
<kristianpaul> azonenberg: btw this last pic very clean
<azonenberg> Probably a ~2mm overall
<azonenberg> with 20um comb drives to move the feet
<reportingsjr> haha
<azonenberg> and different thicknesses of SiO2 for the rainbow
<azonenberg> kristianpaul: ty
<azonenberg> This is 200nm evaporated copper over Si patterend by wet etch in dilute HCl : H2O2
<azonenberg> Still having adhesion problems
<azonenberg> going to try putting 5nm or so of Cr under the Cu next run
<azonenberg> probably next week
<kristianpaul> you have a  micromanipulator right? wih one if?
<azonenberg> micromanipulator brand probing station (forget exact model) with a B&L stereozoom microscope (plus some additional upgrades for eyepieces etc to boost magnification)
<azonenberg> and three micropositioners
<azonenberg> two of one type and one of the other
<azonenberg> 110 and 210 are left and right handed
<azonenberg> i forget which is which
<azonenberg> they're otherwise identical
<azonenberg> and good down to ~5um targets (bottom-of-the-line units i got cheap)
<azonenberg> 5um is still good enough to hit anything my process can make though :)
<reportingsjr> azonenberg: how long until you get a working comb drive ya think?
<azonenberg> reportingsjr: Hoping for soon
<azonenberg> 1-2 motnhs i hope to have 2.5D (separate top and bottom etches meeting in the middle of the wafer) patterning working
<azonenberg> then i have to figure out how to insulate the metal from shorting against the body
<azonenberg> and adjust the geometry to get something that works
<azonenberg> end of year is a relatively realistic estimate
<azonenberg> optimistically, oct-nov
<bart416> lol, this guy is worried about settings on a dental xray :|
<bart416> azonenberg, ever had the joy of seeing the control system of a full body xray scanner?
<azonenberg> lol i would imagine its long
<azonenberg> and complex
<azonenberg> at least if the controls for a SEM are any hint
<bart416> the easy settings are acceleration and exposure time
<bart416> Then the fun settings come in
<bart416> radiation distribution, positioning, bursts, ...
<bart416> And if you really want you can even enter a curve
<bart416> and path
<azonenberg> nice
<XgF> wonders how much you would have to mess them up before it would kill somebody
<azonenberg> Immediately?
<bart416> Software calculates dose
<azonenberg> Or just 1E4 increase the risk of cancer
<bart416> It's impossible to exceed a set limit
<XgF> Good, so it's complex but has builtin safety :p
<azonenberg> Acute radiation poisioning requires huge doeses
<XgF> Hasn't stopped it from happening...
<azonenberg> Yeah
<azonenberg> My point is, a slight malfunction is far more likely to result in you getting cancer in 10 years
<bart416> You can't even approach the dose of a CT scanner on a regular xray machine
<bart416> + there is also a hardware safety
<bart416> a hard limiting circuit you can't bypass without pretty much disassembling the entire machine
<bart416> at least in most there is
<XgF> suspects that the branch of physics he's interested in is more likely to have an effect on his health :p
<bart416> XgF, please tell me you're not into nuclear physics?
<XgF> ...and even then a trivial effect
<XgF> Bingo :p
<bart416> I had to quit that...
<XgF> Around the time I get my degree, ITER will be coming online... which would probably be good timing for any postgrad research
<bart416> ITER would be fairly safe...
<XgF> Indeed
<bart416> Where do you live XgF ?
<XgF> UK
<bart416> Might be hard to get into ITER considering how much frenchies are about :(
<bart416> Medical imaging is safer...
<bart416> You can sit in your nice leaded glass cage
<XgF> Medical imaging involves Biology... I hate biology
<bart416> It's fun
<bart416> At least, the technical part is
<XgF> Generally, I find that as you strart with Maths and move upwards through the sciences, I end up liking them less and less as they become less derivable
<bart416> I'll agree on that if you're talking about MRIs
<XgF> But hell... I have no clue where I'll be in 3 years. For all I know I could decide to take advantage of the skills I've gained from my side job and become a freelance lighting engineer...
<bart416> I just take every opertunity I get