<swkhan> hello
<swkhan> what has an i-v curve like this
<berndj> where are you seeing that?
<swkhan> i deposited platinum on soda lime glass and what i think is zinc oxide on top of the platinum
<swkhan> i then probed the top of the zinc oxide and the platinum electrode below the zinc oxide and got that i-v curve
<swkhan> but the current is so miniscule...
<CIA-67> homecmos r119 | trunk/lithography-tests/labnotes/azonenberg_labnotes.txt | Today's lab notes
<azonenberg> Just finished some more extensive resolution testing work
<azonenberg> 20 micron process is getting extremely good yields now on small dies
<azonenberg> But 5um is still proving to be beyond my reach
<wolfspraul> azonenberg: hey, this may be slightly off-topic or off-interest to you, but let me just paste the url in a good faith effort to connect similar minded people :-)
<azonenberg> Will check it out
<wolfspraul> Geoffrey Barrows published a nice 3-part series on chip fabrication
<azonenberg> on a different note, http://i.imgur.com/a1NgR.jpg
<azonenberg> 800x
<azonenberg> 20um line/space nominal dimension
<wolfspraul> complements your amazing project, imho
<azonenberg> yeah, looks nice
<wolfspraul> he's going through the tools, costs, considerations, etc.
<azonenberg> yeah
<berndj> azonenberg, those lines look nice and clean; are those 20µm lines?
<azonenberg> Yes
<azonenberg> Nominally, at least
<azonenberg> exact dimension may be off by a few %
<azonenberg> i havent measured with my calibrated camera yet
<azonenberg> the point-and-shoot is used for in-process imaging as its easier to set up
<berndj> but also, i can see how 5µm is giving trouble
<azonenberg> Yeah
<azonenberg> I plan to keep pushing just to try, but all of my short-term projects will use 20
<berndj> do those lines act as a diffraction grating?
<berndj> i mean, that you can see it
<azonenberg> My guess is, in the IR it probably would
<azonenberg> but in visible, not sure
<azonenberg> I havent etched the underlying silicon yet either
<azonenberg> The goal was to use the copper pattern as a hardmask for KOH etch
<azonenberg> and do 20um trenches
<azonenberg> But i have a lecture to give tomorrow for the crypto class i'm TAing for (prof is at a conference) and I need to spend some time going over the notes lol
<azonenberg> In any case, these results are very encouraging as far as the 20um process is concerned
<azonenberg> I have a few bugs to iron out but the comb drive is looking quite feasible
<azonenberg> imagine this pattern etched vertically into <110> Si
<azonenberg> through the wafer
<azonenberg> then half connected to each side...
<azonenberg> It might require tiling a few exposures at the current FOV of my system but at 5 mins per exposure i can handle doing four or five
<bart416> lol, I think I need to go and see a doctor :|
<bart416> My resting heart rate is now officially under 50 bpm, lol
<bart416> I've either been listening to too much bob marley, been doing too much sports or have a heart defect
<azonenberg> lol
<B0101> Hi
<bart416> azonenberg, 47 bpm while laying down
<bart416> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
<azonenberg> o_O
<bart416> lol
<bart416> Nah, it's fairly normal for me I think
<bart416> I often run for 1-2 hours a day...
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<bart416> azonenberg, any suggestion on how to protect the photoresist from binding to the metal ions?
<bart416> Cause by all means I'll be attacking it chemically when I attack the acrylic
<azonenberg> bart416: explain what you are trying to do again
<azonenberg> I know the theory, but give me a process outline
<azonenberg> what substances you apply to what parts of the sample in what order
<bart416> I'm still trying to figure out the substances
<azonenberg> In other news i have a time slot reserved on the SEM next tuesday morning at 10 am my time
<azonenberg> to do cross section and low-angle imaging of 20um features for measuring etch profiles
<bart416> azonenberg, are you familiar with basic organic chemistry?
<azonenberg> Um, no :p
<azonenberg> not even close
<azonenberg> i know very little chem and even less ochem lol
<berndj> 47bpm? maybe you should become an astronaut
<bart416> berndj, why is that?
<bart416> 47 bpm is either too low or athlete's heart from what I know
<berndj> oh? i didn't know that counted as "too low"
<bart416> Under 50 is considered dangerous generally
<bart416> Mind you, there have been people who had 30 bpm while being perfectly healthy
<berndj> is athlete's heart the name of some heart disease?
<bart416> it's a condition
<bart416> not so much a disease
<berndj> but if you run 1-2 hours every day i wouldn't be too surprised about a super low heart rate
<bart416> But I also have an infection on my chest due to an accident last week heh
<bart416> So it might be that I'm feeling somewhat weird due to that lol
<azonenberg> i see
<azonenberg> Anyway so I am hoping to have pics of <110> dies with etched features in them by this time next week :)
<bart416> It doesn't look that bad on pictures weirdly enough :S http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2915/imag0520p.jpg
<bart416> And that's the most creepy picture I've ever uploaded I think
<azonenberg> what is it?
<bart416> the infected wound
<azonenberg> from what i mean
<bart416> Dunno
<bart416> Just suddenly had that wound
<bart416> I do loads of things that can lead to this
<azonenberg> lol i see
<azonenberg> Its just that usually when i get injured i have some idea of how it happened
<bart416> I've worked in construction for a while during the summers to earn some extra money
<bart416> You stop noticing injuries after a while
<azonenberg> i see
<azonenberg> i've done my share of manual labor and construction (plumbing, drywall, light framing of non-load-bearing walls) but nothing i'd call heavy construction
<bart416> I've taken down buildings, industrial cleaning, etc...
<azonenberg> i see
<bart416> I think I know from what it is though
<bart416> chemical burn