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<ion>
.ask jbenet I wonder what it would take for Google to invite you to have a Tech Talk?
<multivac>
ion: I'll pass that on when jbenet is around.
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<kyledrake>
ion emailing them.
<kyledrake>
They would love to hear this talk
<fingertoe>
me too!
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<kyledrake>
ion jbenet I just pinged their youtube channel with a message, hopefully they get back. Didn't find any other ways to contact them.
<ion>
kyledrake: He’ll be on IRC sooner or later and receive the message from multivac.
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<ion>
Oh, sorry
<ion>
I totally misparsed what you said.
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<whyrusleeping>
i wish ops could rename people in chat
<whyrusleeping>
/rename jbenet jbeiber
<ion>
Yes, we are fans of Juan Bieber.
<mue>
beiber!
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<codehero>
lol
<whyrusleeping>
does anyone need anything from me?
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<davidar>
whyrusleeping: brains...
<whyrusleeping>
davidar: heh
<whyrusleeping>
look elsewhere, none left here
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<smash_>
When trying to ipfs mount on mac I get this error: ERRO[01:20:18:000] error mounting: exit status 64: mount_osxfusefs: /ipfs: No such file or directory exit status 64: mount_osxfusefs: /ipns: No such file or directory module=core/commands
<haadcode>
Re-posting this from yesterday. I've been working on a prototype app built on top of ipfs. IRC-like chat on ipfs, if you will. I have a desktop app that can be tested and I was hoping I'd find someone here willing to give it a go. If you have couple of minutes, try it out and let me know your thoughts! Any feedback, problems and ideas are highly appreciated. You can download it from: http://178.62.50.137/. OSX and Linux only atm. I got a request for the sourc
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<norn>
hi, I put file on the ipfs, then get it through https://ipfs.io/ipfs/, then rm -rf ~/.ipfs
<norn>
what I expect is ipfs get should return from cached version, but it returns ipfs get returns "Error: merkledag: not found"
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<norn>
however web version is still available. why is it so?
* davidar
waits for the end of haadcode's last sentence
<davidar>
norn: did you `ipfs init` again after rm'ing?
<norn>
davidar, right
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<norn>
davidar, is it breaks things?
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<davidar>
norn: ipfs init creates ~/.ipfs, so if you deleted it, you'll have to run it again to avoid getting an error
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<davidar>
haadcode: you just going to leave me hanging mid-sentence? ;)
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<norn>
davidar, forgot to run the daemon, errghh, thanks everything works as expected now!
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<norn>
davidar, does this file will live forever? are there any timeouts?
<davidar>
norn: the gateways will garbage collect periodically
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<davidar>
so, it will live as long as someone has a copy
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<davidar>
and pinning prevents gc
<haadcode>
davidar: what? :)
<haadcode>
it ends with "Thanks." :)
<davidar>
haadcode (IRC): I only got up to "... I got a request for the sourc"
<haadcode>
oh
<haadcode>
"...I got a request for the source yesterday and while the code is not publicly available, if you look closely, you'll find the source in the package. Thanks.
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<victorbjelkholm>
haadcode, yeah, since it's a electron app (or node-webkit), the source is already there, is just missing a git repo somewhere public so people can see stuff easier :)
<davidar>
tbh, running code downloaded from a random ip addr makes me a little uneasy
<haadcode>
davidar: fair enough. this was the feedback yesterday, too.
<victorbjelkholm>
haadcode, looks very cool! Would love to try it! Don't be afraid of showing the code behind it
<victorbjelkholm>
haadcode, it has no backend supporting it?
<haadcode>
victorbjelkholm: not ready to push the code to publis yet, sorry. if there's anything I can do to help you to overcome the threshold of running the app, let me know :)
<victorbjelkholm>
haadcode, sure, but you won't like the answer ;)
<haadcode>
victorbjelkholm: right now it has a server that handles nicknames (so there's only one with that name) and it tracks the head hash of each channel but everything else is in ipfs (ie. files, messages). while I see a use case for server-based authentication/access control, my hope is that once ipns and keystore are implemented in ipfs, I can make it fully p2p.
<haadcode>
victorbjelkholm: besides releasing the code? :)
<victorbjelkholm>
haadcode, ah, I see. The way I dealt with nicknames in a quick twitter prototype was to have one file that is shared between all clients and locks the username to an id, on a first-come-first-served basis and then all the clients sync that file with each other
<victorbjelkholm>
no, releasing the code is the only way :) Especially since your code is already readable by everyone, I don't see why not
<haadcode>
victorbjelkholm: re. nicks, I see. I did something similar but on individual basis (ie. one user == one file)
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<davidar>
haadcode: looks cool, +1 to releasing the code :)
<davidar>
or at least, making it a webapp so I can sandbox it
<haadcode>
davidar: I've been following the discussion closely but tbh I don't quite understand the internals of ipfs so it's for me to participate in the conv. what I have in mind with that prototype, and that's kinda how it works now (minus signing), is to use bittorrent BEP44 for the messages. as mentioned, looking forward to see how ipns, keystore and pub/sub progresses in order to use ipfs fully for the messaging.
<haadcode>
+hard
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<davidar>
haadcode (IRC): what does mainline dht provide that ipfs doesn't currently?
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<gamemanj>
What happens if an earlier version of IPFS reads a later version's config...? Specifically: The version Station downloads, vs. the latest version (0.3.9-dev)?
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<gamemanj>
Ok, found out the version Station downloaded, it's ipfs 0.3.7.
<gamemanj>
So: Can IPFS version 0.3.7 read 0.3.9-dev's configs, or would they be considered invalid?
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<davidar>
gamemanj (IRC): just the config, or the whole .ipfs dir?
<gamemanj>
The whole dir, but the point is: would it read the config?
<gamemanj>
And if not, would ipfs init not require -f?
<davidar>
gamemanj: i wouldn't rely on it, no
<davidar>
it might
<davidar>
but i know there's going to be backwards-incompatible changes soon
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looks in the config file backup, and notices he forgot a comma
<gamemanj>
Well, that explains that problem, so it's a matter of if it should overwrite "corrupted" configs (that may still have recoverable keypairs)...
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<davidar>
gamemanj (IRC): I'm not exactly sure what you're asking?
<gamemanj>
I'm trying to figure out something, a sec... Aha. Seems I got mixed up about which config was which and assumed that I was using the config with the missing comma last night.
<gamemanj>
Turns out though, if that had been the case, Station would've errored upon startup - it seems it reads the config.
<victorbjelkholm>
anyone knows what https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-update brings that "go get -u" doesn't? Is ipfs-update gonna include a migration tool for configs and datastorage?
<davidar>
VictorBjelkholm (IRC): ipfs-update fetches updates over ipfs ;)
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<victorbjelkholm>
ooh, fancy!
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, you've tried it?
<davidar>
no, but they've been talking about it for a while
<gamemanj>
Seems I managed to forget to move my .ipfs-bk folder back to .ipfs, so ofc it inited. *headdesks* So my problem was between the keyboard and the chair. OTOH, I can't actually use this backup with IPFS-Station, because IPFS-Station uses an older version of IPFS than the config was for.
<davidar>
I believe it will be integrated into go-ipfs soon
<davidar>
gamemanj (IRC): yeah, I hate it when that happens :)
<davidar>
same reason it took me so long to get cjdns running
<gamemanj>
At least keypairs are (presumably) portable...
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, you got cdnjs to run over ipfs?
<davidar>
VictorBjelkholm (IRC): haha, no, just failed at config files :p
<davidar>
ipfs can run over cjdns though
<victorbjelkholm>
yeah, was thinking about that in the shower yesterday and wanted to try it out. cdnjs is too big for my harddrive to even develop with though :(
<davidar>
um, are we talking about the same thing?
<davidar>
.w cjdns
<multivac>
[WIKIPEDIA] Cjdns | "Cjdns is a networking protocol, a system of digital rules for message exchange between computers. The philosophy behind cjdns is that networks should be easy to set up, protocols should scale up smoothly and security should be ubiquitous.Cjdns implements an encrypted IPv6 network using public key cryptography..." | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cjdns
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, no, you're talking about cjdns, I'm missread and thought you were talking about cdnjs https://github.com/cdnjs/cdnjs
<victorbjelkholm>
:)
<davidar>
haha, don't you love acronyms
<davidar>
zignig: if you say initialisms again, I'll hit you :p
<victorbjelkholm>
speaking about cdnjs and large git repos. Anyone have any tips for dealing with them? I know about --depth=1 but looking for some more tips
<davidar>
how large are we talking?
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, 4.2GB
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<victorbjelkholm>
another quick question, is there a easy way to sync to ipfs daemons to pin each others files?
<davidar>
VictorBjelkholm (IRC): that's not that big
<davidar>
VictorBjelkholm (IRC): did you want to get cdnjs hosted on ipfs?
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, yes! That is my thought
<victorbjelkholm>
I've taken a look at the code and think it would be fairly simple but just cloning and managing the repo takes forever...
<davidar>
submit an issue to ipfs/archives, I can put it on one of the storage nodes
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, ah, cool. Still would need to run it locally to be able to develop but I'll do that. Thanks
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<davidar>
VictorBjelkholm (IRC): develop as in push changes to cdnjs, or just use it for other stuff?
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, well, cdnjs is currently deployed on cloudflare infrastructure and deployed there as well. What I would like to do is develop a POC that cdnjs can also serve stuff via IPFS and try submit it upstream. Would be great to get Cloudflare to try out some IPFS stuff :)
<davidar>
yeah, they should really split that ajax/libs dir into submodules :/
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<davidar>
VictorBjelkholm (IRC): you could try using the ipfs fusemount, not sure how well that would work?
<davidar>
ooh, cdnjs has mathjax too
<davidar>
yeah, this is definitely going on ipfs :)
<davidar>
might take a while to add though :/
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<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, yeah, I'll try it and see what happens
<victorbjelkholm>
probably gonna break something but that's good, more issues in github for you to work on ;) haha
<davidar>
ipfs add is giving me an eta of 1h, but it's a filthy liar :p
<davidar>
victorbjelkholm: s/you/whyrusleeping/
<multivac>
davidar thinks victorbjelkholm meant to say: probably gonna break something but that's good, more issues in github for whyrusleeping to work on ;) haha
<victorbjelkholm>
"you" as in all the people working go-ipfs :)
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, you're running that command on cdnjs? Might be faster with a good internet connection, no?
<davidar>
so, not me then :p
<davidar>
VictorBjelkholm (IRC): i'm running it on one of the storage node, which have pretty good internet connections
<victorbjelkholm>
well, I'll have to try it once I finish working with stuff that gets me food on the table. See you later!
<davidar>
bye
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<davidar>
the bottleneck isn't bandwidth, it's ipfs being really slow at reading files from the disk
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<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, ah, of course, since the files are not sent anywhere until someone requests them, right?
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<victorbjelkholm>
hm, when accessing the webui, I get a bunch of 403 forbidden errors. Anyone seen this before?
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: just released karma@0.13.12 with the concurrency option :)
<slothbag>
If anyone tried Airlock yesterday, you may have noticed OSX and win64 builds were broken. I've fixed them and added a UI screenshot for those that are interested.. https://github.com/slothbag/Airlock
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<victorbjelkholm>
So I can use the public gateway to read files from IPFS, could I use it to upload files as well?
<ion>
Not yet, but IIRC someone said it’s planned.
<victorbjelkholm>
oh, awesome! Once that's done (or node-ipfs, seems further away though) is gonna be awesome building client-side only applications
<davidar>
victorbjelkholm (IRC): wasn't I taking with you about that the other day, or was that someone else?
<victorbjelkholm>
davidar, possible, I remember someone saying something about it but don't remember
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remembers... :p
<davidar>
We were taking about replacing Dropbox.js
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<victorbjelkholm>
oooh, yeah, that is completely true. Now I remember
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<victorbjelkholm>
we should start a fund to buy the toplevel domain .ipfs
<victorbjelkholm>
would be nice to have in the transition between http -> everyone using ipfs
<gamemanj>
I know of an interim solution...
<gamemanj>
have IPFS daemons answer MDNS requests
<gamemanj>
so: ipfs-(insert long hash here).local
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<dignifiedquire_>
:cry: why is npm@3 so slow
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<victorbjelkholm>
dignifiedquire_, slow? Working faster for me here...
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<dignifiedquire_>
victorbjelkholm: lucky you, for npm install and npm update are more like rolling a dice, they throw permission errors or folder doesn’t exist errors half the time and even npm ls takes > 10s to execute on most projects -.-
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<victorbjelkholm>
dignifiedquire_, really? Never had issues like that... Using node v4.1.0 (npm v3.3.8)
<dignifiedquire_>
lucky you :(
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<fiatjaf>
why is it difficult to know which blocks I have stored locally?
<ion>
ls ~/.ipfs/blocks
<ion>
“ipfs pin ls” to see what you have pinned.
<fiatjaf>
ion: that's what I would call "difficult"
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<ansuz>
ipfs lsblk
<fiatjaf>
ion: but I can pin blocks I don't have stored locally, as it seems
<ansuz>
heh
<ion>
It will download the data to pin it.
<ansuz>
(not an actual command afaik)
<fiatjaf>
am I supposed to get any live feedback on the download progress?
<fiatjaf>
because it is taking too long
<fiatjaf>
what happens if I stop a download of a big file in the middle? can I continue later? (I suppose this file is broken into blocks and I will keep the blocks already downloaded)
<fiatjaf>
also, if I do a `ipfs ls <hash>` in a hash representing a folder I get a list of hashes and NAMES of the files inside the folder. is that ok? I thought IPFS didn't stored file names, only hashes of content (is the name of a file part of its content?).
<fiatjaf>
however, doing `ipfs ls <hash of the file inside the folder>` I get "Error: merkledag: not found". why is that?
<fiatjaf>
shouldn't IPFS give me some hints, probably on this ls command, about where these files are? if, for example, they are huge files, if I know they are on my machine I can `ipfs cat` them, but if they are not I may prefer to not `ipfs cat` them now, since it could take a lot of time.
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<sonatagreen>
giodamelio, the license link on your blog seems to be broken
<whyrusleeping>
gooooood morning
<sonatagreen>
hi
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<whyrusleeping>
if anyone is looking for recommendations on coffee beans, blue bottles bella donovan is fantastic
* whyrusleeping
goes back to drinking coffee
<M-rschulman1>
thanks for the update, whyrusleeping :)
<whyrusleeping>
lol, no problemo
<giodamelio>
sonatagreen: Thanks. I forgot to remove that.
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to fix/windows-builds: http://git.io/vWCUu
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/fix/windows-builds a0c74dc Jeromy: add check to makefile to ensure windows builds dont fail silently...
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<whyrusleeping>
daviddias: dignifiedquire is there any way we can trigger webui (and friends) tests when a new commit to go-ipfs lands in master?
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<gamemanj>
The webui is supplied via a hash, right? So it's not the webui that needs testing, it's what the webui accesses that needs testing.
<gamemanj>
And testing how people access the webui.
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created fix/ndjson (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vWCnV
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/fix/ndjson 1cfe0b8 Jeromy: put newlines between streaming json output objects...
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #1885: put newlines between streaming json output objects (master...fix/ndjson) http://git.io/vWCcI
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to fix/ndjson: http://git.io/vWCEy
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/fix/ndjson 7874a68 Jeromy: add test for ndjson output...
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<dignifiedquire>
at least I think that should work
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<ion>
An archived copy of jbenet’s Stanford talk: /ipfs/QmPkPwNx4rr9X9oma5BsMev6YT2GF9u6y1gDtLxG7NyPJq. It will be reaaaally slow to get because of my upstream bandwidth. If you want it on the network faster, play the video on https://mvideos.stanford.edu/Seminar/582, make sure “HD” is on and save and add the file from the <video> element.
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<ion>
“using Bitcoin cryptography and the BitTorrent network” – Well, sounds like *that* could run on top of IPFS instead (both parts).
<cryptix>
yup - my thoughts as well
<cryptix>
also: no content adressability afaict
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<fingertoe>
Newbee here ... If I do an ipfs dht findprovs does that show me all the addresses that have a file? or all of them that know about it? Do they have to have the full thing to show up?
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<cryptix>
fingertoe: findprovs tells you nodes that 'can' provide that hash
<achin>
and note that "hash" doesn't always mean "file"
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<cryptix>
can, as in, if you can connect to them (NATs...! :/) and they have enough bw to actually serve all the sub-hashes
<achin>
they might not have any of the linked hashes at all
<cryptix>
that also, yea
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<sonatagreen>
ZeroChat definitely looks exciting though
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<fingertoe>
So I downloaded that 524 mb video, added it -- Look up the hash and I see myself and several of the QmSoL guys -- I suspect that they are saying "We know where to get that" not "we also have that"?
<achin>
the QmSoL machines are the ipfs gateway nodes
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<cryptix>
fingertoe: which video?
<ion>
They have the object (which is probably tiny) but not necessarily all of its transitive links.
<cryptix>
like achin said, it might be somebody shared links to a file over the gateways
<achin>
and to be clear: if a peer is listed as being a provider for a hash, it means that have that object locally
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<fingertoe>
The stanford video from last night -- I have a different hash than the one above -- downloaded it from youtube -- Just curious about how it worked.. I suspect if somebody hit the gateway with the hash it would pull everything over my bandwidth. or if it would be split amongst the 4 providers
<cryptix>
yea. the gw has to have all the blocks to serve http 206's in 0 time
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<sonatagreen>
"Error: merkledag: not found" is a really unhelpful error message
<cryptix>
ion: ooh thats also interesting :)
<cryptix>
ion: i wondered if we couldnt do the http streaming that apple went with as is on ipfs
<achin>
if you have a static file of known size, you can seek pretty well by just downloading the links you want
<achin>
but what if it was a never-ending stream of data?
<cryptix>
it would need efficient ipns to update latest version
<cryptix>
well, you can never seek into the future, so... :)
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<cryptix>
never-ending is not quite true. you always have the last thing you got as 'now'
<achin>
by "never-ending" i really mean "ever-growing"
<ion>
cryptix: You would do something very similar to MPEG-DASH/HLS, yes, but what the algorithm I’m proposing adds is O(log n) seeking to any previous chunk without mutation.
<achin>
i wasn't really clear
<cryptix>
ion: sounds awesome - i will have to take a look at it when i'm less tired
<pinbot>
now pinning /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b
<pinbot>
[host 1] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fce3:c53b:c3c5:2f54:8bb0:b6d9:898e:f140]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 2] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fcfe:eab4:e49c:940f:8b29:35a4:8ea8:b01a]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 6] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fc29:9fda:3b73:c1d2:9302:31e3:964c:144c]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 7] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fcdf:a296:afe3:7118:4135:cc0b:ff92:4585]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&stream-channels=true&r=true&encoding=json&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 5] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fcd8:a4e5:3af7:557e:72e5:f9d1:a599:e329]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 0] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fc98:424c:b433:d7e2:7ee3:9541:73ff:2cdb]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 3] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fc4e:5427:3cd0:cc4c:4770:25bb:a682:d06c]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 4] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fc3d:9a4e:3c96:2fd2:1afa:18fe:8dd2:b602]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
now pinning /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b
<pinbot>
[host 7] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fcdf:a296:afe3:7118:4135:cc0b:ff92:4585]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 5] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fcd8:a4e5:3af7:557e:72e5:f9d1:a599:e329]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<ion>
cryptix: !pin has been broken for a while.
<pinbot>
[host 1] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fce3:c53b:c3c5:2f54:8bb0:b6d9:898e:f140]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 0] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fc98:424c:b433:d7e2:7ee3:9541:73ff:2cdb]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 2] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fcfe:eab4:e49c:940f:8b29:35a4:8ea8:b01a]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 3] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fc4e:5427:3cd0:cc4c:4770:25bb:a682:d06c]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 6] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fc29:9fda:3b73:c1d2:9302:31e3:964c:144c]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&stream-channels=true&r=true&encoding=json&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<pinbot>
[host 4] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b: Post http://[fc3d:9a4e:3c96:2fd2:1afa:18fe:8dd2:b602]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmTtqKeVpgQ73KbeoaaomvLoYMP7XKemhTgPNjasWjfh9b&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
* ion
assumes whyrusleeping’s comment was directed to pinbot
<cryptix>
ion: i think so, yes :)
<whyrusleeping>
lol
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<cryptix>
i should get some sleep.. ion: what am i doing with the red crosses?
<ion>
cryptix: Simulating an object missing the link you crossed to see what the algorithm does with the following objects above.
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<ion>
cryptix: Try for example deleting T’s link to Q which will cause the U’s relevant bucket to become empty. In that case, U’s subsequent bucket will retain the link to M.
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<fingertoe>
Are there websites up monitoring and showing the growth over time of the IPFS 'cloud'?
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<victorbjelkholm>
Who is behind the IPFSBot account on Twitter?
<victorbjelkholm>
guessing the team as a whole, no?
<victorbjelkholm>
hm, not sure. I remember something about jbenet wanting to open up the public gateway but don't remember if I were reading through the irc logs or github issues
<victorbjelkholm>
I think the thing missing was the rate limiting
<whyrusleeping>
but the PR description is... lacking
<cryptix>
its based on 0.4 also
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* cryptix
shouldnt have broken that putHandler
<cryptix>
victorbjelkholm: i guess you would be fine with single file put?
<victorbjelkholm>
Absolutely!
<ipfspics-Vincent>
Did anyone try installing ipfspics on their own server?
<ipfspics-Vincent>
Didier will upload the missing sql file a bit later today
<victorbjelkholm>
GET I can always to do via the public gateway already, like the existing client-side apps already work
<lgierth>
fingertoe: we only have monitoring for operations
<lgierth>
and for now we didn't really care about historical data
<cryptix>
victorbjelkholm: i will try to unbreak the put - it should be easier now with some other api available
<cryptix>
fingertoe: re node count: def more than last year :)
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<lgierth>
we got a good bump from that techcrunch article, but it has decreased a little again
<lgierth>
i estimate ~200 nodes at the moment
<victorbjelkholm>
cryptix, that would be awesome. So you think I can start assuming this will be available and running somewhere public soon? So if I start adapting my pastebin clone to client-side only, I'll be able to update it soon?
<victorbjelkholm>
maybe it's too much to ask
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<victorbjelkholm>
whyrusleeping, am not sure if I'm making myself clear enough in the issue about the broken webui. CORS is only if the domains are different, also, when using something like cURL, there is no CORS restrictions
<victorbjelkholm>
unless IPFS doesn't something outside of how CORS is supposed to be working
<victorbjelkholm>
s/doesn't/does
<multivac>
victorbjelkholm meant to say: unless IPFS does something outside of how CORS is supposed to be working
<victorbjelkholm>
Huh, it does certainly do something outside how CORS is supposed to be working. It seems to be invalid if I set the Refer header, even if the Refer is the same as the actual host the daemon is running on. Seems like the API is unnecessary restrictive
<victorbjelkholm>
ion, working perfectly :) Nicely done
<victorbjelkholm>
now off and submit patches for chrome and firefox to support it natively ;)
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<cryptix>
ion: hrm.. the url path gets lost in firefox
<ion>
cryptix: Aww. I didn’t bother to test in Firefox.
<victorbjelkholm>
cryptix, is working correctly in firefox for me... Which version are you on?
<ion>
Anyway, it’s just a quick experiment and not going to be useful for production.
<cryptix>
victorbjelkholm: 41
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<whyrusleeping>
victorbjelkholm: the daemon is whitelisted to listen to commands from localhost
<whyrusleeping>
your browser making those requests on a different machine is not localhost
<whyrusleeping>
therefore, youre going to get permission errors
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<victorbjelkholm>
whyrusleeping, I see, extra security step I guess. Anyway I can turn that off? Is it coupled with the origin env var?
<whyrusleeping>
victorbjelkholm: i think so...
<cryptix>
whyrusleeping: is no link named "test.txt" under ... ' an error i can test against?
<whyrusleeping>
theres some config setting that is supposed to deprecate the env_var
<cryptix>
victorbjelkholm: see ipfs daemon --help
<victorbjelkholm>
hm, probably want to decouple CORS things and custom security steps
<victorbjelkholm>
I see
<victorbjelkholm>
thanks for clarification and sorry for any confusion created
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<cryptix>
i think --unrestricted-api is meant as an turn-all-off
<whyrusleeping>
no, --unrestricted-api means you can load arbitrary hashes on the 5001 port
<whyrusleeping>
and i'm still pretty sure that stuff is cors. thats what jbenet and mappum led me to beleive
<cryptix>
well, you can load your app as its ipfs root hash, no?
<mappum>
it's not actual CORS, it's CSRF prevention
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<whyrusleeping>
oh
<whyrusleeping>
TIL
<cryptix>
whyrusleeping: is no link named "test.txt" under ... ' an error i can test against? <
<mappum>
it's the node's way of making sure API requests are legit, so you can't visit some attackers page and have them edit your config, add bad files, etc
<whyrusleeping>
cryptix: uhm... i beleive so
<whyrusleeping>
yes
<mappum>
previously we just whitelisted the webui hash so it could make any api request
<mappum>
idk if that code has changed?
<whyrusleeping>
if by 'test against' you mean, something that probably wont change
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<whyrusleeping>
mappum: something might be up with the webui, could you take a look? it works fine on my box, but others (jbenet included) report otherwise
<mappum>
sure, i'll investigate
<cryptix>
whyrusleeping: actually i wanted to get the root hash from it.. :)
<whyrusleeping>
cryptix: haha, there might be a better way than that
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<cryptix>
whyrusleeping: nice! in PUT:/ipfs/$somehash/path/to/foo i want to overwrite or create foo, resolving the root up to 'to'
<cryptix>
and it looked like thats what the error already did for me
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<cryptix>
'object patch' already expects a resolved root afaict
<whyrusleeping>
cryptix: 'ipfs object stat <hash>/path/to/thing --enc=json' will give you the hash of a path
<lgierth>
whyrusleeping: pinbot ^
<whyrusleeping>
object patch can handle paths
<cryptix>
whyrusleeping: im trying to patch the writeable gateway
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<cryptix>
id rather not shell out in the middle of an http request :)
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now pinning /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN
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[host 1] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN: Post http://[fce3:c53b:c3c5:2f54:8bb0:b6d9:898e:f140]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
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[host 2] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN: Post http://[fcfe:eab4:e49c:940f:8b29:35a4:8ea8:b01a]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
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[host 7] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN: Post http://[fcdf:a296:afe3:7118:4135:cc0b:ff92:4585]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
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[host 6] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN: Post http://[fc29:9fda:3b73:c1d2:9302:31e3:964c:144c]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN&r=true&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
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[host 5] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN: Post http://[fcd8:a4e5:3af7:557e:72e5:f9d1:a599:e329]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
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[host 0] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN: Post http://[fc98:424c:b433:d7e2:7ee3:9541:73ff:2cdb]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
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[host 3] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN: Post http://[fc4e:5427:3cd0:cc4c:4770:25bb:a682:d06c]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
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[host 4] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN: Post http://[fc3d:9a4e:3c96:2fd2:1afa:18fe:8dd2:b602]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: trailer header without chunked transfer encoding
<ion>
whyrusleeping: Nice. Have you (collectively) given thought to adding a TTL field to IPNS records? Also, is this change going to make the gateway serve a max-age header equivalent to the IPNS cache TTL?
<cryptix>
we might have a partially working putHandler but it needs more tests
<whyrusleeping>
ipns records do have a ttl field
<ion>
whyrusleeping: Sorry, i meant a cache TTL field.
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<lgierth>
whyrusleeping: ;)
<ion>
whyrusleeping: Like, “don’t bother asking the network again for n seconds”
<lgierth>
ion: we are one
<lgierth>
:)
<ion>
whyrusleeping: The gateway could also use that for max-age on /ipns addresses.
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #1887: cache ipns entries to speed things up a little (master...feat/ipns-cache) http://git.io/vWWxx
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/ipns-cache from 47a0685 to b0e2090: http://git.io/vWWp5
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/ipns-cache b0e2090 Jeromy: cache ipns entries to speed things up a little...
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<_jkh_>
well, step one complete
<_jkh_>
ipfs is in FreeNAS 10-ALPHA
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<_jkh_>
step two: figure out some sort of UI for using it easily
<_jkh_>
step three: profit!
<whyrusleeping>
_jkh_: WOOOO!
<whyrusleeping>
i saw the announcment, thats so cool
<ion>
jkh: nice
<lgierth>
:):)
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