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<roguism> Is there a spec for the git-like system on IPFS?
<jbenet> hey roguism -- not quite yet. there's two paths: (1) is importing/wrapping actual git. there's a few approaches to this, whyrusleeping made a git-http-clonable rehost https://github.com/whyrusleeping/git-ipfs-rehost -- cryptix made an _actual git remote_ plugin https://github.com/cryptix/git-remote-ipfs -- then (2) there's adding commits to ipfs. this has
<jbenet> been meaning to happen for a well, but i wanted to get identity right first. that still hasnt happened, but we can now count on identity being objects, so we can probably implement https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/23 very soon
<jbenet> hey everyone can i ask we do more Q/A over the FAQ ? it's a much better resource for newcommers than irc logs.
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<lgierth> .
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<roguism> Alright
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<Qwertie-> Hi
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<Qwertie-> I have had the ipfs daemon running in the background for a while and I just noticed its using an unusually large amount of data even though I havent used it to fetch anything for a while. Its using 10-20KB/s continuously. What could be causing that?
<jbenet> Qwertie it's the DHT -- we need to add configurable resource limits to it -- https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/1482
<Qwertie-> Ah I see. I dont really mind it using that much resources. Just wanted to know what it was doing :p
<Qwertie-> Am I helping anyone by leaving it running?
<jbenet> Qwertie: yeah running nodes in the DHT definitely helps
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<jbenet> hey lgierth: around?
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<lgierth> jbenet: yeah!
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<jbenet> thoughts?
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<lgierth> posted
<ricmoo> How do I expose the API of the go-ipfs? Ideally with a netmask...
<lgierth> ricmoo: you'll have to put a firewall or reverse proxy in front
<ricmoo> That was my plan B... :)
<ricmoo> Cool. Thanks. :)
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) We have the /ipfs/<hash>(/path) and /ipns/<id>(/path) notation. Is there already an agreed upon notation to describe protocol channels? (e.g. /peer/<id>/<protocolstring>)
<jbenet> @void4: yep that works, well use /ipfs/<peer-id>/<rest-of-protocol>. it's like a https://github.com/jbenet/multicodec identifier or a https://github.com/jbenet/multiaddr. maybe open an issue in notes to document ideas. and whatever you do should be embeddable, so i could write it in a multiaddr: /ip4/1.2.3.4/tcp/1234/ipfs/<peerid>/<protocol>
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) Because right now, it is not possible to differ between IPNS paths without the prefix and a channel (whose protocol string could be part of a path layout itself)
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) I am not sure if both device dependent and independent identifiers should have the same prefix. Since you told me of libp2p and especially after I've heard of Ethereums view of Whisper and Swarm, both seem logically separate to me. This notation basically mixes immutable data and channels. If a program that only uses libp2p receives an IPFS path and it represents a hash it only
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) *cannot resolve it.
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) Maybe I'm confusing something.
<jbenet> i think it works, for example, suppose a pub/sub protocol uses "/pubsub/<channel-id>" eg /pubsub/chanid -- you can tell people to connect to /ipfs/<peerid>/pubsub/<chanid> (their ipfs node can find /ipfs/<peerid> in the network, and connect, and ask for /pubsub/<chanid>)
<jbenet> but you can ALSO say connect to /ip4/1.2.3.4/ipfs/<peerid>/pubsub/<chanid> to an ipfs node _without_ a peer-routing protocol, and it would now know how to connect to you.
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) It seems to depend on whether the identity resolution mechanism is part of libp2p or IPFS. Is ipfs/specs up-to-date with this information?
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) I don't know if your terminology has changed in the last months, but for me, libp2p is responsible for direct messaging with another device (not necessarily another node in the IPFS network), which may include a peer routing mechanism, while IPFS builds on top of it and is concerned about source independent data - which requires additional capabilities such as the Distributed Record Store, BitSwap etc.
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4)
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) While libp2p has a flat identity namespace, IPFS has a flat data namespace.
<jbenet> yeah void4 that makes sense. it depends on whether other p2p systems want to share systems like dhts and connectivity in general. maybe so :)
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) In the end, it's also about defining where the following is preferable over the other: path elements, prefixes, internal data formats. Immutable paths are structured like this: /ipfs/<prefix+hash>(/path), mutable paths are /ipns/<identity>(+possibly /path) and channels are /ipfs/<identity>/<protocol>. Unless identities get their own prefix (multikey) libp2p cannot discern what the next component in a /ipfs path is. And even then: both multike
<ipfs-gitter-bot> multihashes occupy the same namespace.
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<kandinski> I seem to recall a discussion about extending the multihash protocol to prepend a byte with the encoding (bytestring, hex, base64, bas58, which base58 alphabet, etc)
<kandinski> what was the conclusion?
<whyrusleeping> kandinski: if you dont know what the encoding is, how will you know what a 'byte' is?
<whyrusleeping> seems silly
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) Technically, we could go full circle and prepend a byte describing what multi-prefix is used next.
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<kandinski> whyrusleeping: it would be a byte-restricted-to-printable describing the encoding of the rest of the multihash
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<kandinski> that's a good point
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) prefix it with the largest character in that encoding
<whyrusleeping> kandinski: okay, so we need to limit ourselves to 'only bytes that can be printed the same in all encodings' ?
<whyrusleeping> davidar, but there are multiple implementations of a given encoding
<whyrusleeping> base64 has at least three
<whyrusleeping> base58 has two that i know of
<kandinski> but you would take that byte out before decoding the rest
<kandinski> so imagine the encoding is hex
<kandinski> the code for "hex encoding" could be X
<kandinski> X<currentmultihashinhex>
<kandinski> whyrusleeping: mind you, I'm not suggesting it; I was merely asking whether there was a conclusion reached.
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) The multi-prefix relates to the problem mentioned above: You need something else to indicate what type of format the identifier is. Right now they are the path elements /ipfs and /ipns, whereby /ipfs is a bit ambigous. A multi-prefix would effectively specify whether the following data represents an identity, data hash or channel.
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) whyrusleeping: ok, largest character, and then disambiguating characters :p
<kandinski> I see no conclusion reached yet.
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) In some sense, I don't understand why we don't just have /ipfs/sha256/hex/deadbeef
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) More verbose, but fits in with the path naming system
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) The problem with the path naming system is that we cannot publish files which have the path of another file as name.
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht created reuse-transport (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vBeHk
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/reuse-transport aeab3e6 rht: http client: reuse transport previously created in NewClient...
<kandinski> void4, can you give an example?
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) If I want to distribute my address as a file which has that name, the path to the file itself becomes ambigous
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht opened pull request #1991: http client: reuse transport previously created in NewClient (dev0.4.0...reuse-transport) http://git.io/vBeHl
<kandinski> I see, thanks
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) /ipfs/Qm...//ipfs/<id>
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) I fail to see the problem
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) If the filename would have a multi-prefix (or whatever it should be called) we wouldn't even need /ipfs, so the above would become something like a1Qm/a0<id>
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) I don't think removing /ipfs is going to happen
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) Given jbenet wants everything to be a path...
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) If anything i think we should replace multihash with path components
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) That sounds interesting, too.
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) davidar: Does my general argument for the separation of the identity and data namespaces make sense (/ipfs)?
<kandinski> but a blob's multihash is also used in kad routing, for finding a distance between the file and "its node", right?
<kandinski> you xor the blob's hash and the node's address
<kandinski> so both have to have the same shape or similar
<whyrusleeping> mmm, i dont like gitter
<whyrusleeping> matrix was nicer for me
<whyrusleeping> i could more easily tell who you all are
<whyrusleeping> also, whered my monacle go?
<whyrusleeping> there we go
<deltab> hmm, irc clients could add support for bridging, given a convention for signalling it
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<kandinski> hi deltab
<deltab> hi
<deltab> I'm half asleep, so my apologies if I'm not making sense
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<deltab> I see some appeal in /ipfs/sha256/hex/deadbeef, but does it confer any practical benefit?
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (davidar) whyrusleeping: yeah, only using this temporarily ;)
<deltab> at the level at which it's used in a path, it's just an arbitrary string, and its substructure isn't that interesting or worth exposing in separate path components
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) and it would make the "path as filename" problem even worse
<deltab> IP addresses and domain names are hierarchical, but that's not typically reflected in directory structures (Java class naming and the like aside)
<whyrusleeping> guys, os.Exit(1) is bad
<whyrusleeping> its kills defers
<whyrusleeping> just b t dubs
<deltab> yeah, the python equivalent raises a SystemExit exception allowing handlers to run
<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) @deltab: One might want to store a file which has its multihash as its name
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht pushed 1 new commit to reuse-transport: http://git.io/vBebk
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/reuse-transport e93d09d rht: Simplify client cancel err message...
<deltab> yes
<deltab> sometimes pathnames or URLs too
<whyrusleeping> deltab: yeah, the go version just calls exit
<whyrusleeping> it does exactly what you'd expect if you wrote C for a living before coming to go
<whyrusleeping> "GTFO right now"
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created wip/fix-close-notify (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vBepi
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/wip/fix-close-notify 2245858 Jeromy: WIP: working on making close notify work
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<Not_> so what can i already do with ipfs?
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #1992: WIP: working on making close notify work (dev0.4.0...wip/fix-close-notify) http://git.io/vBepb
<Stskeeps> what can't you do :) it works, download it, try it out
<Not_> like what do people use it for
<Not_> not was its theoretically possible to do with it
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht force-pushed reuse-transport from e93d09d to ba29597: http://git.io/vBvkc
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/reuse-transport ba29597 rht: Simplify client cancel err message...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht force-pushed reuse-transport from ba29597 to 019cf0e: http://git.io/vBvkc
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/reuse-transport 019cf0e rht: Simplify client cancel err message...
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<deltab> hrm, can't you have a specific error subclass?
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht force-pushed reuse-transport from 019cf0e to 55abd53: http://git.io/vBvkc
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/reuse-transport 7abcdf6 rht: http client: reuse transport previously created in NewClient...
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<ogzy> hi, i am trying to run ipfs at my private network to understand its working, , removed te bootstrap nodes, does superouting servers required?
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<ogzy> i meaned removed from .ipfs/config
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<kahiru> ogzy, if i understand it correctly, you could remove the superrouting servers and set the daemon to use dht routing
<ogzy> kahiru, what is dht routing?
<ogzy> kahiru, distributed hash table routing?
<kahiru> ogzy, something like that. I'm not really sure how it works, I just saw something like that in the daemons options
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<dignifiedquire> good morning everyone
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) Good morning!
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) Some time ago there was a request for libp2p functionality to be accessible from the console and from the APIs (e.g. $ ipfs channel send /ipfs/<id>/<protocol> <data>). Are there any updates for that? It would simplify the development for devices that cannot run nodes themselves.
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<ogzy> after removing superrouting and bootstrap nodes, i run the ipfs daemon at the nodes, to make them connect, what should i run, ipfs swarm connect? or ipfs bootstrap add?
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire I'm here :)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: welcome :D
<daviddias> thank you :)
<daviddias> looking at your PR's :)
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 14 new commits to master: http://git.io/vBvMq
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/master b138ee1 Connor Keenan: add opts to constructor
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/master 8babda6 Connor Keenan: parse mocha test files from karma config
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/master bbcdd5b Connor Keenan: new test/constructor.js parameter tests
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<daviddias> My wifi went out :( will take me a bit more to get this last merge released
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: yeah it passes on my local machine, log/tail is super slow at times :(
<dignifiedquire> sometimes completely hangs for minutes
<dignifiedquire> (even on the cli)
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vBvbR
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/master 2032805 David Dias: chore: build
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/master fe1a912 David Dias: release v2.9.2
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid tagged v2.9.2 at ec1f27f: http://git.io/vBvbu
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #98: Update ipfs-api to version 2.9.2
<daviddias> .ask whyrusleeping why `ipfs log tail` is so slow //cc dignifiedquire
<multivac> daviddias: I'll pass that on when whyrusleeping is around.
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: what about the remaining failures on https://travis-ci.org/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/builds/92548504
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I wish I knew circle ci and my local machine are happy with it :(
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: are they passing for you?
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: my best guess it’s a race issue
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht closed pull request #1991: http client: reuse transport previously created in NewClient (dev0.4.0...reuse-transport) http://git.io/vBeHl
<Stskeeps> first qt/qml+js app running with .qml and images from ipfs? https://twitter.com/stskeeps/status/668422295430524928
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<ion> >Floppy Disk
<Stskeeps> ion: wow, guess vmware emulates that indeed
<ion> whyrusleeping, ansuz: Sitar cover of Animals as Leaders – Tooth & Claw https://youtu.be/PlFLYRX49Qs
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht created wire/ctx-http-request (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vBff5
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/wire/ctx-http-request 4b2c598 rht: Directly wire ctx into http request...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht opened pull request #1993: Directly wire ctx into http request (dev0.4.0...wire/ctx-http-request) http://git.io/vBfJq
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid created Dignifiedquire-ref-tests (+5 new commits): http://git.io/vBfIY
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/Dignifiedquire-ref-tests c81fc51 dignifiedquire: test: split tests into multiple files
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/Dignifiedquire-ref-tests 2553c7d dignifiedquire: tests: passing and got one more in the browser
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/Dignifiedquire-ref-tests c988dd5 dignifiedquire: test: Move node connection into setup
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: around?
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: what’s up?
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: sure thing
<daviddias> thank you! :)
<dignifiedquire> I just don’t do it because I don’t want to clobber the branches list with my stuff :D
<daviddias> oh, no problem at all with adding tons of branchs, we can always clean the ones that were merged after
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire created ref-tests (+4 new commits): http://git.io/vBfte
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/ref-tests 97ec8a9 dignifiedquire: test: split tests into multiple files
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/ref-tests 41f2052 dignifiedquire: test: Move node connection into setup
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/ref-tests f961797 dignifiedquire: tests: passing and got one more in the browser
<daviddias> what I typically do is to have "origin" and "fork" remotes
<daviddias> and if I have `push` perm, I push the branch to origin for the PR
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire closed pull request #133: test: split tests into multiple files (master...ref-tests) http://git.io/v4jj6
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire opened pull request #134: Refactor tests into separate files (master...ref-tests) http://git.io/vBft3
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: there you go https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/pull/134
<daviddias> sweeet :)
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire deleted Dignifiedquire-ref-tests at f68d00b: http://git.io/vBftP
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire deleted bug/undefined-header at 79c30bf: http://git.io/vBftN
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire deleted support-multiaddr at 639b73a: http://git.io/vBftj
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid deleted buffer-readme at cd543dd: http://git.io/vBfqO
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid deleted issue70 at ccbf5ef: http://git.io/vBfqR
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid deleted add-vinyl-stream at d6e93e0: http://git.io/vBfqz
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid deleted feat/name-publish at 6df2261: http://git.io/vBfqa
<daviddias> done :)
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I’m thinking of splitting up index.js in the same way I did with the tests and have something similar like ronin does for cli stuff loading it dynamically from a specified folder, what do you think?
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: spring cleaning :)
<daviddias> sounds good :)
<daviddias> one question, what `standard` are you using? Mine complains with these global vars scheme on tests
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<dignifiedquire> it’s snowing
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: you need to use an eslint plugin to stop it from complaining
<haadcode> snowing here a little
<daviddias> snowball fights! :D
<dignifiedquire> standard = wrapper around eslint configs
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: I use syntastic + standard, do I need to use another thing?
<dignifiedquire> for vim?
<daviddias> I've kind of using standard as the golden rule of thumb
<daviddias> yep, for vim
<daviddias> but doesn't that mean that we are adding stuff to the "standard" code style?
<dignifiedquire> strictly speaking yes, but the same way you do with your code comment /* global */ but with an .eslintrc file
<dignifiedquire> that’s because standard specifically refrains from providing things for writing tests
<dignifiedquire> but we also follow standard because we are using: https://github.com/feross/eslint-config-standard
<dignifiedquire> it’s cause ware ADVANCED USERS
<dignifiedquire> s/ware/we are
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to ref-tests: http://git.io/vBfYd
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/ref-tests d3a5a98 David Dias: travis test log
<daviddias> ahahah
<dignifiedquire> looks like you can continue using syntastic, just enable the eslint checker instead of standard
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<daviddias> "Hang tight, the log cannot be shown until the build has started."
* daviddias grabs popcorn
<dignifiedquire> hah
<dignifiedquire> it’s a firefox issue Oo
<dignifiedquire> I can reproduce on my local machine
<daviddias> re: but it would be nice if people don't have to configure more stuff for one project (therefore putting the /* globals at the top
<dignifiedquire> but there are so many files now, you’d have to put it in every one of those :(
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<dignifiedquire> and it’s not like eslint is the rarest used linter ;) for example for emacs there isn’t a standard integration I always have to use the eslint version
<dignifiedquire> I officially hate “chunked response"
<daviddias> it is the problem with 'ping'?
<dignifiedquire> yes
<dignifiedquire> it behaves differently in firefox
<daviddias> how so?
<dignifiedquire> Firefox is combining two chunks into one, leaving with me unparsable json
<dignifiedquire> -.-
<dignifiedquire> grabbing some food
<daviddias> fuuuuuuu
<daviddias> /o\
<daviddias> why is PING being chunked anyway it should be a stream, the most
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: can’t we dropped chunked resonse, and just use ndjson streams everyhwere and depending on the command we either buffer it into a full json object or return the stream of parsed objects
<dignifiedquire> that would make it much less error prone
<daviddias> a file isn't really a ndjson stream
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to ref-tests: http://git.io/vBfn4
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/ref-tests e20fddb David Dias: make travis test pass (cause Firefox https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/issues/135)
<dignifiedquire> but we are using chunked responses for json objects
<dignifiedquire> and files should just be streamed
<daviddias> re: "but we are using chunked responses for json objects" I believe there might be some mis{understanding,implementation} problem there
<dignifiedquire> ideally I think it should go-ipfs should send
<dignifiedquire> 1. json based response: ndjson stream
<dignifiedquire> 2. all other responses: text based stream
<dignifiedquire> js-ipfs-api would handle these like this:
<dignifiedquire> 1. buffer ? aggregate json objects into array and return it : return res.pipe(ndjson)
<dignifiedquire> 2. buffer ? aggregate into new Buffer() : return res
<daviddias> From my understanding, an ndjson stream should be a collection of independent datablobs, that can be "sent" asynchronously
<daviddias> there can be JSON responses that aren't `streams`
<dignifiedquire> as long as we send stream-channels=true all responses should be streams
<dignifiedquire> and for stream-channels=false no response should be a stream
<dignifiedquire> this would be much more predictable for everyone involved compared to the current behaviour where it’s more guess work than anything else what will happen
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<daviddias> We need to have a solid HTTP API spec, that go-ipfs can execute and client libraries can follow
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<dignifiedquire> yes
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: is there any start on this? like test cases, auto generated specs, etc?
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid closed pull request #134: Refactor tests into separate files (master...ref-tests) http://git.io/vBft3
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I think my next task is then focusing on getting this spec done and implemented, as this blocking and distubing the work in ipfs-api and the stuff I want to do in the webui everytime I touch it
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid tagged v2.9.3 at 1e9339e: http://git.io/vBflb
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #99: Update ipfs-api to version 2.9.3
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: yeah, I'm also feeling that I keep having conversations (and sometimes repeated) about the HTTP API and something that is poorly documented, badly implemented
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: maybe we can use the apps hangout tomorrow to get a plan of action together on how to best tacle this?
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: sounds good
<daviddias> I'll be arriving at Lisbon at 18:55h , 35 mins before the Apps hangout, if nothing wrong happens, I should make it just in time :)
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: great, otherwise we steal your ipfs-js time :P
<daviddias> ahahah
<daviddias> 3 out of 4 PR is js-ipfs-api are docs https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/pulls :P
<daviddias> btw victorbjelkholm where are you man? I still have the box of Pastel de Nata, not sure if they are still good though
<dignifiedquire> .tell richardlit need to talk about (http api) docs, plan is to have a session in the ipfs-apps sync hangout (context: https://github.com/ipfs/specs/issues/6#issuecomment-158766312)
<multivac> dignifiedquire: I'll pass that on when richardlit is around.
<ipfsbot> [webui] Dignifiedquire closed pull request #98: Update ipfs-api to version 2.9.2
<victorbjelkholm> daviddias, life is grabbing me by the balls :/ You're in Barcelona now right?
<victorbjelkholm> you have any time for a beer tonight perhaps?
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<daviddias> victorbjelkholm: are you ok? No problem if you are super busy
<daviddias> I'm in BCN till tomorrow :)
<victorbjelkholm> daviddias, yeah, everything is good here :) Would love to have a beer tonight if you have time
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid force-pushed feat/files-api from f5ae644 to 13f2c92: http://git.io/vBf2m
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/feat/files-api d4e8f0c David Dias: add test-usn to be able to use own local node (good for when testing new IPFS versions)
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/feat/files-api 0ecdd2b David Dias: files api tests
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/feat/files-api 13e29ea David Dias: fix rm -r bug
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<nicolagreco> anyone in boston?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht created wire/ctx-bitswap-cancelwant (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vBfw9
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/wire/ctx-bitswap-cancelwant 5717463 rht: Bitswap Getblocks: CancelWant on ctx cancel...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht opened pull request #1995: Bitswap Getblocks: CancelWant on ctx cancel (dev0.4.0...wire/ctx-bitswap-cancelwant) http://git.io/vBfrL
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht force-pushed wire/ctx-bitswap-cancelwant from 5717463 to ad84e8b: http://git.io/vBfr2
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/wire/ctx-bitswap-cancelwant ad84e8b rht: Bitswap Getblocks: CancelWant on ctx cancel...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to feat/files-api: http://git.io/vBfXI
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/feat/files-api f2b72db David Dias: fix linting
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to feat/files-api: http://git.io/vBfXE
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/feat/files-api 85942b9 David Dias: remove standard ignore from package.json
<nicolagreco> how is `/ipfs/dht/1.0.0` resolved? is dht a reserved name?
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire created ref/api-split (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vBfbN
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/ref/api-split ebd915e dignifiedquire: refactor: Split api definitions into separate files
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: api split done
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire opened pull request #136: refactor: Split api definitions into separate files (master...ref/api-split) http://git.io/vBfNJ
<nicolagreco> coming back to a discussion I had in the past few days, is there a way for me to use /bittorrent/infohash right now?
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<SebastianCB> Hi all! Is any data encryption currently implemented in IPFS?
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<lgierth> SebastianCB: not yet -- it's not too far away though
<SebastianCB> thanks!
<SebastianCB> lgierth: any idea if we are talking about weeks or months?
<lgierth> definitely not this year ;)
<SebastianCB> (depending on that I'd look for encryption elsewhere)
<SebastianCB> ok thanks!
<lgierth> you can add already encrypted data to ipfs
<SebastianCB> sure, was just wondering whats the fastest way for me to go
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<SebastianCB> so if, e.g. everything that I ipfs add would be encrypted already I'd be super happy :)
<SebastianCB> but of course you're right I will simply encrypt it myself before that
<lgierth> this is probably interesting to you: https://github.com/ipfs/faq/issues/6
<SebastianCB> yeah was just browsing through it, was just wondering how far this already is. But "not this year" is an answer on that ;)
<lgierth> well we have it mostly figured out
<lgierth> just need to finish other stuff first
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<SebastianCB> thanks for the headsup lgierth
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to wire/ctx-http-request: http://git.io/vBJBL
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/wire/ctx-http-request ff76771 Jeromy: vendor ctxhttp
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<circ-user-X4wnc> Hi
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed wip/fix-close-notify from 2245858 to b3c943c: http://git.io/vBJRx
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/wip/fix-close-notify b3c943c Jeromy: WIP: working on making close notify work...
<James_Epp> Dear god this thing actually works.
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<andresgutgon> Hi, quick question. Someone know where is the code of this ipfs.io site? I do not see on github. I mean the public site
<lgierth> andresgutgon: ipfs/website
<lgierth> and it's served through ipfs itself
<lgierth> (only with nginx in front)
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<lgierth> James_Epp: :):)
<andresgutgon> nice! Thanks igierth
<andresgutgon> I though it was using https://github.com/diasdavid/ipscend to generate and publish it
<lgierth> not yet -- wanna make it do so?
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<andresgutgon> nop :) I just wanted to have the ipscend.json as an example to visualize it. I'm working on the previewer https://github.com/diasdavid/ipscend/issues/2
<James_Epp> I'm torturing IPFS right now. ipfs init ; ipfs get $hash ; (it downloads to 43MB) ; (ctrl+C the daemon) ; ipfs init ; ipfs get $hash ; . Doesn't look like it's downloading anymore. Do I have to wait more or can I start it from scratch?
<cryptix> James_Epp: why are you doing that to begin with? (the restarting)
<James_Epp> cryptix: See how well it manages a service disruption.
<cryptix> if you want to see what a node is doing thre is 'ipfs bitswap stat' and https://github.com/jbenet/node-bsdash
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] gamemanj closed pull request #1907: Add "privkey" parameter to ipfs name publish (master...master) http://git.io/vW5IE
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* drathir wonder if that really need to be downloaded ? github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/Godeps/_workspace/src/github.com
<drathir> and that one github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/vendor/QmQg1J6vikuXF9oDvm4wpdeAUvvkVEKW1EYDw9HhTMnP2b/go-log
<fazo> who wants to see a discussion board platform built on top of ipfs? :)
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<fazo> I've been working on one for a few weeks. It's got a prototype that works and a protocol well laid out. Just looking for anyone who's interested in contributing
<fazo> here's the github project page: https://github.com/fazo96/ipfs-boards and here's the cool landing page with added prototype: http://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmSqHvZDxiZFEy1AY6BXmogSk6DZiVJRUU4HEm7DmXSqno
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<nicolagreco> hey fazo, I just saw on github we come from the same country (great idea)
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<fazo> nicolagreco: good :) the plan is to get it to work in any browser. I'm building it in advance since js-ipfs is not done yet
<fazo> for now it just connects to go-ipfs' http api
<fazo> nicolagreco: where in italy are you from?
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire created release (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vBJ72
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/release ac65107 dignifiedquire: chore: Add gulp release task
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire opened pull request #137: chore: Add gulp release task (master...release) http://git.io/vBJ7x
<nicolagreco> btw, I am quite scared of everyone using localstore in ipfs webapps since if served through the ipfs gateway they all share the same origin, so different single page web app can get information from each other pages
<nicolagreco> fazo I am from Rome, what about you?
<ion> nicolagreco: The gateway uses suborigins for that.
<fazo> nicolagreco: I'm from a small town near Milan :)
<nicolagreco> ion do you mean this -> http://w3c.github.io/webappsec-suborigins/ ?
<fazo> nicolagreco: ion: I forgot about that localstorage issue, I should probably put a warning... The plan is to use that to store everything since really there's no other way that I know of
<ion> nicolagreco: yeah
<fazo> ion: well then it's a non-issue. Should still document that in the FAQs.
<ion> I don’t know how many of the popular browsers support suborigins yet, though. But it’s coming.
<nicolagreco> ion I havent read much about that, can you give me an example of how it would work?
<ion> Non-matching Suborigin headers (given the same hostname) in the response are handled like non-matching subdomains would be if the requests had a different hostname AFAIU.
<fazo> nicolagreco: basically the server adds a header or something like that to pages that identifies them, so the browser uses different localStorages even if the domain is the same.
<fazo> I guess the gateway could use the IP(F/N)S address as a suborigin. It would work fine
<nicolagreco> very interesting! This is the first time I saw suborigin, I think this is really great (I was sure someone would have come up with something similar)
<nicolagreco> I wonder when surfing an eventual fs:/ how origins are handled
<ion> The hash in /ipfs/<hash>/path is used as the Suborigin indeed.
<ion> nicolagreco: The same way, I’d assume.
<nicolagreco> ion do you know by any chance how content-types are handled by ipfs? is it just by looking at the extension or there is some clever way?
<ion> AFAIU go-ipfs just uses magic (no pun intended) to estimate the MIME type when serving a HTTP request.
<ion> Determining the MIME type based on the filename (if any) would be a bit evil.
<fazo> can confirm it's magic. Been using the http api extensively for a while, and when the file has valid json it justs knows. That's easy, but I think it also applies to other stuff
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<fazo> if you have a directory structure you can use the filenames, but it wouldn't work with just the hash
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<fazo> I'm trying to figure out a way to index content in my discussion board platform. Content could be distributed in hundreds or thousands of user profiles. How do you get "the latest 10 posts"?
<fazo> or the most commented
<fazo> the only way is to build an index from scratch every time or cache it
<fazo> the protocol currently uses list to aggregate every post a user makes in a specific board, but I was thinking I should switch to a linked list (only the last is indexed, then each one points to the previous)
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<fazo> it would allow huge lists without having to download the whole list. But then what if I want to figure out if a user actually posted a post? I need to traverse the list thus downloading unneeded content
<ion> golang net/http seems to use this and not libmagic. https://mimesniff.spec.whatwg.org/
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<ricmoo> Is there a way to get a block via the gateway?
<ricmoo> Or is it only for getting objects?
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<survi> can someone tell me how to build IPFS from source (i.e. a tagged relese from GitHub)? Or is this more of a go issue?
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<dignifiedquire> survi: what are your issues? it’s pretty much all explained here: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs#build-from-source
<dignifiedquire> survi: also looking at the makefile helps to figure some things out
<survi> dignifiedquire: the link uses "go get", but I want to use the tagged version (non-development) to build the binary. And the Makefile always fails me...
<whyrusleeping> survi: cd $GOPATH/src/github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs
<multivac> whyrusleeping: 2015-11-22 - 13:28:04 <daviddias> ask whyrusleeping why `ipfs log tail` is so slow //cc dignifiedquire
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<dignifiedquire> survi: that link just pulls down master from github, so if you want to build a tagged version you need to cd into go-ipfs and run git checkout <tag> and build afterwards
<whyrusleeping> daviddias: what do you mean log tail is slow?
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: it takes sometimes > 10s to respond, and sometimes it doesn’t even respond after > 1min
<dignifiedquire> (cli + api)
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<dignifiedquire> but after restarting the daemon the first call is fast again, and after becomes slow again
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<Not_> how can i pin an upload?
<Not_> and is it possible to give it a name so on my files list i know what is what?
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<whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: interesting... mind filing an issue?
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: sure will do
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<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: done https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/1996
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<whyrusleeping> thanks!
<whyrusleeping> still trying to figure out why the close notify stuff isnt working
<whyrusleeping> going down a giant rabbit hole of cleaning up the main.go and client.go code
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to wip/fix-close-notify: http://git.io/vBUqY
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/wip/fix-close-notify 6a9c805 Jeromy: un-concurrent-ify request code...
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