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<ianopolous> M-rschulman: I guess you could say I'm working on one (Peergos) Though we haven't quite switched in IPFS yet.
<M-rschulman> Thanks for the pointer, ianopolous
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<davidar> lgierth (IRC): ok
<lgierth> davidar: also, doing anything on sirius right now?
<lgierth> i wanna clean it up and try registry-mirror there
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<davidar> lgierth (IRC): yeah, wget'ing stuff on Sirius atm
<lgierth> oh ok
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<lgierth> davidar: sure you're wget'ing stuff? it was out of space until a minute ago
<davidar> lgierth (IRC): hrm, let me check
<lgierth> i'm freeing up ~90G at the moment
<davidar> lgierth: yeah, it's still going
<lgierth> weird
<lgierth> rootfs went to 0 at around ~21:50 UTC
<davidar> lgierth: I told it to ignore errors, so it probably just kept going anyway :p
<lgierth> yeah ;)
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<lgierth> davidar: repo gc incoming on sirius
<lgierth> oh that was boring, 2 blocks removed
<davidar> lol
<lgierth> i guess the bulk is in the homes
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<davidar> probably
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<lgierth> spinning disks, y u so slow
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<mercurytw> how many people here use the cli for ipfs more frequently than the webui?
<alu> me
<alu> I'm hooked on CLI for everything
<lgierth> <-
<mercurytw> if you don't mind me asking, what do you usually use it for?
<alu> lets just say I never used the ipfs webui
<mercurytw> i mean ipfs in general
<alu> Oh
<alu> rapid prototyping VR websites / content
<lgierth> i share the occasional screenshot
<mercurytw> ok so webhosting
<lgierth> github.com/jbenet/ipfs-screencap
<mercurytw> ^ yeah I've been trying to use ipfs as a replacement for imgur :)
<alu> doesn that screenshot become permanent then?
<lgierth> and i operate a dozen ipfs nodes so for ops and debugging too
<lgierth> alu: nah, it gets gc'ed eventually
<lgierth> unless i pin it somewhere
<alu> I haven't pinned anything yet
<mercurytw> I saw an article (that davidar was in) that talked about the word "permanent" being somewhat misleading
<alu> i gotta learn that
<alu> yeah, I think of IPFS as this swarm of bees
<davidar> mercurytw (IRC): I was in an article? :/
<lgierth> mercurytw: permanence is really more about links and names, than about permanent storage
<mercurytw> err not an article... some discussion thread
<alu> hive mind
<lgierth> the permanent storage is a welcome side effect
<davidar> mercurytw (IRC): oh, HN probably
<mercurytw> yeah that's it
<davidar> yeah
<davidar> permanent = non-temporary
<lgierth> now you got me confused
<mercurytw> i think "distributed, self-describing" would be a better description
<lgierth> let me take another tryu
<mercurytw> hrmm "ipfs is a massively-decentralized, self-describing web"
<lgierth> data in ipfs is permanent in that it doesn't have an origin, so it won't go down if the origin shuts down (e.g. geocities0
<lgierth> every node that is interested in something, keeps it available for themselves and the network
<mercurytw> ha it was a different thread on the same site
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<lgierth> davidar: anything you can remove on sirius? maybe a repo gc?
<mercurytw> @alu, how do you deal with changes in your web design? If you need to tweak, say, a CSS, does the whole thing need to have it's links patched?
<davidar> lgierth: gc'ing...
<lgierth> mercurytw: you relative links
<lgierth> *use
<lgierth> thanks davidar
<mercurytw> oh and you upload the whole folder rather than peice-by-peice
<davidar> lgierth: not sure if it's doing anything, just seems to be hanging :/
<lgierth> davidar: yeah it walks all blocks first to see what can be evicted
<mercurytw> let's say that I opened a folder that contains node.js, and one of my peers opens another folder containing the same node.js. Can he get node.js from me?
<lgierth> mercurytw: if it's the exact same file, yeah
<lgierth> i.e. if the sha256sum matches
<mercurytw> even if it was uploaded in a different folder?
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<lgierth> yeah
<mercurytw> neat
<lgierth> it even deduplicates chunks of a file
<mercurytw> oh word
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<mercurytw> is there any trouble with collisions?
<lgierth> nope
<mercurytw> no? I was under the impression that collisionless hashes don't exist?
<lgierth> but once weaknesses in an algorithm are published, we can relatively easily switch to a different on , check out github.com/jbenet/multihash
<alu> dunno
<mercurytw> i see
<alu> i patch the links and it feels brutal and probably theres a better way to do it
<alu> like pinning it to a hash and then just updating that
<alu> like git
<lgierth> davidar: oh and on pollux too pls :)
<lgierth> alu: tried IPNS yet?
<mercurytw> enterprise security companies are going to hate this thing
<alu> no ii havent thats what i been missing in my workflow lgierth
<lgierth> it might still be too slow for you
<lgierth> we'll get to it
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<davidar> lgierth: I think pollux is mostly full of the arxiv and pubmed dumps
<davidar> (not even in ipfs yet :/ )
<davidar> arxiv because licenses
<lgierth> davidar: lol i just found an old openwrt mirror on pollux
<lgierth> 650G
<lgierth> rm'd
<davidar> pubmed because ipfs add performance
<davidar> lol
<davidar> I thought you already deleted that?
<lgierth> :)
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<lgierth> didn't i tell you i actually don't have any idea what i'm doing? :P:P
<lgierth> davidar: i'll put dev0.4.0 on pollux and sirius in a bit so that add performance will hopefully be a bit better
<lgierth> rht and why worked on that
<lgierth> *are workign
<lgierth> ok let me fool around on pollux a bit
<lgierth> davidar: you can directly add to the ipfs node on 127.0.0.1:5001 on all the storage nodes, btw
<lgierth> i'm note sure anymore what the problem was in the beginning, but it's fine now
<lgierth> echo /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/5001 > ~/.ipfs/api
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<davidar> lgierth (IRC): will do
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<pokeball99> what is ipfsbot about?
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<computerfreak668> anyone know howto dissable non important messages?
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<computerfreak668> im using pidgin ..
<computerfreak668> idc if anyone quits and stuff ..
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<NeoTeo> Since last night my ipns won't resolve although it does so locally. Is something up with the ipfs.io gateway?
<NeoTeo> Basically just getting a "Path Resolve error: could not resolve name."
<alterego> NeoTeo: when was the last time you published the name? They expire after some time.
<NeoTeo> It's probably been a couple of days. I need to explicitly republish it at regular intervals?
<alterego> Yes
<alterego> I think something like 24 hours,
<alterego> Though maybe it's 48 hours, but you need to republish none-the-less :)
<NeoTeo> alterego Ok, thanks. I'll try that :)
<NeoTeo> \o/ That worked.
<alterego> :)
<NeoTeo> Guess I better write me a script to do that.
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<computerfreak668> u could use ipfsd to have the daemon added to cron, there u could add the republish script too ;)
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<ion> NeoTeo, alterego: ipfs daemon does a periodic republish automatically these days.
<ion> “the daemon added to cron”, eww
<NeoTeo> ion How periodic? Republishing fixed the problem so it seems the republish interval is longer than the gateway purge interval.
<ion> NeoTeo: The go-ipfs DHT keeps entries for 24 hours AFAIK, the daemon republishes more often than that.
<NeoTeo> ion I guess mine took a break...
<ion> You’re running the latest release, right?
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<NeoTeo> well, 0.3.10-dev
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<nicolagreco> I want to do something that maybe wrong in IPFS, I want folders to also hold data, is it possible? so for example /ipfs/${hash}/folder (will have some data) /ipfs/${hash}/folder/file will have some data /ipfs/${hash}/folder/file/why_not will have some data too (so that there is no real distinction between file and folders (everything could be a folder)) - although I know this breaks the filesystem very likely - this is however what the index.html has d
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<aschildbach> I wonder has anyone tried or investigated into dumping OSM map tiles into IPFS and using that as an distributed OSM server (mainly for mobile clients)?
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<dignifiedquire> .tell dignifiedquire test
<multivac> You can tell yourself that.
<multivac> dignifiedquire: 2015-11-28 - 17:12:56 <ion> tell dignifiedquire https://github.com/codemix/babel-plugin-typecheck
<dignifiedquire> multivac: good to hear your voice :)
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<dignifiedquire> ion: thanks, that looks intereseting
<M-fil> aschildbach: I'm interested to test try if you like
<wao> ipscend rules!
<wao> daviddias: awsome! :D
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<aschildbach> M-fil: thanks for your offer. Do you mean you'd implement it?
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<daviddias> Thank you Wao :D
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<M-fil> no because I don't see how it would be optimal, as we can't know the url of a tile beforehand
<M-fil> i thought you had an idea :p
<M-fil> saving tiles to ipfs doesn't seem to be a problem, but content-addressing slippy maps is a problem
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<aschildbach> At least that was my impression of how it could work, based on the demo video.
<aschildbach> In case you didn't get it, I just wrote: "Oh actually I don't know much about IPFS works. I thought I could hardcode a base URL in the app(s) that want to use maps and then publish a dump of an open street map server under that URL."
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<pokeball99> well,thats new,someone is being an peer from chile
<pokeball99> hah
<M-fil> ok — IPFS is content-adressable, meaning that you would have to read in tiles for the whole world before using them… slippy maps do the opposite (they send predictable URLs such as server.tld/z/x/y.png, and server.tld must create (and cache) each tile upon request
<pokeball99> wat
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<nicolagreco> daviddias ipscend does indeed look very cool
<nicolagreco> daviddias I wonder if you could also show me the diff like in git
<daviddias> Thank you :)
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<daviddias> We are Planning to have that once we land versioning on IPFS
<daviddias> Because then we can do per commit preview :)
<nicolagreco> exactly daviddias
<nicolagreco> perfect, very exciting to see how you progress
<daviddias> And revert the release directly to a commit
<daviddias> It will be so awesome :D
<wao> :D
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* wao used semver at api level )
<wao> quite works, no more x-headers :D
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<pokeball99> >IPFS uses a "multihash" format, meaning the hashed have the hash function and length encoded as part of the hash ... aka, they can change the format whenever without breaking compatibility
<pokeball99> >Wouldn't that also defeat dedup of the same data across the whole swarm?
<pokeball99> idk would it?
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<NeoTeo> Weird, botbot.me stopped logging this channel a couple of days ago.
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<daviddias> (the lead for each endeavour will order and prioritise discussion)
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<daviddias> Just opened the issue for tomorrow's sprint sync ups, please add your Questions, Updates, Contributions or something you would like to discuss to each meeting specific agenda
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