<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2012: introduce low memory flag (dev0.4.0...feat/low-mem-experiment) http://git.io/vBKwn
<whyrusleeping>
Confiks: why is ipns too hairy right now?
<whyrusleeping>
too slow?
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<Confiks>
No, I haven't actually tried it. It seems neat to use it for object discovery per peer (although I don't see how to do it without polling).
<Confiks>
It opens a ton of complexity, and just Dialing a peer seems so much simpeler.
<Confiks>
(so polling: Peer A publishes a brand-new object on an interval, and peer B wants to know which objects A has produced, so it can retrieve it)
<Confiks>
(and publishing here is more like having available)
<Confiks>
(Peer A could publish all available objects on an IPNS name (or subdirectory thereof), and B would need to poll the DHT periodically on the name.)
<Confiks>
Either what's in those stupid parentheses, or directly Dialing a peer and 'pushing' the object id.
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<whyrusleeping>
ah, fair enough
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<Confiks>
So if you create a listener with corenet's Listen, and you Accept a connect, is there assurance that the RemotePeer has given a valid proof of knowledge of a private key, and the PeerID is the hash of the corresponding private key?
<Confiks>
public key*
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<Confiks>
So without -vvv: Is the ownership of the PeerID verified?
<Confiks>
It would be another answer to the question "How is [IPFS Dial] better than the net package?" in the 'Roll you own IPFS' example.
<alu>
ehh?
<alu>
i read about tors ephemeral hidden services
<alu>
reminded me a lot of onionshare by micah
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] rht pushed 1 new commit to hotfix/auto-gc: http://git.io/vBKXw
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/hotfix/auto-gc 4a1043b rht: Remove the err brake from PeriodicGC...
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<harlan_>
I plan to set up an IPFS node on Circle CI which has a consistent keypair, so it can sign IPNS records. The node will be ephemeral; created fresh on each build. My plan so far is to use https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfsd-ctl to spin up a node, and set the public/private key from environment variables stored within Circle CI. Sound good? Better ways to do any of this?
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<mercurytw>
is it possible to change the log location of the ipfs daemon?
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<harlan_>
can someone pin this hash to ipfs.io plz? QmYShjC6KjVPns2AuY77rbDPL1XEygWEo2485r9qL6EYTc -- it's now linked to in the dataviz readme: https://github.com/ipfs/dataviz
<computerfreak668>
just run install sh on ubuntu , works
<Stskeeps>
krl: noticed your https://github.com/krl/ipfs-crdts .. is that meant to be distributed, as in, multiple clients against a common object?
<mercurytw>
thanks computerfreak. Can you run a "which service" in a shell and tell me if you have that command?
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<mercurytw>
nvm im a moron
<mercurytw>
I just improved the cronjob's compatibility. if you're interested in actually using this then I suggest pulling and rerunning the installer
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<M-davidar>
mercurytw: cool, it'd be great if these init scripts (I believe there's another one floating around somewhere) could make their way into the official distribution somewhere
<M-davidar>
bah, why do people have to leave so soon after talking? :/
<mercurytw>
Im still here
<mercurytw>
I'd be happy for bossman whyrusleeping to integrate it
<mercurytw>
he's already got one for osx it seems
<M-davidar>
mercurytw: you could try submitting an issue/PR?
<mercurytw>
sure
<M-davidar>
cool
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<mercurytw>
are you running linux davidar?
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<M-davidar>
mercurytw: yeah (ubuntu)
<mercurytw>
ah okay. I just had someone with ubuntu give my script a test drive, but feel free to check it out yourself
<mercurytw>
if you can read bash script I'd be happy to get a second pair of eyes on it tbh
<mercurytw>
im running fedora myself
<mercurytw>
I use RHEL at work, so it's convenient to come home to a similar flavor
<mercurytw>
used to use ubuntu though
<computerfreak668>
sry was shopping
<computerfreak668>
which service gives me /usr/sbin/service
<computerfreak668>
u u said i should git clone again right?
<computerfreak668>
im a bit of noob: i already have the 'program' installed, howto easy replace it with new version?
<computerfreak668>
mercurytw: is there more to do with this or is its only purpose to get an ipfs daemon running forever? :)
<mercurytw>
if you already have service then you're set actually :)
<mercurytw>
this should get your ipfs daemon running "forever"
<mercurytw>
it should start when your computer starts up, and if ipfs daemon crashes for whatever reason, it'll automagically be restarted within 5 minutes
<computerfreak668>
ok coll script, usefull :)
<mercurytw>
you can check to see if it's running like so:
<mercurytw>
service ipfsd status
<mercurytw>
actually you'll need sudo
<mercurytw>
sudo service ipfsd status
<computerfreak668>
damn no service :/
<mercurytw>
no?
<mercurytw>
oh i think you need to start it manually the first time
<mercurytw>
try
<computerfreak668>
unrecognized service
<mercurytw>
oh hm
<mercurytw>
did it install properly?
<kpcyrd>
computerfreak668: which init system do you use?
<kpcyrd>
/usr/sbin/service can mean a lot of things
<mercurytw>
ah
<computerfreak668>
init.d
<kpcyrd>
ls -la /etc/init.d/ipfsd
<computerfreak668>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2247 Nov 28 09:52 /etc/init.d/ipfsd
<kpcyrd>
hm, that should work..
<mercurytw>
try this
<mercurytw>
sudo /etc/init.d/ipfsd start
<computerfreak668>
already tested, same result
<mercurytw>
what's it say?
<computerfreak668>
unrecognized service
<mercurytw>
really...
<computerfreak668>
installer said it should be included in $PATH
<mercurytw>
oh
<mercurytw>
can you do this for me
<mercurytw>
which ipfs
<computerfreak668>
no i mean the output said that it was added , but its not available
<computerfreak668>
also sudo ./ipfsd start
<computerfreak668>
gives me no permission ?
<mercurytw>
no permission
<mercurytw>
hm
<computerfreak668>
for .ipfs/api
<computerfreak668>
oh maybe i need to compile latest go-implementation?
<mercurytw>
oh
<mercurytw>
can you run ipfs daemon normally?
<mercurytw>
just run
<mercurytw>
ipfs daemon
<computerfreak668>
ok
<mercurytw>
and see if it works
<computerfreak668>
that works
<mercurytw>
well then you shouldn't need the latest go implementation
<mercurytw>
can you give me the exact output when you run sudo /etc/init.d/ipfsd start
<mercurytw>
awesome dude. Thanks for being a guinea pig
<mercurytw>
sorry that was such a pita
<computerfreak668>
hehe
<computerfreak668>
i love this open-source community pretty much
<computerfreak668>
the world should work offline the same, get rid of capitalism :P
<mercurytw>
lol
<mercurytw>
I'll add a reminder for myself to tweak the installer so it'll follow the steps we just described if you choose to do so
<mercurytw>
so you can have a true daemon mode and a personal use mode like what you have
<computerfreak668>
yeah sounds great
<mercurytw>
if you want to get that daemon user off your computer you can do this
<mercurytw>
sudo userdel ipfsd
<mercurytw>
sudo rm -rf /ipfsd
<mercurytw>
but it shouldn't do any harm just sitting there
<mercurytw>
personally, i have ipfsd running as a daemon on a headless server
<computerfreak668>
well maybe i wanna change to web api later ;)
<computerfreak668>
this computer is just testing
<mercurytw>
I tweaked the config file so I can use the webui from any computer in my LAN, and when I want files i just upload them there
<computerfreak668>
in the end i wanna have a qt-programm :P
<mercurytw>
haha GUIs are really annoying to program
<mercurytw>
or maybe not annoying... just boring
<computerfreak668>
why is this?
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<computerfreak668>
cant i just 'draw some buttons' and link the comands to it ? (easy speaking)
<mercurytw>
it's just tedious work, and it's not challenging or particularly interesting
<rendar>
computerfreak668: a qt program for ipfs?
<mercurytw>
you have to make sure everything looks nice, and the window resizes properly, and so forth
<mercurytw>
lots of massaging numbers
<computerfreak668>
ok i understand so this is just for comercial use xD
<mercurytw>
yep.
<computerfreak668>
rendar: well i dream of a sync software based on ipfs ..
<mercurytw>
youll say "oh maybe it should be 52 pixels wide." close. change the variable. Build. launch the program. open it up. "Hmmm.. maybe 57 pixels?" etc
<computerfreak668>
but than i read furthe rinto the protocol
<mercurytw>
you could maybe mix samba and a mounted ipfs
<computerfreak668>
ipfs is not maidsafe/storj
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<computerfreak668>
i really like the idea to farm computing power/storage/bandwith for ''mining'' some coins , and users can spend coins to get storage
<mercurytw>
you mean filecoin?
<mercurytw>
:)
<mercurytw>
I'm really excited for that too
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<computerfreak668>
well that could be implemented but i think it bigger
<computerfreak668>
like combining many blockchains
<computerfreak668>
so there is a ''public'' ledger and unlimited ''private'' ledgers so u dont need to spend the miners if u have your own nodes
<computerfreak668>
or wanna rent from cheaper nodes than ''public''
<mercurytw>
ah i see
<computerfreak668>
also private ledgers could be local, so your data can be theoretical accessed if the internet gets shutdown
<mercurytw>
write it :)
<mercurytw>
with the digital currency industry, you could make millions
<computerfreak668>
well i rly wanna do it, jut need to learn more about qt ;)
<mercurytw>
especially if you beat whyrusleeping to the punch :P
<computerfreak668>
im not interested in money btw
<mercurytw>
give it to me then
<computerfreak668>
xD
<mercurytw>
lol I'll put it to good use
<mercurytw>
that way it won't tempt you into corruption
<computerfreak668>
u cant make money if u dont premine, just if u setup nodes and get good rates :P
<mercurytw>
I'll erect a statue in your honor on my mansion
<mercurytw>
i had a terrible netgear modem/router combo that kept tipping over whenever it had the slightest amount of load
<mercurytw>
I finally have stable internet
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<computerfreak668>
what do u got now? fritzbox?
<computerfreak668>
my ISP fucks me so hard.. 1,3 mbits and every 3 weeks 15 min sync fails and stuff ..
<mercurytw>
i got the asus ac1900
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<mercurytw>
i have 988 down and 9 up
<mercurytw>
over wifi :)
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<mercurytw>
lool
<mercurytw>
*98 down
<mercurytw>
yeah I was pissed at my ISP before until I realized it was just bufferbloat
<mercurytw>
it was so bad before. I'd be on a skype call and my wife would open up a streaming video and boom the router would be resetting
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<computerfreak668>
oh shit
<computerfreak668>
i always had fritz box router only, never had problems
<computerfreak668>
only isp in austria is rly hard ..
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<computerfreak668>
haaha they blocked kinox.to :P
<mercurytw>
what's that?
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<computerfreak668>
a streaming site
<mercurytw>
ever consider getting a proxy service?
<mercurytw>
hmm I wonder if you could use ipfs as a proxying system
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<computerfreak668>
hehe well i know howto bypass, it was just a statement how ''stupid'' the isp is ;)
<computerfreak668>
well, too bad filecoin still uses proof of work and not proof of stake or proof of retrievability with proof of importance or such algo ..
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<computerfreak668>
Austria =/ Australia
<computerfreak668>
i used nVpn, was nice to pay with bitcoin
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<computerfreak668>
someone know a way how i could import qt-quick 2.3 on my ubuntu 14.04? it just supports 2.2 currently, now i cant build the ipfs qt-gui :/
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<computerfreak668>
wow i jus found a solution :D
<computerfreak668>
i now have qt 5.5 installed and everything works fine now
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<M-davidar>
computerfreak668 (IRC): there's an ipfs Qt gui?
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<computerfreak668>
yes
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<computerfreak668>
under developement
<computerfreak668>
#arbore
<M-davidar>
oh, right
<mercurytw>
is there any push to make a gateway pool like ntp has?
<M-davidar>
I'd forgotten about that
<M-davidar>
mercurytw (IRC): ipfs.io has a DNS round robin
<zaggynl>
doh, I read australia, my bad
<mercurytw>
can I join it?
<M-davidar>
mercurytw (IRC): no, only official ones
<mercurytw>
I really only understand the big mac index
<davidar>
mercurytw: big macs are like $5 here :/
<computerfreak668>
well this system wil ldestroy our planet if it continues to rule the politics
<mercurytw>
$5.11
<mercurytw>
usd
<davidar>
huh, always thought US was way cheaper than that
<mercurytw>
it might just be my state
<mercurytw>
let me look somewhere cheaper
<mercurytw>
$4.15 in north carolina
<mercurytw>
usd
<mercurytw>
but taco bell is where it's at
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<mercurytw>
you can eat for a dollar and feel full
<mercurytw>
if you're trying to save money
<computerfreak668>
germans stop buying big macs generally ;)
<mercurytw>
anyway I need to get to sleep before the sun comes up or I'll hate myself
<mercurytw>
gnight all
<davidar>
night
<computerfreak668>
gn8
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<ianopolous>
G'day everyone. People might be interested in a merkle-btree I've implemented: https://github.com/ianopolous/merkle-btree It is hash function agnostic and cleans up it's objects as it is modified. It's designed to be backed by IPFS.
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<ion>
Nice
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<lgierth>
davidar: just pin it :)
<lgierth>
it'll go fetch it, once it's finished unpin on the source node
<multivac>
ion: I'll pass that on when dignifiedquire is around.
<ion>
Oh, lgierth was running a different command above.
<lgierth>
ahk
<lgierth>
.tell harlan pinned
<multivac>
lgierth: I'll pass that on when harlan is around.
<lgierth>
all these bots with their different syntaxes
<ion>
yeah :-\
<ion>
Today I ran an .addquote on one channel and a different !addquote on another. Turns out I remembered both bots’ syntaxes incorrectly, the right commands were !addquote and .addquote respectively. :-)
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<lgierth>
davidar: you there?
<lgierth>
davidar: hold off on castor for a bit
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<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs-api] diasdavid deleted chai at 3bd6788: http://git.io/vBXOZ
<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vBXOr
<ipfsbot>
js-ipfs-api/master 704e358 David Dias: Release v2.9.12.
<ipfsbot>
[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #107: Update ipfs-api to version 2.9.12
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quit
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<alterego>
Is there a way to execute an ipfs object put in a dry run? Without actually creating the object, just returning the hash?
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<achin>
ipfs add --only-hash
<achin>
not sure about put, though
<alterego>
achin: That'll do, thanks :)
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<M-rschulman>
Has anyone built the dropbox-killer on top of IPFS yet?
<alu>
neat idea
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<xelra>
M-rschulman: There is something in the making that you might find useful for collaborative work and backups, called ipfs-cluster.
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<SebastianCB>
hi guys, have been using windows, just switched to ubuntu so this question might be stupid:
<SebastianCB>
i installed ipfs, everything seems running well but i am missing all example files
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<SebastianCB>
any clue what might have gone wrong there?
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<SebastianCB>
i did an ipfs init
<SebastianCB>
and then ipfs cat /ipfs/QmVtU7ths96fMgZ8YSZAbKghyieq7AjxNdcqyVzxTt3qVe/readme
<SebastianCB>
(i did this in my home)
<SebastianCB>
e.g. ./about is not there
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<SebastianCB>
ah ok, just found out that ./ is referring to the ipfs hash... then i found the files