<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] lgierth created remove-jenkins (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vEOhe
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/remove-jenkins 993cf6a Lars Gierth: ci: remove dead jenkins code...
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] lgierth opened pull request #2114: ci: remove dead jenkins code (master...remove-jenkins) http://git.io/vEOhv
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] lgierth closed pull request #1975: placeholder pr to rerun the test on djdv path parser pr (master...djdv) http://git.io/v4XuL
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] lgierth closed pull request #1806: change Dockerfile order to create VOLUME under user ipfs (master...1804_ipfs_volume) http://git.io/vcNup
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<Qwertie>
How long does gateway.ipfs.io store files?
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<tperson>
Varies
<tperson>
Last I heard the GC runs when disk capacity gets low.
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<Kubuxu>
lgierth: With 0 Go knowledge I've fixed it.
<Kubuxu>
I will ask few questions when I create PR, if you have nothing against it.
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu opened pull request #2116: namesys: Make paths with multiple segemnts work. Fixes #2059 (master...fix/#2059) http://git.io/vEsAe
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<dignifiedquire>
good morning everyone
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<mrflibble>
Hi guys! this sounds great, and similar to freenet without the anonymity
<mrflibble>
I'm trying to run a node, but I'm having problems changing the datastore directory
<mrflibble>
I've tried changing it via the webgui and also editing the config file, but the change seems to be ignored, even after restarting the daemon
<mrflibble>
what am I missing?
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<The_8472>
there's an environment variable
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<mrflibble>
oh?
<The_8472>
i think it's in the help somewhere
<tperson>
I'm not even sure if you can move the datastore around independent of the .ipfs directory.
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<mrflibble>
hmm, any clue where? I can only see a mention of $EDITOR, nothing else
<mrflibble>
that's a shame
<The_8472>
ipfs help
<mrflibble>
can i move .ipfs completely to another directory?
<tperson>
Yes
<mrflibble>
that would be preferable actually. right now it tries to use c:\users\username\.ipfs, which isn't ideal
<tperson>
You can use IPFS_PATH to change where it looks
<mrflibble>
ah great, i'll try that now...
<mrflibble>
great! yes, that looks better
<mrflibble>
yes, the clue was at the bottom of the ipfs help :)
<mrflibble>
it wasn't immediately obvious
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<The_8472>
was obvious to me when i saw it :P
<mrflibble>
does that mean that right now, the config file isn't editable? I want to change the DS size from 10gb
<mrflibble>
sorry, ive' only been using this for 20mins, and i thought editing "config" was the most obvious way....
<tperson>
Looks like a bug for why you can't change the datastore path
<mrflibble>
i was just about to raise an issue, but you've done a better job :)
<Kubuxu>
tperson: ok, I was having problems navigating the codebase but it has probably two reasons: 1. I don't know Go, I can read it and even write in it but I don't know all quirks 2. I don't know codebase.
<Kubuxu>
Still symbol cross-reference would be useful.
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<tperson>
Kubuxu: I use vim with a few plugins plus spot/ack/find/grep
<mrflibble>
should ipfs connect to peers through NAT without needing inbound port forwarding?
<mrflibble>
At the moment it's been running for about 30mins, but has 0 connections listed in the webgui
<mrflibble>
(and my test to get cat.jpg doesn't seem to be doing much)
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<fazo>
mrflibble: yes, it should work even without inbound connections and get at least fifty or so connections.
<mrflibble>
hmm
<fazo>
maybe your firewall is really evil and blocking outbound connections to port 4001 (which is the port most nodes use for inbound connections)
<mrflibble>
all outbound ports are allowed
<fazo>
you can try manually connecting to a node with "ipfs swarm connect <multiaddr>"
<fazo>
if you want I can give you a multiaddr you can try
<tperson>
Does ipfs swarm peers list anything?
<tperson>
`ipfs swarm peers`
<fazo>
sometimes people complain that the daemon is too heavy on NATs (which is true) but my 18€ (about 20 USD) router manages to keep up three nodes, each getting more than 100 connections in less than 1 minute after it starts (most are inbound since there's upnp)
<fazo>
and my modem can't get more than 20 KB/s upload bandwidth.
<The_8472>
fazo, it always depends on the the nat configuration. mainly timeouts and table entry limits. if i had control over mine i'd tweak it accordingly... but provider-owned router's NAT + CGNAT = no options
<fazo>
yeah I know about that
<fazo>
technically my router is also locked down. But it has a DMZ option and I can turn off wifi, so I connected my own router in series.
<The_8472>
and it's not just the steady state (open connections), also the transient ones
<The_8472>
doesn't help with CGNAT
<fazo>
I wouldn't be surprised if the daemon couldn't handle wonky connections
<fazo>
I guess when we start running js-ipfs in browsers, it'll need to handle that
<mrflibble>
yes, ipfs swarn peers lists about 100
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<mrflibble>
fazo - could i try connecting to a multiaddr?
<fazo>
yeah, I can give you a list of addrs I'm connected to
<tperson>
no, only certain hashes are allowed to be served over 5001
<mrflibble>
I get 7 results, matching /ipsf/QmSoL......
<mrflibble>
ah ok
<tperson>
You'll want to use 8080 to see the cat pic
<mrflibble>
ok
<mrflibble>
ah, that worked :)
<tperson>
5001 is privilaged and the port for the API. So to view the webui you need to go through 5001, but all other gateway traffic is on 8080
<mrflibble>
gotcha
<mrflibble>
do u think I should try any get 0.4.0 running before I go much further?
<fazo>
there's very few people using 0.4 because it hasn't been released yet
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<fazo>
the people who use it are mostly developing cool stuff that requires 0.4 to work, like what I am doing: boards.ydns.eu
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<mrflibble>
ooh, nice :) is that similar to what diaspora was trying to achieve?
<fazo>
yeah :) this though has some differences
<fazo>
for example diaspora is decentralized, not distributed. This one is actually distributed
<mrflibble>
gotcha
<fazo>
also diaspora has a very strong social focus, this one is a more simple platform, it's more meant as a way to share files, folders, posts, other data
<mrflibble>
I joined a diaspora node, but it closed without warning - even though I had donated some money, which I was a bit annoyed about :(
<mrflibble>
cool
<fazo>
then, using the app, you can view said data and decide to seed it. If you want you can leave comments and allow other people to post on your boards
<mrflibble>
I look forward to that!
<fazo>
every single piece of information is stored on ipfs, even the app itself :) in fact you can see that the site I linked is a normal IPFS gateway
<mrflibble>
nice!
<Kubuxu>
fazo: how fast is IPNS in 0.4?
<fazo>
I'm very close to something that really works, but I'll need another few months for it to be stable enough to be more than a prototype
<fazo>
Kubuxu: a little bit faster, but the problem is that records expire after 24h so you need to republish often
<fazo>
I think you can configure your go-ipfs node to automatically republish. But I'm not sure
<mrflibble>
great!
<fazo>
mrfibble: yeah the current thing I'm working on is getting it to be more user friendly and making it work without having go-ipfs installed (of course it would be read only)
<Kubuxu>
I wanted to host my blog via IPFS/NS but the NS part is slow. I know that DHT is hard but here is some idea:
<mrflibble>
i see
<fazo>
Kubuxu: there's a trick you can use
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<Kubuxu>
fazo: care to share?
<fazo>
if you get a free dns from some provider like ydns.eu you can make your dns point to the latest version of your blog
<Kubuxu>
I have my own DNS.
<Kubuxu>
And I could just use /ipfs/ dnslink
<fazo>
cool. you can set a TXT record to dnslink=/ipfs/<whatever>
<fazo>
yeah that was the trick lol
<Kubuxu>
I will probably do that
<fazo>
of if you have a computer on all the time, as soon as 0.4 hits you'll be able to use IPNS. If it republishes often, it should be reliable.
<Kubuxu>
What if IPNS had two stage cache: long lasting and short. The long would be used when short one expired (it is currently a minute?) so some response is intimidate but at the same time that is update of it performed and written to the long and short one.
<mrflibble>
Is there a public list of hashes play with? - apart from the cute cat :)
<Kubuxu>
mrflibble: what do you mean, public list of files?
<mrflibble>
yes, that kind of thing, or an index
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<Kubuxu>
I didn't hear about any and this is idea that I had going around for a while.
<Kubuxu>
Writing it down as we speak.
<Kubuxu>
Is there any way to check how available hash/blocks are in the network?
<mrflibble>
cool
<Kubuxu>
eg. I have list of hashes (not mine) and I want to ping ones that might die soon?
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<mrflibble>
thanks for your help guys
<mrflibble>
i'm going afk now. I'll need to portforward stuff in my router once i remember the password ;)
<mrflibble>
I'll have a play with IPFS later, but I'll leave it running to see what happens.
<someguy99>
I want to build my own merkle dags, I've made progress using the command line client, but now want to build them in python, using the HTTP API
<fazo>
cool so it's there
<fazo>
dignifiedquire: would you also happen to know about the read only api on the gateway in 0.4? lgierth told me it's there but I can't use it :( it works on 0.3.10 though
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<someguy99>
It's still unclear, I tried /object/put?arg=(the data)
<someguy99>
that fails
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<someguy99>
is the command meant to be a GET?
<dignifiedquire>
someguy99: yes needs to be get
<dignifiedquire>
fazo: I’m afraid I haven’t looked at that yet
<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: hrm, okay. i'll have to take a closer look at what its up to
<whyrusleeping>
pjz: yes
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: but not the pointed-to blocks, right?
<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: thanks
<whyrusleeping>
pjz: 'ipfs refs <hash>' will fetch just <hash>
<whyrusleeping>
but 'ipfs refs -r <hash>' will fetch hash and everything below it
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<pjz>
whyrusleeping: oh? hmm.
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: so once you've done a local 'ipfs refs -r <hash>', a pin of the same hash should be instantaneous?
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: since the first one took the big download hit?
<whyrusleeping>
pjz: yep!
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<whyrusleeping>
on 0.3.* it might not be instantaneous because it actually writes a pin entry for every subhash
<whyrusleeping>
but on 0.4.0 it should be just the time it takes to verify every block below the given hash is local
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: hmm, okay
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<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: I would just like to thank you and other devs of IPFS. You are doing awesome work and I, as a random guy from the internet, would like to say that I really appreciate it.
<Kubuxu>
and merry Christmas
<fazo>
whyrusleeping: woah what did you do to 0.4? :) merry christmas!
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<fazo>
I agree with Kubuxu. This development community is the best I've ever seen and you are all awesome.
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<fazo>
I never see hostility to dumb questions
<pjz>
there are no dumb questions, just insufficient documentation :)
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<whyrusleeping>
thanks guys :) thats really great to hear.
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<whyrusleeping>
ill pass it along to everyone else
<whyrusleeping>
pjz: right on the dot
<whyrusleeping>
if you have to ask a noob question its because we didnt do a good job making things easy enough to use
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: okay, so how long does ipfs retry on a hash before giving up if it can't find it?
<whyrusleeping>
pjz: uhm...
<whyrusleeping>
it depends on the command
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<whyrusleeping>
i think we have a default timeout set of like, 30 seconds
<whyrusleeping>
but every command accepts a --timeout option
<whyrusleeping>
so you can specify yourself
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: oh! nice
<whyrusleeping>
--timeout=60m
<whyrusleeping>
--timeout=heatDeathOfTheUniverse
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<whyrusleeping>
i should actually make that last one a thing...
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<pjz>
--timeout=4294967295
<ogzy>
what s the purpose of integrating cjdns and ipfs, i am reading about cjdns and saw an issue at ipfs issues, how will be the ipfs working with cjdns?
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: I think 'never' is a better synonym for that :)
<Kubuxu>
ogzy: it is working, just uses cjdns as any link
<Kubuxu>
some optimizations could be made.
<whyrusleeping>
ogzy: i think the idea is that we would integrate cjdns directly into our p2p networking stack
<whyrusleeping>
we really like what they are doing
<Kubuxu>
eg. in cjdns you could drop crypto between peers
<whyrusleeping>
yeah, and we get free NAT traversal
<whyrusleeping>
(although i think our NAT traversal is better ;) )
<Kubuxu>
in cjdns we just don't do NAT traversal :p
<Kubuxu>
behind NAT, just create outgoing connections to your peers.
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: if I run 'ipfs refs -r <hash>' (which is going to take hours b/c it's fetching a couple gigs) and then I kill that client process... will the server still fetch it?
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<whyrusleeping>
uhm... probably not?
<whyrusleeping>
it might right now
<whyrusleeping>
but thats only because of a bug
<whyrusleeping>
i see what youre looking for... and maybe it could be done with a special flag
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: so the client has to hang out and wait for the response?
<whyrusleeping>
yes
<tperson>
ipfs --detach aka I don't care about the response.
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: I'm okay with whatever behavior, it's just unclear to me what the current/desired behavior is
<tperson>
Would be neat
<whyrusleeping>
tperson: yeah, that would be pretty cool
<whyrusleeping>
would have to have a way to disable it though, i don't want people to be able to start that on the gateways
<whyrusleeping>
pjz: yeah, client waits for response
<whyrusleeping>
there are no 'asynchronous' commands
<pjz>
whyrusleeping: well, the import part is that, yeah, the server will *stop* if the client goes away
<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-rimraf-2.4.5 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vEcaN
<ipfsbot>
js-ipfs-api/greenkeeper-rimraf-2.4.5 169bd42 greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update rimraf to version 2.4.5...
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<patagonicus>
I've been thinking a bit about how to properly generate an installable image for my boot-from-IPFS linux and I've yet to come up with a sane solution. As the goal is to run docker images I feel like using docker for the build process would be a good idea, however I need a way to install a bootloader/partition/create a filesystem, so that would mean using loop devices inside a container which is probably going
<patagonicus>
to cause problems. Anyone got a better idea?
<patagonicus>
(Also loop devices/mounting a fs would mean that the container has to be run in privileged mode)
<pjz>
patagonicus: network boot from the internet?
<patagonicus>
pjz: That's what I'm trying to build, but I want to automate the build. (It's easy-ish enough to build such an image by hand, but that's not going to be fun to upgrade.)
<pjz>
patagonicus: if you're network booting, what needs to be installable?
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<patagonicus>
I think I'm missing something. I basically want to go from a bunch of sources to foo.iso which is a bootable image and I want this to be a single command. I'm not network booting yet and I need to build the image that's going to be booted. (Plus the image won't be [directly] capable of building itself)
<pjz>
ah
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<tperson>
I don't think you'd have to mount it. You could just build it in a tar file right?
<tperson>
ah nm
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<patagonicus>
That works for the root fs that will be pulled from IPFS, but not for the small image that needs to be installed for that to work. I'll go with a privileged container for now.
<pjz>
but you can build *that* and then netboot to it, no?
<pjz>
pxe/bootp boot to it?
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<patagonicus>
I guess you could set up a PXE server to serve the image. But based on my current plan you'd have to make some changes. The image assumes that it can use the boot fs to store the IPFS repo, but you could easily move that to a tmpfs.
<pjz>
patagonicus: also: does using loop devices in side a container really break things?
<pjz>
patagonicus: you could automate your build using vagrant & etc instead of docker
<ogzy>
Kubuxu, so the routing is done via cjdns?
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<patagonicus>
pjz: It probably doesn't break things, but you have to use run --privileged which removes the (few) restrictions containers normally have and gives them raw access to all devices.
<lgierth>
patagonicus: better use --cap-add to give specific privileges to the container
<lgierth>
--privileged does also give the container the host's network stack
<Kubuxu>
the integration could be more important when there are more IPFS capable nodes into Hype itself as then optimal peers could be selected
<patagonicus>
lgierth: Looks like I'd need to add SYS_ADMIN, which still gives a lot of permissions, but it's better than using --privileged.
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<mafintosh>
daviddias: remember that issue you opened up on multicast-dns a while back about using a separate udp socket for sending vs receiving? what was the reasoning for that again
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<mafintosh>
daviddias: found it, https://github.com/mafintosh/multicast-dns/pull/11. i'm getting some errors from other clients (dig fx) because of this since it checks that the origin port is the same dest port. could you check if the go impl still has trouble with o/
<The_8472>
why would it send a query to itself? and even then, wouldn't enabling multicast loopback make it work?
<mafintosh>
The_8472: it would query itself when running two multiple processes on the same host machine but yea multicast loopback should work in this case
<The_8472>
that's probably a better fix than using different source ports
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<mafintosh>
The_8472: i agree
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<whyrusleeping>
mafintosh: i think the go implementation is working fine now
<mafintosh>
whyrusleeping: nice, i've released a major bump of multicast-dns with a fix
<whyrusleeping>
ah, sweet. I'll make sure to let daviddias know if he doesnt end up reading irc
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<mafintosh>
whyrusleeping: cool. since its a major bump it shouldn't affect any his stuff unless he explicitly pulls in the new version
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* whyrusleeping
just had his mind blown
<whyrusleeping>
in fish shell (if anyone else uses it)
<whyrusleeping>
you can use %NAME to get the pid of the named process
<whyrusleeping>
so 'echo %ipfs'
<whyrusleeping>
prints the pid of my daemon
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<NeoTeo>
nice. Faster than top | grep'ing it
<fazo>
I remember using fish, but I switched to zsh because fish didn't support running bash scripts :(
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<patagonicus>
fish is awesome. :)
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<patagonicus>
Hmm. --cap-add SYS_ADMIN --cap-add MKNOD is not enough for losetup. It works with --privileged. Will investigate tomorrow, I need some sleep first.
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<Qwertie>
How do I enable cross origin on the ipfs daemon?