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<speewave> I'm gonna add it to the notes project once i write it up a bit better, but i wanted to test the waters about this idea, Thinking creating a spec\format\whatever basically a list of hashes\paths and alternate file names, as well as potentially optional metadata
<pokeball99> speewave: your talking about my idea?
<speewave> Nah yours is quite different
<pokeball99> ah
<pokeball99> so what do you think of it then speewave
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<speewave> Your idea? If it's possible, i think it'd be interesting
<pokeball99> yea,it would
<pokeball99> and if it would also be possible to view all the peers of your peers(or any peer for that matter) it would more or less instantly connect the whole network in terms of files :D
<greglook_> Anyone else working on Clojure implementations of IPFS ideas?
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<pokeball99> speewave: going to post the idea to one of the ipfs repos,but which one should i do it in?(don't want this idea do just be drowned out)
<speewave> You could do it like a Public Pin, so when your node is polled you can only see what they publically pinned or something (ipfs pin public <hash>)
<speewave> When i breifly brought up my idea last night, i was told notes
<pokeball99> notes?
<speewave> github.com/ipfs/notes/issues
<pokeball99> already got it mate :)
<speewave> Cool
<rendar> pokeball99: you mean having some users/peers able to access only a subset of files?
<speewave> Sounds more like having them see what a connected or local node is sharing
<pokeball99> yea kinda
<speewave> Be sure to clarify everything when you create the topic, the clearer, the better :) Examples and such, Take a look at whats there and base off of that
<pokeball99> would this do anything like what i am thinking? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kademlia (someone just told me about it)
<multivac> [WIKIPEDIA] Kademlia | "Kademlia is a distributed hash table for decentralized peer-to-peer computer networks designed by Petar Maymounkov and David Mazières in 2002. It specifies the structure of the network and the exchange of information through node lookups. Kademlia nodes communicate among themselves using UDP. A virtual..."
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<speewave> Huh, thats pretty cool never heard of it, but it may be
<achin> (note that IPFS is built on a version of Kademlia)
<pokeball99> haha,for real?
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<achin> yep
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth created quickstart-gc (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vRqjO
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/quickstart-gc 4d1c617 Lars Gierth: assets: fix gc example...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth opened pull request #2029: assets: fix gc example (master...quickstart-gc) http://git.io/vRqjE
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth closed pull request #1850: Changed 'ipfs gc' to 'ipfs repo gc' (master...quick-start-tiny-fix) http://git.io/vCdBY
<daviddias> Luzifer: how can I make gobuilder build https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/releases/tag/v0.4.0-dev
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<daviddias> jbenet: whyrusleeping do you also have a way to make that tag build? Juan I saw you updated it as we talked, but gobuilder didn't seem to notice that
<daviddias> hunter2
<daviddias> ups, typed my password on the wrong window :P
<daviddias> (no worries, it is for a vm for a demo :P)
* ansuz hacks
<daviddias> you all saw ****** right?
<daviddias> ahah
<ansuz> $('[type="password"]').attr('type','text');
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix pushed 1 new commit to fix/compliantWritableGW: http://git.io/vRmfF
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/compliantWritableGW 105aeb7 Henry: addressed CR notes from @lgierth
<ansuz> (I don't always hack, but when I do, I use jquery)
<daviddias> n1 pentest tool
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix force-pushed fix/compliantWritableGW from 105aeb7 to 7d45f21: http://git.io/vlGAp
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/compliantWritableGW 7d45f21 Henry: addressed CR notes from @lgierth...
<ansuz> ikr
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<jbenet> daviddias: not sure why gobuilder doesnt build my v0.4.0-dev branch
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<daviddias> .ask Luzifer if he can take a look on why gobuilder is not building 0.4.0 tag or branch. Thank you
<multivac> daviddias: I'll pass that on when Luzifer is around.
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<thelinuxkid> whyrusleeping: have you seen this 'swarm2: swarm listener accept error' in travis-ci before?
<whyrusleeping> thelinuxkid: link?
<whyrusleeping> i'm heading out for an hour, but pm it to me and i'll take a look when i get back
<thelinuxkid> sorry
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<CustomWebAppsCom> can I query IPFS for a sha512 hash?
<thelinuxkid> whyrusleeping: It's only showing up right now when FUSE is enabled. Could be a race condition.
<whyrusleeping> thelinuxkid: interesting... brb!
<thelinuxkid> k
<jbenet> !pin /ipfs/QmWgceuv7e3vNqrXzCXztRhVAByAqJ3964CN6UAHxg4tfP
<jbenet> :/
<jbenet> net split
<achin> CustomWebAppsCom: not 100% sure what you mean
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<CustomWebAppsCom> if I generate a hash of a file's content, say sha512 or md5 hash
<cryptix> requesting content for a known hash i guess
<achin> the hash that ipfs computes is not the same as the hash of the file contents
<cryptix> (needs an index from classic md5 > possible chunked versions)
<achin> so the answer would be 'no' (if i've understood you correctly)
<CustomWebAppsCom> ok
<CustomWebAppsCom> so if I shared a file on ipfs from 2 different machines
<CustomWebAppsCom> there would be 2 different hashes? or does the 2nd find the 1st and just use that?
<CustomWebAppsCom> the same file, that is
<achin> is it the same file? if so, then the IPFS hash is the same
<CustomWebAppsCom> so the 2nd node looks up the contents on the network to see if it's exists?
<cryptix> no, it adds the data to the local node and recomputes the hash
<CustomWebAppsCom> so is there some type of hash that ipfs uses on the file contents to identify similar files?
<achin> the ipfs hash is based on the hash of the file contents, but it also includes some other data
<achin> (technically speaking, that is a simplification, but for right now, it's the right way to think about things)
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth force-pushed quickstart-gc from 4d1c617 to 01de4c6: http://git.io/vRmWe
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/quickstart-gc 01de4c6 Lars Gierth: assets: fix gc example...
<achin> if we both do `echo hello | ipfs add`, we'll both get back the same hash: QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN
<CustomWebAppsCom> probably network info then? where the source is?
<achin> if anyone else who requests that hash, they might download a copy from you, or some me, or from someone else who happens to ahve that data
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<CustomWebAppsCom> oh yea, maybe not then, multiple sources...
<achin> remember that when you run "ipfs add", you're not "pushing" anything into the network. you're just saving that file locally, and telling your node "make this hash avaialble to anyone who asks for it"
<CustomWebAppsCom> so there's no current way to see if a file is already on ipfs, so I could delete it locally?
<achin> that's right
<achin> well
<CustomWebAppsCom> (and I know ipfs is ephermal)
<achin> you could run "ipfs dht findprovs <hash>" which will tell you if other nodes are providing that hash
<CustomWebAppsCom> but I'd have to generate that hash locally first, i.e. with like ipfs -n?
<CustomWebAppsCom> err ipfs add -n
<achin> if you have the file, but haven't added it to your local ipfs node, and you want to see if any nodes are already providing that data? yes, add with --hash-only and then "ipfs dht findprovs"
<CustomWebAppsCom> cool that maybes what I need...
<CustomWebAppsCom> got some unrecognized event types but ultimately got "routing not found"
<achin> i'm not sure what's up with those "unrecognized event types". they're new
<CustomWebAppsCom> and when the hash exists, I get a list of hashes, guessing "providers" that have the file
<achin> yes. those are peerIDs
<CustomWebAppsCom> achin: thank you so much, I think I'm finally groking this
<achin> great!
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth force-pushed quickstart-gc from 01de4c6 to dcc9a63: http://git.io/vRmWe
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/quickstart-gc dcc9a63 Lars Gierth: assets: fix gc example...
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<M-davidar> Hi __mek__
<Not_> around when will ipfs update command work?
<Not_> are there any dates for new releases?
<Not_> or a schedule\checklist?
<Not_> like a whitepaper with dates
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<whyrusleeping> thelinuxkid: so that looks like the 'faied to accept' thing isnt the issue
<whyrusleeping> the real error appears to be 'failed to specify addrs'
<thelinuxkid> OK. Seen that before?
<speewave> Added that idea i mentioned earlier to the notes page (for anyone who was on a couple hours ago... ) - check it out https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/80
<whyrusleeping> thelinuxkid: nope, that ones new to me
<thelinuxkid> OK. I will work on it.
<thelinuxkid> Thanks
<whyrusleeping> no probs!
<thelinuxkid> whyrusleeping: I am currently working on another intermittent bug
<pokeball99> hey,how do i add a whole folder btw?
<thelinuxkid> ipfs mount sometimes fails in sharness tests with 'Error: failed to find any peer in table'
<pokeball99> to ipfs i mean
<ansuz> `ipfs add -r folder`
<ansuz> I think
<pokeball99> folder is just the file path?
<ansuz> and then you need to `ipfs get <hash>`
<achin> pokeball99: yep
<ansuz> uhh, yea
<ansuz> relative or absolute should work
<pokeball99> how well would that work for a folder with ~20-30k files?
<achin> you'll probably want to stop your daemon for performance reasons
<pokeball99> alright
<achin> though updates are coming that should improve performance
<ansuz> achin: why is that?
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<achin> i believe that if the daemon is running, "ipfs add" will ask the daemon to add things, instead of just writing the blocks directly. this adds a bit of latency
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<ansuz> ahh, interesting
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<pokeball99> "can't Lock file (path/.ipfs/repo.lock) has non-zero size"
<pokeball99> ansuz achin: ^
<achin> did you get that trying to start your daemon?
<ansuz> might be another daemon running already ^
<pokeball99> no,i shut it down
<ansuz> when in doubt `sudo rm yourProblems`
<achin> if that's the case, you normally see a message like `Error: ipfs daemon is running. please stop it to run this command`
<pokeball99> sudo?
<achin> pokeball99: what command did you run to get that error message?
<ansuz> I'm not really affiliated with ipfs
<ansuz> I'm not sure if achin is either, but he seems a lot more trustworthy than me
<ansuz> sudo probably isn't necessary, but it makes me feel like a badass
<pokeball99> "ipfs.exe add -r (path)"
<ansuz> oh, windows?
* ansuz has no idea
<achin> pokeball99: can you double check (via task manager or process explorer) that the daemon is really stopped? and no other ipfs commands are running? and if so, try removing the .ipfs/repo.lock file
<pokeball99> alright
<pokeball99> its shut down for sure
<pokeball99> plus i'm not really the best at command line because of
<pokeball99> >Oh,Windows
<ansuz> I don't tell most people this
<achin> in theory, pressing ctrl+c in the command window that was running the daemon is the best way to shut down the daemon
<ansuz> but I'm a moderately sophisticated AI
<whyrusleeping> thelinuxkid: ooog, thats because ipns needs other peers to publish to
<whyrusleeping> or it fails.
<ansuz> and my programming prevents me from helping people who are using a non-free OS
<whyrusleeping> we should catch that error and say 'its okay in this case'
<thelinuxkid> whyrusleeping: Yeah. I can simply add a go-sleep before `ipfs mount` in the test but I was looking to do it the "right way"
<thelinuxkid> What's your advice?
<pokeball99> im using the default windows command line,anyone got a better for me?
<thelinuxkid> whyrusleeping: catch it in the command or in the test?
<achin> pokeball99: that's probably your best bet. other power users might recommend something like powershell or msys2, but unless you know what you want, i'd just stick with the default windows command prompt
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<achin> pokeball99: afk for a bit, i'm getting ready for bed
<pokeball99> achin: is their anything with auto complete?
<pokeball99> thats really the main thing i would want
<whyrusleeping> thelinuxkid: hrm... probably in the command
<thelinuxkid> kk
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-webpack-stream-2.3.0 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vRmFJ
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/greenkeeper-webpack-stream-2.3.0 e2b0928 greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update webpack-stream to version 2.3.0...
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] Dignifiedquire deleted greenkeeper-webpack-stream-2.3.0 at e2b0928: http://git.io/vRmFz
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created fix/close-notify (+3 new commits): http://git.io/vRmbT
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/close-notify 7e8eb2d Jeromy: fixup panic catching in http handler funcs...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/close-notify ec7b28e Jeromy: cleanup http client code...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/close-notify 0a6aeb4 Jeromy: fix closenotify by not sending empty file set...
<whyrusleeping> alright. that oughta help a bit...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2032: fix close notify (master...fix/close-notify) http://git.io/vRmbi
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<zignig> whyrusleeping: yo
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<whyrusleeping> zignig: heey
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<zignig> how's it all going ?
<zignig> been getting a weird one too , if I do a dht find provs <hash> , i'm getting a lot of unrecognized event type: 6
<zignig> and some of event type 7
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<M-davidar> zignig (IRC): uh oh, defcon 7
* M-davidar gets into the bunker
<zignig> BWOOP BWOOP !
<zignig> DIVE DIVE !
<zignig> M-davidar: how are you doing ?
<M-davidar> :p
<M-davidar> zignig (IRC): good, almost finished my literature review :)
<M-davidar> You?
<zignig> not bad , short humans limiting my sleep at the moment.
<zignig> been doing some work on astralboot again , looking better.
* zignig can deploy a coreos cluster out of the ipfs ether.
<M-davidar> zignig (IRC): awesome :)
<whyrusleeping> zignig: oooh, i need to update that command
<whyrusleeping> what branch?
<zignig> master
<whyrusleeping> okay
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<cow_2001> when will the unix-like file and directory operations be released? (mv, cp, rm, etc)
<cow_2001> i once asked a similar question
<daviddias>  cow_2001 You can try them on 0.4.0 branch
<daviddias> they are pretty good, actually
<daviddias> I've been using all of that API without issues
<daviddias> (other than perf, but perf has been increasing too)
<cow_2001> ah! i'm on 0.3.10-dev
<cow_2001> i've installed ipfs using: go get -u github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/cmd/ipfs
<cow_2001> is that the same command used to upgrade?
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<whyrusleeping> cow_2001: dev0.4.0 isnt officially released yet
<whyrusleeping> if you want to run it, you need to manually build from source
<cow_2001> yeah
<cow_2001> i use the go compiler
<cow_2001> omg omg unix-like operations! :D
<whyrusleeping> haha, have fun. and let me know how it goes
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<dignifiedquire> good morning everyone :)
<cow_2001> sure!
<whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: good morning, and good night :)
<daviddias> morning :)
<whyrusleeping> i'm off
<cow_2001> bye!
* whyrusleeping waves
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: good night
* dignifiedquire waves
<whyrusleeping> oh! btw! i fixed the close notify stuff
<whyrusleeping> which was a HUGE memory leak and perf sucker
<whyrusleeping> soooo yeah
<whyrusleeping> gnite!
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: congrats
<dignifiedquire> and enjoy your sleep
<daviddias> nice! :D
<kpcyrd> whyrusleeping: \o/
<cow_2001> just to make sure, installing a branch other than the main one, do i just checkout dev0.4.0, go to /cmd/ipfs, and go build? or maybe it's go install?
<cow_2001> this says `go install`
<daviddias> cow_2001: from the root of the repo
<daviddias> go install ./cmd/ipfs
<daviddias> so that paths are all nice :)
<cow_2001> ah!
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<daviddias> +- 15 hours for 80 Gb added //cc @whyrusleeping
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix pushed 1 new commit to fix/compliantWritableGW: http://git.io/vRYFc
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/compliantWritableGW ede0559 Henry: WIP: fixing sharness
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<Luzifer> daviddias: Just triggered that build, it's now in the list. My guess: GoBuilder never saw the commit the tag is attached to on top of master and therefor did not tag that build with this tag…
<multivac> Luzifer: 2015-12-03 - 01:30:16 <daviddias> ask Luzifer if he can take a look on why gobuilder is not building 0.4.0 tag or branch. Thank you
<Luzifer> o_O
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix created wip/testHickups (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vRYbW
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/wip/testHickups f7fb258 Henry: tests: fixing sporadic failure in t0060-daemon.sh...
<Luzifer> yeah…
<daviddias> nice
<daviddias> thank you :)
<daviddias> sweeet, it is done already
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<computerfreak> can i install dev0.04.0 using go get ?
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<ogzy> does ipns working as the documentation says, some day ago i tried to update a content and reaching the same peerid still displays the same content. Indeed i had mailed my issue, any idea what is the reason?
<computerfreak> how did utried to update the content?
<computerfreak> and how do you reach the content ?
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<SebCB> Hi, we had a discussion yesterday how to fix the cors domain issue in Windows since 'export API_ORIGIN' (and the Windows equivalent 'SET API_ORIGIN') is not correctly interpreted by ipfs daemon on windows.
<SebCB> I found a solution now (rtfm):
<SebCB> >ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin
<SebCB> "[\"*\"]"
<SebCB> this also works on Windows but that made me wonder: If you suggest this in the ipfs daemon --help, then why do you support the environment variable in the first place (since it works only on some OSes)?
<SebCB> Also in Windows you should not write
<SebCB> >ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin
<SebCB> '["*"]'
<SebCB> since this yields
<SebCB> Error: failed to unmarshal json. invalid character '\'' looking for beginning of
<SebCB> value
<SebCB> maybe thats something worth fixing in 'ipfs daemon --help' for the windows release. I can submit a git issue if you think its worth it.
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<dignifiedquire> SebastianCB: I think it would be great if you could file an issue with details of your findings, windows support is still a bit rough around the edges and every bit of information helps :)
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<SebastianCB> do you have any clue why you have that environment variable API_ORIGIN? is it just a shortcut?
<SebastianCB> if so, I'd mention this in the docs (have to look for the location but somewhere this is suggested)
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<SebastianCB> ok got it, this was in the js-ipfs-api. also opened an issue for this one https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/issues/156
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<ogzy> computerfreak, i changed the test file and readded it with --only-hash
<ogzy> computerfreak, than i tried to reach it from gateway using the ipns and peerid
<computerfreak> u need to readd and republish it :P
<computerfreak> ipfs add syncfolder
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<computerfreak> ipfs publish name syncfolder-hash
<ogzy> computerfreak, that is not updating a content, it is a way of doing any other file also, there is no meaning of using ipns than!
<computerfreak> u do ipfs name publish <folder-hash>
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<computerfreak> that makes the new folder with modified file accessible through /ipns
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<ogzy> computerfreak, i got it, what will happen the old hash? it will still be accessible from ipfs.io right?
<computerfreak> not the old folder hash
<computerfreak> only the new u published with ipns name publish <hash>
<ogzy> computerfreak, i understood what you mean, i am asking what will happen the old content?
<ogzy> computerfreak, it will not be erased right?
<computerfreak> its still available with ipns
<computerfreak> ipfs*
<ogzy> computerfreak, so it is not an update of a content but adding another content :)
<computerfreak> ipfs cat <hash>
<computerfreak> its adding a new version of content to /ipns , thats what u asked for
<ogzy> computerfreak, another question, i am running ipfs in a three node environment but i removed the route and bootstrap nodes, when i add a content, it is accessible from other nodes even the original node is down, the same situation is not valid for ipns right? the node should be online?
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<computerfreak> i think ipns is just a link
<computerfreak> to the content
<computerfreak> so if u wanna use it with original node shutdown, you need to pin it on another node
<ogzy> computerfreak, ok another question is the new nodes, how do they understand the ipns publish information that was added before?
<computerfreak> they should be able to reach /ipns/your_id
<computerfreak> and they can download/pin/cash your <folderhash> from ipns
<computerfreak> ipfs* DAMN
<computerfreak> are you writing something or just play around?
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<pokeball99> cow_2001: why art thou stalking me
<cow_2001> hmm?
<cow_2001> i'm not
<cow_2001> who are you?
<pokeball99> Oh
<pokeball99> Different cow_2001 then
<cow_2001> i don't know any other cow_2001
<pokeball99> Thought he had followed me to freenode
<cow_2001> it is probably me, but i don't remember you
<cow_2001> no offence
<cow_2001> is it snoonet or rizon?
<pokeball99> You where on #hentai on rizon(and possibly #bibanon as well)
<pokeball99> Was that you cow_2001
<cow_2001> you should probably set your user mode on rizon to hide your channels
<cow_2001> yes
<pokeball99> Haha
<pokeball99> I actually don't care if people Whois me
<pokeball99> I take whois'ing as adavatrising your channels
<dignifiedquire> haadcode: I just saw you were using flow types in anonymous-networks, how have they been working for you? We’ve been thinking about adding them to some of our js-ipfs projects to get some level of type safety
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<computerfreak> someone ever cloned bitcoin? just to try it out with my own blockchain..
<haadcode> dignifiedquire: did't get to use the types much yet, just put in the transformers and syntax for babel and made sure they worked. looking forward to start using them more actively throughout the code.
<M-davidar> computerfreak (IRC): I believe there's plans to ipfsify the blockchain
<M-davidar> either that or jbenet just wants to plaster redwoods with bitcoin logos...
<NeoTeo> o/
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<NeoTeo> Has anyone suggested/volunteered to archive Computer Chronicles on IPFS ?
<computerfreak> haha okey
<NeoTeo> They're currently on the Internet Archive so I don't know if there's more generally plans to mirror all of that.
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<computerfreak> maybe he can tell me then
<M-davidar> NeoTeo: definitely plans to get all of IA onto ipfs, but might take a little while :)
<plddr> computerfreak: if you want a chain to test, you can start bitcoind with -regtest parameter to have a chain to test on. but if you want "your own blockchain" check out tendermint/tendermint on github, that's specifically being (re-)engineered for private blockchains
<M-davidar> computerfreak (IRC): plddrr (IRC): I'd also be interested in getting namecoin onto ipfs, particularly in terms of /ipns/domain.bit resolution
<plddr> M-davidar: interesting!
<M-davidar> Haven't worked out how to do it yet though
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<NeoTeo> M-davidar Ok, so I'm better off waiting for the initial IPFS download and then pin the Chronicles if I want to help with storage.
<M-davidar> NeoTeo (IRC): you can also mirror it from IA yourself if you like
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<M-davidar> Or, convince someone else to :p
<NeoTeo> M-davidar That was my initial intention, but the first episode is taking 30 mins to dl and there are around 650 episodes (and that's just one of the 4 or 6 formats for each episode)
<M-davidar> NeoTeo (IRC): total size?
<NeoTeo> Well that one episode is 925 MB
<computerfreak> plddr: Yeah thanks , ill check that out, after i made me a healthy meal :) only coffee isnt good ;)
<plddr> it isnt?
<plddr> TIL ;)
<M-davidar> NeoTeo (IRC): how many episodes?
<M-davidar> Oh, you already said, lol
<M-davidar> Yeah, that is moderately large :/
<computerfreak> anyone got a hash i could pin for testing? (larger than text but max. 5 GB)
<achin> how much larger than text?
<computerfreak> idk just some megabytes ..
<M-davidar> achin (IRC): lots of stuff in archives
<achin> QmSefHCec4ez9sUnbZvVvUfv34YwyuDExSJyqbtKSCpEZn is about 500 megabytes
<M-davidar> Er, computerfreak
<NeoTeo> M-davidar Yeah, but not necessarily a problem. Worse is having to manually pick them out of IA. I'm guessing an official effort to mirror IA would be fully automatic, perhaps even by going there with a BIG drive.
<M-davidar> Hopefully IA will start running their own nodes, but we need to convince them first ;)
<computerfreak> what is IA?
<M-davidar> And by we I mean mek and jbenet :p
<NeoTeo> Internet Archive
<achin> they got the disk and bandwidth!
<NeoTeo> I thought jbenet had visited and though he didn't mention specifics he did sound optimistic
<computerfreak> wow nice shit
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<computerfreak> wow how do they store the data right now?
<computerfreak> this shit cant be central :/
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<NeoTeo> alas :(
<achin> for some of us, the first introduction of "Petabyte storage" was the Internet Archive
<NeoTeo> It's just so wrong that it's all in one place.
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] RichardLitt pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vR3SB
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/master 97ac644 Richard Littauer: Changed link to browserify.org, closes #155
<achin> they have a terrifying amount of storage
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<achin> M-davidar: it occures to me that a lot of the discussions on ipfs/archives are missing a key piece -- is it sufficient to add some massive tarball to ipfs? or should we really also be working on some type of interface to interact with the data?
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<Confiks> Is it just me or are some Freenode servers dropping out quite regularly? wilhelm.freenode.net bailed on me an hour ago.
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<ion> Confiks: They have been under DoS for days.
<ion> Time to switch to a decentralized system, eh? :-P
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<computerfreak> ipfs irc server :D
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<pjz> hmm... an ipfs decentralized chat with a gateway to an IRC channel would be cool
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<computerfreak> can someone tell me, why can i launch localhost:5001/webui and get a nice interface without installing npm? is this possible with station too ?
<computerfreak> and how can i use this ?
<pjz> computerfreak: why would you need npm? Your browser runs javascript
<computerfreak> for the javascript api to ipfs you need npm
<computerfreak> normaly, but not for webui -> WHY?
<pjz> computerfreak: ...read that page you linked, under 'In the browser...'
<computerfreak> lol i just found it
<computerfreak> thanks
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<whyrusleeping> good morning friends
<pjz> morning, whyrusleeping!
<pjz> ..though it's almost noon where I am :)
<whyrusleeping> pjz: yeahh... crawling out of bed
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<sedition> morning
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<computerfreak> morning
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<jedahan> #indiewebcamp is happening right now, probably a lot of overlapping interests between #ipfs peoples and that crowd
<wao_> jedahan: where?
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<jedahan> ( http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/SF ) but also on #indiewebcamp on freenode...
<jedahan> I am looking for streams right now, but the best i've found is following that hashtag on twitter
<jedahan> I'm kinda interested in how an idea like http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieAuth can apply to ipfs
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<jedahan> or if its just like, superseded completely by it
<wao_> ah sf
<wao_> ok got it :)
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<noffle> jbenet: is your ethereum devcon ipfs talk up somewhere?
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<voxelot> noffle: i've been looking for that for awile now, it was up the day of the talk and got dmca slapped for the background music lol
<voxelot> i was at the conf, great talk, sorta stole the show at devcon1
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<voxelot> they are slowly seperating the talks and posting them on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUARih8_f68&list=PLJqWcTqh_zKHQUFX4IaVjWjfT2tbS4NVk
<noffle> voxelot: thanks!
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<whyrusleeping> anyone know an easy way in shell scripting to say 'run this in this dir'
<whyrusleeping> doing 'cd X && THING' sucks because i have to cd back to the original directory
<ansuz> pushd <dir> && yourCommand && popd
<whyrusleeping> mmm, thats easier
<whyrusleeping> thanks
<ansuz> I recently learned about `cd -`
<ansuz> which is the same as `cd <wherever you were last>`
<ansuz> pushd and popd are nice in that they make a stack, but if you're only moving once, `cd -` is equivalent
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<whyrusleeping> hmmm
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<achin> whyrusleeping: or (cd X && THING)
<whyrusleeping> thats a thing?
<whyrusleeping> ooo
<achin> in bash it is at least
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<whyrusleeping> mmm, i'm not using bash, just /bin/sh
<achin> seems to work there, too
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<AtnNn> whyrusleeping: I often use this in my shell scripts: in_dir () { local dir="$1"; shift; ( cd "$dir" && "$@" ); }
<dignifiedquire-> I'm looking to move all my traffic to a vpn, anyone got any suggestions/wxperience which ones are good? looking at buffered atm (need support for os z, windows, linux, iphone)
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<dignifiedquire-> cc jbenet whyrusleeping lgierth daviddias ^^
<whyrusleeping> see jay dee enn ess ?
<whyrusleeping> i'm interested in taking this journey with you though
<whyrusleeping> and cjdns doesnt quite work as nicely as a vpn as i'd like
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<dignifiedquire-> I haven't tried it yet but for day to day activities I'd like sth stable that I'm sure gives me full bandwith (also my family doesn't like random disconnects ;)
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<whyrusleeping> mmm, family, right
<whyrusleeping> well, let me know what you decide
<daviddias> dignifiedquire-: My fav is tunnel bear
<dignifiedquire_> the name sounds good for sure :D
<daviddias> It has apps for iOS and Android that config everything for you and it has a cute bear that says rawr and protects my data
<computerfreak> someone care to tell me howto execute an ipfs comand in c++ ? Like clicking a button to ipfs add file or smth ...
<daviddias> * It works on Mac, Linux and Windows as well
<dignifiedquire_> daviddias: love the website :D
<computerfreak> i like nvpn, used it pretty much and its verry stable + anonymous
<dignifiedquire_> daviddias: but Canada? :/
<computerfreak> https://nvpn.net/
<daviddias> There is a ton of vpn end points you can pick
<dignifiedquire_> daviddias: that’s the point, the point is which legal security do you have, that’s why I wouldn’t use any US based service, because they have to hand over your data to the authorities
<computerfreak> nvpn claims to store no logs
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<dignifiedquire_> computerfreak: yeah most providers claim that, the tricky thing is do I trust them that that is true, also if they get a wiretap on their servers it doesn’t matter what they store
<dignifiedquire_> computerfreak: I’m trying to find out where nvpn has their legal business registration but can’t find anything on their site :/
<computerfreak> well if u want anonymity , vpn isnt the best idea
<computerfreak> but the encryption that prevent DPI and stuff is great: 256 Bit AES-CBC / SHA512 as default and alternatively 128 Bit Blowfish-CBC / SHA1)
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<computerfreak> if u dont wanna trust them, add a ''tor-node'' after the vpn ;)
<dignifiedquire_> computerfreak: fair point
<dignifiedquire_> computerfreak: I know that a single vpn is not giving me full anonymity nor security, just want a little extra so my provider/government can look over my shoulder that easy
<dignifiedquire_> *can not
<computerfreak> well if they wanna really look, they will look :D
<dignifiedquire_> computerfreak: of course, but there is very little I can do then
<computerfreak> but your neighbour cant hack your wlan and look ..
<computerfreak> if we had all ipfs nodes connected over vpn ...
<dignifiedquire_> that would improve things for sure
<computerfreak> and a tor- like kaskade routing :P
<dignifiedquire_> one step at a time though :)
<computerfreak> sure, but wasnt there a talk about ''improving security''?
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<computerfreak> btw what is your-government ? ;)
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<dignifiedquire> Germany
<dignifiedquire> but I also travel to the UK a couple of times a year
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<computerfreak> ah nice, bin aus österreich ;)
<dignifiedquire> sehr gut, dann kannst du mit helfen Deutschunterricht für whyrusleeping zu geben :D
<computerfreak> hehe
<computerfreak> Schweden kann ich nur empfehlen
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<computerfreak> super safes Internet (y)
<whyrusleeping> viele duetch
<nessence> are these specs still current? https://github.com/ipfs/specs/tree/master/merkledag
<computerfreak> deutsch is beautiful \m/
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<dignifiedquire> pjz: thanks, just went there and now have an account with ipvanish for 3month /cc whyrusleeping let’s see how it goes
<pjz> dignifiedquire: cool; that landscape changes enough that I always have to go look at the recommended options when it comes up
<whyrusleeping> ipvanish?
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<whyrusleeping> mmm, that ones more expensive
<whyrusleeping> why the choice?
<dignifiedquire_> whyrusleeping: I found them to be listed in multiple places to be very good, and I liked the answers the gave in torrentfreak
<whyrusleeping> huh, okay
<dignifiedquire_> and pretty much 90% of the services I checked out end up costing about $10/month if you want no speed limit
<dignifiedquire_> running a speedtest now :)
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<dignifiedquire_> :O
<dignifiedquire_> I only get a third of my regular speed :(
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<whyrusleeping> they have a maximum password length requirement
<whyrusleeping> -.-
<computerfreak> lolol max password
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<kyledrake> whyrusleeping so, this site has been giving me a lot of problems http://homebase.neocities.org/
<kyledrake> It updates every 5-15 minutes or something, and I have 6000+ archives of it. When I run ipfs add -r homebase, it just locks up.
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: dunno, the standard openvpn app maybe?
<lgierth> android 4.x has builtin vpn support iirc
<whyrusleeping> kyledrake: o.o
<kyledrake> I'm going to fix it by cutting the number of archives stored, but I don't want to shut it off without figuring wtf is going on
<whyrusleeping> it locks up?
<dignifiedquire> lgierth: all good :) got a sub with ipvanish, and looks good so far, but thanks
<kyledrake> I'll msg you
<whyrusleeping> kyledrake: is there any way i can get ssh access?
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<ipfs-gitter-bot> (void4) Have Ethereum Devs explicitly expressed interest to integrate libp2p as their Whisper component or to reconcile their existing standards and implementation with it? I am asking because my future development choices depend on it.
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<cow_2001> are dev0.4.0 and 0.3.10-dev two different networks?
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<whyrusleeping> yes
<cow_2001> oh.
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vRnoP
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 83246d3 Juan Benet: Merge pull request #2029 from ipfs/quickstart-gc...
<cow_2001> no way of sharing between them?
<cow_2001> if i upgrade, could i keep the data?
<cow_2001> one of my nodes lost its pins
<cow_2001> because somehow things got jumbled
<cow_2001> i should have asked here for help, i guess
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<kandinski> if there is a quick answer, how is IPNS related to IPRS?
<kandinski> are IPNS names just IPRS records with a particular format and semantics?
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<whyrusleeping> cow_2001: if you upgrade you can keep your data
<whyrusleeping> you just have to run the fs-repo-migration tool for it
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2014: quick hack to prevent indefinite buildup of closenotify routines (dev0.4.0...hotfix/close-notif-routine) http://git.io/vB1Zd
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet force-pushed appveyor from 1ff5ab9 to 5b1261c: http://git.io/vBFrc
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<cow_2001> whyrusleeping: at what point should i run fs-repo-migration? will it work as is or should i `git checkout` and then `go install` another branch?
<cow_2001> whyrusleeping: (i've git checkouted the 2-to-3 branch in my flopped attempt)
<whyrusleeping> you need to check out the 2-to-3 branch if you want to migration to 0.4.0
<whyrusleeping> this will be done automatically when we actually release 0.4.0
<cow_2001> when will you be releasing 0.4.0?
<whyrusleeping> not sure right now
<cow_2001> it's okay
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