<Confiks_>
Day 3 still had some slots, but the lightning talks take place during State of the Onion and another Tor talk that will be highly popular. So desired timeframe is now at the end of the slots at day 4.
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<lgierth>
Confiks_: thanks! we submitted a few talks which weren't accepted, and didn't actually think about a lightning talk yet
<lgierth>
good that you're keeping this option open for you or us
<Confiks_>
So this is just to reserve: I figure there are some good and knowledgable IPFS speakers attending 32c3, and I would gladly give up the spot.
<Confiks_>
But if nobody else is, I'll give an introduction :)
<Kubuxu>
Confiks_: that pdf that is linked looks really outdated.
<Confiks_>
Yeah, I know. I just submitted some slides.
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<Confiks_>
And you can send the final slides later. It's just so it won't be rejected on the basis of 'no slides'.
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<richardlitt>
Gahhhh
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<ianopolous>
Merry Christmas, everyone!
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<fleeky>
question, have yall considered how freedombox can play nice with existing linux gateway setups?
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<fleeky>
id like to run freedombox as a vm on a virtual machine server on the internal network i have, my gateway also runs some services and also the very basics and i am worried they will do lots of port conflicting ,
<fleeky>
just wondering if anyone has any ideas how to reconcile the two things
<fleeky>
damnit wrong window sorry
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<ler10>
I'm curious if IPFS would be delay tolerant
<ion>
What kind of delay?
<ion>
IPFS is meant to have the ability to be literally interplanetary in the future if that’s what you mean.
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<optimusbrine>
can links in objects refer to IPNS key hashes directly, or would you have to bake that into the data and handle it specifically?
<ion>
In pre-IPLD objects, no. With IPLD, you are free to create pretty much any data structure you want, but note that the pinning mechanism will probably only recurse to properly named IPFS links.
<ion>
(Well, you can create arbitrary objects pre-IPLD, too, but AFAIU you’d have to teach go-ipfs about them in Go code for them to be really useful.)
<optimusbrine>
what does IPLD stand for?
<optimusbrine>
(well, i get the IP part... just not the LD)
<ion>
LD stands for Linked Data or Linking Data. IPLD is inspired by http://json-ld.org/
<optimusbrine>
ah ok.
<ion>
It will be implemented in 0.4.x
<optimusbrine>
Im guessing in IPLD, links can be... essentially any sort of uri then? With special handlers for ipfs specific uri's
<ion>
AFAIK there will be a specially named key for linking to IPFS objects.
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<M-davidar>
optimusbrine (IRC): I suspect linking to ipns addresses will be discouraged since it breaks permanence
<M-davidar>
Also the idea is that you shouldn't really have to worry about the links since they'll be handled transparently
<M-davidar>
But you can always do application level links however you like (hyperlinks in html, etc)
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* zignig
falls into $FOOD_COMA after festivus lunchings.
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<sendq>
hi
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<M-davidar>
zignig (IRC): festivus isn't over until you pin me!
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<sendq>
what's the rtkey term referring to?
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<Codebird>
I googled site:gateway.ipfs.io.
<Codebird>
Using my own node, a worrying number of the found pages cannot be retrieved.
<Codebird>
If nothing else, my node is going to end up holding half of ipfs at this rate.
<Kubuxu>
Codebird: how do you crawl it?
<Codebird>
Threw together a little bit of perl.
<Codebird>
It's not indexing at the moment, but building something of a map.
<Codebird>
My main interest was in seeing how much old content was still retrievable. Worringly little.
<Kubuxu>
but how do you find new hashes? or you don't?
<Kubuxu>
It is my worry also.
<Codebird>
Google, site:gateway.ipfs.io
<Codebird>
Crude.
<Kubuxu>
I am worried it might be even worst than normal web.
<Codebird>
The solution seems fairly obvious: Need a couple of nodes with huge hard drives. Wouldn't take many.
<Kubuxu>
Until someone starts to upload CERN DB (60 PB)
<Kubuxu>
I see some other problem.
<Kubuxu>
We don't have next step.
<Kubuxu>
We have current one and final, every one running IPFS in browser.
<Kubuxu>
But how to migrate from gateway to local IPFS.
<Codebird>
Content drives adoption.
<Kubuxu>
Example, my blog stub http://ipns.kubuxu.ovh/ how to display it via local node with minimum amount of necessary additional software.
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<Kubuxu>
Solution I can think of is: special DNS entry saying that this DNS links to gateway + local HTTP proxy which would redirect access to such sites via local IPFS gateway.
<Kubuxu>
but it requires additional configuration, the local HTTP proxy
<Codebird>
Eventually we might get ISPs hosting nodes, but that can't happen until we have more adoption, and adoption is driven by content: If there are enough sites using it, there will be reason for browser devs to use it and for the more tech-capable people to run nodes.
<Kubuxu>
Yes but now we need adoption for people to run local nodes.
<Kubuxu>
I'm not running local one for example even though I host site via IPFS.
<Kubuxu>
I run one only on my dedicated.
<Kubuxu>
Also we need method of pining IPNS entries but it can get problematic.
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<lgierth>
kpcyrd: do you happen to know if i can pick up friends' wristbands too?
<lgierth>
or do i need an arm to attach it to for every wristband?
<dignifiedquire>
lgierth: I can send you my arm in advance ;)
<lgierth>
:)
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<Kubuxu>
lgierth: cjd is coming
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<lgierth>
.ask dignifiedquire > can i pick up my friends' wristbands too? -- if you bring your friend along, yes. Otherwise - no.
<multivac>
lgierth: I'll pass that on when dignifiedquire is around.