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<whyrusleeping> should be able to search for ipfs bitswap coffee
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<M-davidar> So that's what whyrusleeping looks like
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<lgierth> M-davidar: ok the other thing finished and the copy is now fast :) between 30 and 50 MBps (capital b!)
<M-davidar> lgierth (IRC): cool :)
<ion> whyrusleeping: This would be even better if fancy keyboards were added to the topic mix.
<whyrusleeping> lol, i don't know if i could do all three
<whyrusleeping> i'm not quite a juggler
<pokeball99> fug
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<pokeball99> i'm trying to send a whole folder/directory to ipfs
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<pokeball99> how do i do that
<kzimmermann> pokeball99: ipfs add -r <Directory> ?
<kzimmermann> -r for recursive
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<pokeball99> alright,ill try
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<pokeball99> crap,i'm getting a "repo.lock has a non zero size"
<ianopolous> whyrusleeping: nice talk
<pokeball99> do i delete it maybe?
<whyrusleeping> ianopolous: thanks :)
<ianopolous> whyrusleeping: reminded me of Havelaar, which might be useful to you guys when advancing bitswap: https://www.cs.duke.edu/nicl/netecon06/papers/ne06-havelaar.pdf
<ianopolous> it was used in Wuala, the P2P encrypted file system
<pokeball99> fug
<pokeball99> this repo.lock keeps cockblocking me
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<pokeball99> ok,so i got the folder thing working,but now the repo.lock regenarated,and now i can't set up the daemon
<pokeball99> >what do?
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<NeoTeo> whyrusleeping Yeah, coffee/bitswap talk was interesting. Hoping for more :)
<whyrusleeping> NeoTeo: :D yay! i'm glad to hear it
* pokeball99 cough cough
<whyrusleeping> if anyone wants to vote on the next topic: http://goo.gl/forms/y20pBImdVZ
<pokeball99> on what?
<whyrusleeping> pokeball99: what os?
<pokeball99> windows
<whyrusleeping> mmm, yeah
<whyrusleeping> how are you killing the daemon each time?
<pokeball99> let me get the screenshot
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<pokeball99> also put "3rd party libraries and apps" in other for the poll
<pokeball99> whyrusleeping: you looking at the screenshot?
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<whyrusleeping> you cant start the daemon while another ipfs operation is ongoing
<pokeball99> it just giving the repo.lock error
<pokeball99> whats with that whyrusleeping
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<whyrusleeping> in your screenshot
<whyrusleeping> you were running ipfs add in another terminal
<pokeball99> yea,and?
<pokeball99> i can't seem to run two commands at once on the same terminal?
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<NeoTeo> pokeball99 you can't run multiple daemons which is what you were trying to do.
<pokeball99> oh
<pokeball99> i got it working now anyway
<NeoTeo> well done
<pokeball99> but now i come across another problem
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<pokeball99> i had to shut down the folder add process to get both running
<pokeball99> and it seems like all the files that got added to ipfs didn't show in my pin/all page in the webui
<pokeball99> i thought it would have done that automaticly
<pokeball99> plus when i ran it the secnond time
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<pokeball99> it started from scratch
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created fast-add-stuff (+5 new commits): http://git.io/vRRuZ
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fast-add-stuff 07e20d2 Jeromy: enfastify mfs...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fast-add-stuff e5c27e1 Jeromy: use mfs for adds...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fast-add-stuff a1dca8c Jeromy: compute add size in background to not stall add operation...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2039: Fast add stuff (dev0.4.0...fast-add-stuff) http://git.io/vRRuz
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<NeoTeo> pokeball99 you only ever run the ipfs.exe daemon command once. With that running you can call ipfs.exe with other commands such as add, ls, cat and so on.
<NeoTeo> (And you don't even need the daemon running for those)
<pokeball99> ik
<pokeball99> im just new to this shit,plus i am fucking garbage at command line
<speewave> once you get the hang of it, command line becomes your friend
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<pokeball99> speewave: try saying that who has been trying for 3 years
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<speewave> so is IPLD implemented in the newer versions of IPFS
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<M-davidar> speewave (IRC): yeah, iirc it's scheduled for the 0.4 release
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<ipfsbot> [ipfs] jbenet pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vRRMc
<ipfsbot> ipfs/master 050745c digital dreamer: Add link to the crowdsourced translation project
<ipfsbot> ipfs/master 71d6747 Juan Benet: Merge pull request #134 from digital-dreamer/add-transifex...
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<jbenet> M-davidar: your view on helping solve the outstanding issues would be appreciated-- kinda stuck on a couple interesting interface questions
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<M-davidar> jbenet: which issues?
<jbenet> particularly accessing links
<M-davidar> jbenet: ok, will have a look
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<M-davidar> jbenet: added some comments
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to fast-add-stuff: http://git.io/vRRpO
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fast-add-stuff 742f6da Jeromy: fixify tests...
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<whyrusleeping> mmmm, ipfs add is so fast now
<whyrusleeping> still pretty slow on the grand scheme of things
<whyrusleeping> but adding 12 million files in a 6 layer deep directory structure totalling 57GB looks like it will take around 2 hours
<whyrusleeping> down from about a month before
<whyrusleeping> i'd say thats a decent perf improvement
<tperson> nice
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<whyrusleeping> i'm pretty happy with it
<whyrusleeping> 2.7 seconds to add 100 4MB files
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] chriscool pushed 1 new commit to run_tests_with_race_flag: http://git.io/vR0LZ
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/run_tests_with_race_flag 5f64b0c Christian Couder: test/bin: add checkflags to detect flag changes...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] chriscool created t0020-fix-osx-dir-perms (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vR0L0
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/t0020-fix-osx-dir-perms 5721a10 Christian Couder: t0020: cleanup dir with bad perms...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] chriscool opened pull request #2040: t0020: cleanup dir with bad perms (master...t0020-fix-osx-dir-perms) http://git.io/vR0La
<chriscool> Hi everyone!
<chriscool> whyrusleeping: great improvement!
<whyrusleeping> chriscool: thanks :)
<whyrusleeping> long time no see!
<chriscool> yeah I have been busy by administrative stuff and working a bit on golang build
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<M-davidar> whyrusleeping: awesome!
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] chriscool created t0080-osx-fix (+2 new commits): http://git.io/vR0G3
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/t0080-osx-fix 715e0c9 Christian Couder: t0080: improve last tests...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/t0080-osx-fix 0d7ef45 Christian Couder: t0080: improve 'ipfs refs --unique' test...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] chriscool opened pull request #2041: t0080 improvements (master...t0080-osx-fix) http://git.io/vR0GH
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<whyrusleeping> can anyone take a look at this http request for me?
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<whyrusleeping> theres something wrong with it, i think
<whyrusleeping> (either that or its the response that has something wrong with it
<deltab> one way is to mount it as a filesystem, and then copy out of it
<deltab> oops, ignore that
<deltab> whyrusleeping: what makes you think there's something wrong?
<whyrusleeping> i'm getting errors on multipart parsing
<whyrusleeping> 'unexpcted line' when reading the 'next' part
<deltab> why is --4af19129eeb1ff932a34ed5d0fbe266b2abf57857f6a4947eed465522c9d split up like that?
<deltab> first one byte, then the rest
<deltab> (afaik it shouldn't make a difference to the parsing of the content though)
<deltab> is it possible to find out what the unexpected line is?
<whyrusleeping> i think thats just chunked encoding
<deltab> it is
<deltab> I don't see why you'd have a 1-byte chunk though for a whole-line delimiter
<deltab> but since that's a lower layer it shoudn't matter
<deltab> can you find out which line it's referring to?
<whyrusleeping> i'm trying to
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<Tera2342> Mod please
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<Bat`O> NeoTeo: you *can* run multiple daemon at the same time on the same computer
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<RX14> is there a way of connecting to a remote IPFS daemon on the commandline?
<Bat`O> you just have to tell the second daemon to use a different repo and ports
<RX14> eh?
<Bat`O> RX14: i was answering to someone else
<RX14> oh, i see
<Bat`O> sorry ^^
<RX14> np
<Bat`O> RX14: maybe the --api flag ?
<RX14> how do you use it?
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<NeoTeo> Bat`O Sure, but that wasn't his problem :)
<RX14> oh look it's working now
<Bat`O> RX14: ipfs --api /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/5001 id ?
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<RX14> nah I just updated ipfs and the cli started finding the daemon
<Bat`O> RX14: a remote daemon ?
<RX14> no
<RX14> a local one
<RX14> i'm running an ipfs daemon on my dedicated server in a docker container and I wanted to manually pin something but the ipfs cli inside the container wouldn't pick up the daemon
<RX14> so I updated the container and it all works nowe
<computerfreak> hey guys, if u want, check out the beginning of my ipfs-browser and tell me what futures you will see: https://github.com/crazysoldier/ipfs-browser :)
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<M-davidar> computerfreak (IRC): basically just steal all the features of https://github.com/ipfs/station ;)
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<ion> Written in Qt instead of Chromium, the binary will be less than 100 megabytes.
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<ion> .tell jbenet Re: the DAG traversal notation, perhaps it would be good to define it as an abstract syntax tree first. They are easy to produce in programming languages (without invoking a parser at runtime) and they are what a binary (de)serializer inputs/outputs. When the perfect AST structure is established, then define a corresponding canonical regexp-like syntax. All the special characters (which will need
<multivac> ion: I'll pass that on when jbenet is around.
<ion> to be escaped in path components) will be defined just once (because the underlying AST is already set in stone).
<ion> .tell jbenet …to be escaped in path components) will be defined just once (because the underlying AST is already set in stone).
<multivac> ion: I'll pass that on when jbenet is around.
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<MrJiks> Hey, how much data will running ipfs take?
<MrJiks> I meant storage.
<ion> Only what you download or add.
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<MrJiks> Then how does the network support all the data? Shouldn't the users be hosting some of it to support back?
<ion> Users looking at content will cache and serve it for a while, and they can choose to pin it to store and serve it indefinitely. IPFS-capable browsers will have a button for easy pinning of the content you’re looking at in the future.
<MrJiks> So, now some powerful servers just store everything thats added to simulate the possible future where people contribute?
<MrJiks> I am on a very limited storage laptop, I would like tp test ipfs my hosting my static site on it. I am unsure whether I will have to run the daemon always to make sure the site will be accessible to a visitor? Since, others may not chose to pin the site contents and make it redundant.
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<ion> MrJiks: To have your site hosted, you need to host it yourself or incentivize others to host it for you.
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<MrJiks> ion: Okay, get it. And hosting anyother file is also the same.
<MrJiks> ?
<ion> yes
<MrJiks> So, if I host a node at my AWS server, I can host my site/files and anyone can access it; right?
<ion> yeah
<MrJiks> ion: So, if there was a service that provided this, it would be great too?
<ion> yes
<MrJiks> ion: Thanks!
<ion> FileCoin is a thing that is planned for the future, it will let you use cryptocurrency to incentivize the network to host your content.
<MrJiks> ion: You mean, a new currency is planned? Or will you be piggy back on an existing one?
<ion> A new currency. I’m under the impression that it will completely replace hash mining with data hosting. But I haven’t really studied how it works.
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<ion> or will work
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<MrJiks> ion: [stupid-question]: If it was possible to provide a link to file also apart from adding a local file. And that absolute reference elsewhere was stored and updated in a DHT won't that make ipfs more powerful by levraging the exisiting centralized servers too?
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<ion> MrJiks: I didn’t quite get what you’re asking.
<MrJiks> ion: So, when that hash is requested; ipfs can look among the peers or serve from the URL.
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<MrJiks> ion: Imagine if you want to store 'http://page.com/a.png'; you have to download the file and add it to the network. Instead, if we could have added the URL, so that the system will automatically download, create the hash and also provide the link to the resource along with the hash; when the resource is requested it can also be served from the URL.
<ion> MrJiks: The content behind that URL can change, though.
<MrJiks> ion: I understand. Think I read somewhere that downloaded file will be cross checked for hash match?
<ion> IPFS implementations only accept downloaded data after verifying the hash, yes.
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<MrJiks> ion: Then, isn't being able to add a remote location a way to make ipfs more wide?
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<achin> can someone try to resolve this ipns name? QmbuG3dYjX5KjfAMaFQEPrRmTRkJupNUGRn1DXCgKK5ogD
<ion> achin: Took 60 seconds, /ipfs/QmbRrHgztvt7MXtxwW1WKNLnnjLgmhrYc4mebghwxdEKim
<achin> thanks
<MrJiks> /ipfs/QmUDhU2C4u9sTSz7oQSwKgP9KfJM8jKwLck9d1YjgHAaYU
<MrJiks> This also?
<ion> achin: I’m failing to resolve it now.
<MrJiks> Seems unless many, nodes maintain the file; this is going to take a long time.
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<achin> something's gone wrong with ipns recently
<MrJiks> ion: But I am able to access it locally, could it be that its because that file is only available in my system?
<achin> frequently ipfs still just hang forever try to do a publish (cc whyrusleeping)
<MrJiks> achin: it used to resolve quickly?
<MrJiks> It might have been cool if there was a bot here; who will check an ipfs link & respond with status right?
<ion> MrJiks: You could try loading it on the public gateway. https://ipfs.io/ipfs/<hash>
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<MrJiks> ion: I did.
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<M-fil> MrJiks you know you can add contents that is not a "file", like so: curl (http…) | ipfs add
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<kzimmermann> Hello, is there a way to bookmark hashes in ipfs? So far I h
<kzimmermann> Have been writing them down elsewhere in order not to forget them
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<ion> You could pin them, or create an object which links to them and have that object pinned.
<kzimmermann> Make that kind of object that is mutable with ipns?
<kzimmermann> Nifty solution
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<whyrusleeping> achin: hangs forever?
<whyrusleeping> kzimmermann: we will have an easier way once o.4.0 ships
<kzimmermann> I see that pinning and ipfs pin ls doesnt give out information on what is pinned though
<whyrusleeping> in 0.4.0 we have the 'files' api
<kzimmermann> whyrusleeping: great news!
<whyrusleeping> lets you do things like 'ipfs files cp /ipfs/QmABC /path/in/virtual/filesystem'
<ion> nice
<kzimmermann> Nice! Is this in a beta somewhere? Id love to try
<ion> Is the /path rooted in the node’s IPNS path? How about when you have multiple keys? cp /ipfs/QmABC /ipns/KeyD/path?
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<achin> whyrusleeping: i'm not sure about "forever", but hung for at least ~16 hours
<whyrusleeping> thats forever
<whyrusleeping> kzimmermann: its on the dev0.4.0 branch
<whyrusleeping> you can give it a shot if you build from source
<whyrusleeping> ion: that path is separate from your ipns path
<whyrusleeping> its more of a local 'workspace'
<ion> whyrusleeping: Ok. So you publish a hash you get out of that separately.
<kzimmermann> Will do, that will probably whet my appetite for learning some Go as well.
<ion> whyrusleeping: Is the root of the “workspace” pinned automatically?
<whyrusleeping> ion: yeah
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<ion> whyrusleeping: This would be a great replacement for pinning, wouldn’t it? You would get per-application pins just by applications having a virtual directory in which they can add objects, named in any way useful for the application.
<ion> whyrusleeping: And you could name your personal pins by adding them with a name of your choice
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<whyrusleeping> hrmmmm
<whyrusleeping> thats not a bad idea
<ion> /.pins/personal/achins_RFC_archive, /.pins/applications/chromium/ipfs.io
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<ion> whyrusleeping: Previous pins could be migrated by just naming them after their hash.
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #114: Update react-router to version 1.0.1
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<computerfreak> guys? whats the comand of downloading a Folder out of ipfs ? like ipfs pull <hash of folder> ?
<ion> ipfs get <hash>
<jbenet> ion whyrusleeping: that is the plan with the repo in general--- there will be $repo/files and $repo/pins -- thing can be in both
<multivac> jbenet: 2015-12-05 - 13:56:55 <ion> tell jbenet Re: the DAG traversal notation, perhaps it would be good to define it as an abstract syntax tree first. They are easy to produce in programming languages (without invoking a parser at runtime) and they are what a binary (de)serializer inputs/outputs. When the perfect AST structure is established, then define a corresponding canonical regexp-like syntax. All the special characters (which will need
<multivac> jbenet: 2015-12-05 - 13:57:21 <ion> tell jbenet …to be escaped in path components) will be defined just once (because the underlying AST is already set in stone).
<jbenet> $repo will be the root of the state of your ipfs node
<ion> jbenet: nice
<computerfreak> thx
<jbenet> ion: that o/ sounds interesting, just put all relevant discussion on github
<jbenet> irc is hard to keep track of for high SNR discussion
<whyrusleeping> i hate http
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<whyrusleeping> this multipart crap is getting really annoying
<ion> jbenet: Now to figure out which one of the 100 repositories holds the relevant issue. :-P
<jbenet> ion: all random things like this is notes https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/12
<ion> jbenet: Thanks
<jbenet> ion: also, i hear there's search engines. they work pretty well, they say https://www.google.com/search?q=ipfs+dag+path+notation
<computerfreak> where does it save ipfs get <hash> ?
<jbenet> ;P
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<ion> I have had tremendous lack of success finding IPFS-related issues with Google. :-P
<jbenet> :(
<jbenet> brb
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<ion> computerfreak: In the current directory.
<computerfreak> oh ok
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<computerfreak> so on $home standard
<ion> If you are in $HOME when running the command, yes.
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<computerfreak> now i just need to execute this in Qt :)
<ion> You should be able to use the --output parameter to set a custom path.
<ion> Or use the HTTP API instead of the CLI API.
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<computerfreak> so /ipfs/get/<hash> ?
<ion> I mean, you still have to give an output parameter, but working with URLs and HTTP requests may or may not be nicer than executing system commands.
<computerfreak> i agree
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Dignifiedquire opened pull request #2042: Start fixing appveyor (appveyor...app) http://git.io/vRzqO
<ipfsbot> [webui] Dignifiedquire closed pull request #114: Update react-router to version 1.0.1
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<computerfreak> who is admin of https://www.transifex.com/ipfs/ipfs ?
<computerfreak> pls add me to the german team
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<dignifiedquire> computerfreak: what’s your username on there?
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<computerfreak> crazysoldier
<computerfreak> ah nvm
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