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<whyrusleeping> ah, right
<whyrusleeping> well, 2011 will help make castor faster in either case
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<whyrusleeping> daviddias: wheres the code you use to fetch things from npm?
<whyrusleeping> and store them into ipfs?
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<lgierth> registry-mirror, registry-static, ipfs-blob-store
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<speewave> So where does a lot of foundational conversation go for the IPFS project? is it here or Github or?
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<lgierth> speewave: we try to keep it in github issues
<lgierth> the ipfs/ipfs, faq, notes, specs repos in particular
<speewave> I had an idea for a format\protocl\thing that i was thinking about, and i wasn't sure where would be the best
<lgierth> probably in notes
<speewave> ok cool thanks
<lgierth> that one's for random or concrete ideas
<speewave> Should i get a working implementation running before bringing it up?
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<lgierth> it you want to, sure :P
<lgierth> but it's also fine to just bounce ideas
<speewave> Got it, thanks... now that schools coming to an end i'll try to hang around, found out about this from /g/ and i absolutely love it
<lgierth> i do too :)
<lgierth> plenty of things done right
<lgierth> and so much to do
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<speewave> i know, i'm quite excited about it, would love to get involved before all the cool projects\ideas for it get taken up :P
<speewave> Well i gotta run, i'll be around!
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<zignig> whyrusleeping: o/
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<whyrusleeping> zignig: eyo!
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<whyrusleeping> daviddias: poke
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<whyrusleeping> anyone know how to get to gmail now that it auto forwards to inbox?
<whyrusleeping> i cant get to my google apps account anymore... -.-
<deltab> "Redirect Gmail to Inbox: there is now a setting to redirect gmail.com and mail.google.com links to inbox.google.com (this setting is only available in Inbox, not in Gmail). If you want to visit Gmail from Inbox, navigate to the Main Menu -> Go to Gmail." — https://productforums.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=topic/inbox/oBCfxWbnbTU#!topic/inbox/oBCfxWbnbTU
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<alu> yo I'm at a bitcoin meetup here in hollywood
<alu> any burning questions come to mind? this talk is extremely informative
<alu> I love IPFS but I Was wondering if theres a way we can explore hashes
<alu> how are these hashes stored? its kind of a mess
<alu> old hashes get stale sometimes
<alu> There should be a way we can see into the network
<alu> OH! the webui?
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<alu> i wanna see da frontend >.<
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<alu> dude the webui is really refreshing to use
<alu> but the drag and drop files thing isn't working
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<whyrusleeping> alu: the webui has a set of changes that isnt pushed out yet
<whyrusleeping> its gorgeous and really nice :)
<alu> i wanna see da g;pbe
<alu> globe
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<whyrusleeping> blame tperson for me being absent this evening
<whyrusleeping> he sent me a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle of the seattle skyline
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<computerfreak> morning
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<whyrusleeping> g'mornin
<computerfreak> so u are also from EU ? ;)
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<computerfreak> ah stockholm i see , many good vpns there ;)
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/no-flush-files (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vRUea
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/no-flush-files 51a0a36 Jeromy: add option to disable flushing files structure on writes...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2025: add option to disable flushing files structure on writes (dev0.4.0...feat/no-flush-files) http://git.io/vRUfJ
<whyrusleeping> computerfreak: haha, i'm actually from the west coast of the us
<whyrusleeping> but yeah, vpns can be nice
<ion> Ideas for giving whyrusleeping something fun without incentivizing him too much: a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle of a well known shock picture.
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<whyrusleeping> <.<
<whyrusleeping> i'm wanting to go to sleep right now
<whyrusleeping> but i'm still wide awake...
<whyrusleeping> its unfortunate
<whyrusleeping> at this point i'm just waiting for daviddias to wake up
<computerfreak> stop drugs maan :P
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<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: good morning ;)
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: or rather good night?
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<whyrusleeping> yeah... its morning at this point
<whyrusleeping> computerfreak: i'm tryin! but i cant kick the caffiene
<whyrusleeping> i'm pretty sure real drugs would be harder to kick than coffee. mostly due to price, availability, and stigma
<whyrusleeping> coffee isnt just socially acceptable, its required in most places
<ulrichard> I'm new to ipfs. When I add something on one computer, and try to cat the ref on another, the process just blocks (12 hours so far). Only then I realized that the daemon on the uploading machine crashed. Will there be a warning in the future?
<M-davidar> whyrusleeping: eschew convention!
<whyrusleeping> ulrichard: thats a hard one to get the UX right for
<whyrusleeping> M-davidar: ehhh, i have no desire to stop drinking coffee :D
<whyrusleeping> ulrichard: the issue is that its pretty hard to tell that you are never going to find a given piece of data
<whyrusleeping> (also, the daemon crashed? mind giving more details there?)
* M-davidar gets the intervention stick
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<whyrusleeping> o.o
<computerfreak> whyrusleeping: right, coffee is one of the hardest drugs, because , u said it already, its accepted and required .
<ulrichard> whyrusleeping: unfortunately it's in tmux, so I can't scroll back. Is there a log file I could upload?
<whyrusleeping> ulrichard: hrm... no. we log to stderr :/
<whyrusleeping> restart it with 'ipfs daemon 2> ipfs.log'
<ulrichard> whyrusleeping, Ok, will redirect for the next time...
<eater> ulrichard: ^B [ ?
<M-davidar> I avoid coffee, since I figure my sleep cycle is already screwed up enough as it is :p
<whyrusleeping> yeah... i normally use coffee to help force a sleep schedule
<M-davidar> ulrichard (IRC): or even ctrl-b <scroll wheel up>
<whyrusleeping> but i was home for last week and didnt drink much
<M-davidar> whyrusleeping (IRC): how's that working for you now? :p
<whyrusleeping> so my usual amount has hit me way higher today
<computerfreak> btw howto output stderr ? can i somehow put it into zenity --info ?
<whyrusleeping> zenity?
<daviddias> morning everyone
<multivac> daviddias: 2015-12-01 - 23:39:22 <dignifiedquire> tell daviddias I neeeeed npm on ipfs, npm installs are so slooooooooooow
<dignifiedquire> good morning daviddias
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: sorry kept you waiting, I was exhausted last night, crashed and slept like a baby
<computerfreak> zenity is just a simple gui output for linux shell ..
<daviddias> imagine a world where all package managers are content address
<daviddias> won't it be so great? :D
<computerfreak> like zenity --tite --text
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: nothing to be sorry about, I’m exhausted this morning cause I didn’t go to sleep like a baby
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: tbh only if I still can match “mypackackage@v3.1.1” to “somelongrandomhash"
<dignifiedquire> withouth having to ever think about the hash
<dignifiedquire> otherwise it’s just a much worse experience
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<daviddias> for sure, not breaking user land is priority (which we aren't :) )
<dignifiedquire> which is why I love the concept of npm on ipfs :)
<dignifiedquire> as it gives you the best of both (in theory at least)
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<daviddias> one thing I'm going to find out now, is how long takes to add 300Gb to a IPFS node. @whyrusleeping any projections?
<daviddias> we can make bets
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: do you mean just locally? or until it’s transferred
<daviddias> the node repo is on a 7200Rpm HDD connected by Thunderbolt
<daviddias> just the hashing madness
<whyrusleeping> adding 300gb?
<whyrusleeping> you've got a maximum of 100MB/s for that drive
<whyrusleeping> which is slowing than hashing speed
<whyrusleeping> i'm guessing max speed you'll see no matter what is around 90MB/s
<whyrusleeping> are you gonna run with the flatfs nosync?
<whyrusleeping> if so, i bet you can hit ~%80 of that number, so 75MB/s or so
<daviddias> 122Mb says product description
<whyrusleeping> if memory building and leaks didnt get in the way, i'm betting you could add that in under three hours
<daviddias> flatfs and nosync aren't separated things?
<daviddias> how can I activate that?
<whyrusleeping> flatfs is the repo we use, you dont have to activate it
<whyrusleeping> the nosync is that Datastore.NoSync option
<whyrusleeping> set that to true in your ipfs config before starting the daemon
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<daviddias> it is going :)
<daviddias> I should twitch this
<M-davidar> Twitch plays ipfs!
<whyrusleeping> lol
<whyrusleeping> daviddias: speaking of which, you still want me to do that thing in the morning?
<M-davidar> did twitch ever manage to install arch linux?
<whyrusleeping> M-davidar: i dont recall
<whyrusleeping> i stopped watching after the botnet thing
<daviddias> let's do it
<daviddias> whyrusleeping: dignifiedquire would 5:30pm UTC, 9:30am Pacific Work for you?
<daviddias> I've a call at 6pmUTC/10amPacific, but I was hoping that a video would take at most 15 to 20 minutes, so that we are very focused and other people can also actually watch it
<dignifiedquire> I’m afraid I’m at the hairdresser today at 5:30
<daviddias> when would that finish?
<whyrusleeping> i can do 11:20
<whyrusleeping> busy from 10-11:05ish
<daviddias> what about 7pmUTC, 11am Pacific
<daviddias> ok
<whyrusleeping> sure, i can even try for 11:10 PST
<whyrusleeping> but i'll be driving quickly :D
<dignifiedquire> then let’s aim for 7:15/11:15
<daviddias> 11:20 then
<dignifiedquire> so whyrusleeping is not driving too fast ;)
<whyrusleeping> lol
<whyrusleeping> alright, time to try and sleep
<daviddias> have a good night :)
<whyrusleeping> gnite friends
<dignifiedquire> good luck
<dignifiedquire> nighty nite
<computerfreak> sleep well
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<computerfreak> short question:
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<computerfreak> if i have a directory :<this-hash> with a file inside: <that-hash>
<computerfreak> and i add another file , or modify the existing file , will the directory hash change? or is it still <this-hash> ?
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<daviddias> computerfreak: if you do two ipfs add
<daviddias> it will be two independent files
<computerfreak> well i just watched a video and i think i understand it now :)
<daviddias> but if you use the files API available on dev0.4.0
<daviddias> you can do ipfs files add /dir1/file1
<daviddias> and then ipfs files add /dir1/file2
<daviddias> and when you do ipfs files ls /dir1
<computerfreak> is there any way to link to a directory, without creating new hash of the hole thing?
<daviddias> you will see file1 and file2
<daviddias> links are hashes
<daviddias> if you don't have the hash
<daviddias> you gotta hash it first :)
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<computerfreak> well lets explain for stupids: lets say i have a gui which is a ''file explorrer'' and i have a structure like /root/my-files/FILE.txt . As much as i know, i would access this structure with </root hash> . But how do i keep track of changes inside of the Folders? Lets say someone adds text to > FILE.txt. so </root hash> will become different: </root hash_changed>.
<computerfreak> So how can i tell my gui to watch for the </root hash_changed> and integrate it (sync) to my ''file explorrer'' ?
<daviddias> computerfreak: exactly, you have to bubble up the changes
<daviddias> that is why files api is for
<computerfreak> can u explain on my example files api?
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<computerfreak> sry if i annoy you :P
<daviddias> when you do ipfs files add /a/b/c
<daviddias> and then ipfs files add /a/b/d
<daviddias> it will update b and a accordingly
<daviddias> since the lowest level changes, all the MerkleDAG folder nodes have to change as well
<daviddias> files API offers what we call the "Mutable File System"
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<computerfreak> well that works for my node but how do other nodes receive the change ? who readonly mounts /my-files/ for example and wanna have the new FILE.txt also ?
<computerfreak> or they may just wanna cash my /http/page to keep my page running smoothly ;)
<zaggynl> noes, no ipfs thread
<daviddias> computerfreak: for that, you have to use IPNS
<daviddias> and update the IPNS record to point to the latest hash
<zaggynl> ís the site index still up?
<zaggynl> old link keeps loading indefinitely
<computerfreak> ah ok so with my id, i can make a permanent directory. so other nodes could cash ipfs.ip/ipns/<my_id>/http/page and that would be a permanent link that tracks all changes ?
<computerfreak> zaggynl: well u need to republish every 48 hours or something
<computerfreak> zaggynl: daemon should do that automatic
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<computerfreak> well i try that out ..
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<computerfreak> nice, so the only step to a sync folder with more than one +rw user would be multiple ipfs daemons, one for each folder; so everyone with the private-key for this id from the ''folder daemon'' can get +rw with this. The only limitation would be, only 1 daemon of the same folder can be online, so they should be only activated, if u save a file inside a sync fodler, to publish it.
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<ion> daviddias: Btw, “decode . encode = id” is a stronger property than “decode . encode is idempotent”.
<daviddias> ion: not sure if I follow
<daviddias> decode(encode(a)) === a
<ion> daviddias: “decode . encode is idempotent” means “decode . encode . decode . encode = decode . encode” which does not imply “decode . encode = id”.
<daviddias> I see, so would you suggest to change a specific sentence or just stop using idempotent all together?
<ion> daviddias: You could say “decode is the inverse of encode”. This implies (decode . encode) and (encode . decode) are idempotent but not vice versa.
<daviddias> well, but a codec doesn't has to be symmetric too, right
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<daviddias> decode(encode(a)) !== encode(decode(a))
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<ion> daviddias: I suppose “decode . encode = id” (or “decode (encode a) = a”) is precisely the thing to say then.
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<ion> daviddias: Did you see my comment about sampling and compression yesterday?
<daviddias> didn't get to see it
<daviddias> can I get a link?
<ion> daviddias: botbot was offline at the time, it seems. I'll paste it from my log when I get home.
<daviddias> thank you :)
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vRTBF
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master d49a15f Nick Hamann: Add newline to end of the output for a few commands....
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 1c53aea Juan Benet: Merge pull request #2000 from nham/object_put_newline...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet pushed 3 new commits to dev0.4.0: http://git.io/vRTgF
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/dev0.4.0 1a655a2 rht: Remove chunk channels...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/dev0.4.0 e359ba1 rht: Simplify BalancedLayout test...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/dev0.4.0 63a8e75 Juan Benet: Merge pull request #1973 from rht/no-chunk-channel...
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<ipfsbot> [ipfs] jbenet closed pull request #130: Remove duplicate, capitalize, change link, and add description to FAQ (master...feature/faq-link-update) http://git.io/vBoTO
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<zaggynl> is ipfs-webui currently broken?
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<zaggynl> it errors out on npm install
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<dignifiedquire_> zaggynl: it shouldn’t be, what errors are you getting?
<dignifiedquire_> zaggynl: also are you trying to develop it or just use it, because for using it you don’t need to install it, it comes with your ipfs installation when the daemon is running under localhost:5001/webui
<zaggynl> doh, I did not know that, thanks
<zaggynl> localhost eh, any way to enable it on LAN ip?
<dignifiedquire_> you can proxy it with sth like ngins
<dignifiedquire_> *nginx
<dignifiedquire_> and there are some configs you can change I think
<zaggynl> ah, --api
<zaggynl> is there a proper way to quite the ipfs daemon or should I just kill it
<dignifiedquire_> ctrl+c is the proper way, it will try to shutdown gracefully
<zaggynl> thanks
<zaggynl> hm errors out when I use --api /ip4/lanaddress/tcp/5001
<zaggynl> ill try proxy
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<zaggynl> ssh tunnel works nicely
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<zaggynl> oh wow ipfs tail is busy
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<ion> daviddias: Are you around now?
<daviddias> I'm here :)
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<ion> <ion> daviddias: A small gripe on <http://blog.daviddias.me/2015/09/07/idempotent-encoder-decoder>: “we have to encode ‘samples’ of the input signal and not the signal as a whole. This introduces losses to the signal and is typically known as lossy compression”. Sampling is orthogonal to lossy compression. The losses (not related to compression) in sampling come from the sample rate and the precision of
<ion> each sample. If the sample rate is twice the highest frequency contained in the original signal, literally nothing is lost due to the sample rate. Say, if you can not hear frequencies above 20000 Hz, a sample rate of 40000 Hz is enough for any signal you can hear. The effect of the sample precision can be thought of as additive noise on top of a perfectly reproduced signal. With audio as an example, if you
<ion> amplify a properly done recording at 16 bits to the point where said noise becomes audible to humans, the actual signal will be loud enough to cause pain and ear injury. If you manage to amplify a 24-bit recording enough to make the sampling noise audible, the actual signal will likely kill you. Compression, lossy or not, can be optinally done *to* a signal that has already been sampled.
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<daviddias> easier to review :) and well I mean, the exact change you proposed earlier
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<daviddias> > If the sample rate is twice the highest frequency contained in the original signal
<daviddias> that's Nyquist to avoid aliasing of the signal
<ion> daviddias: I’ll try to get around to it. I won’t have a chance until Friday.
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<daviddias> > a sample rate of 40000 Hz is enough for any signal you can hear.
<daviddias> True, but although we don't notice the difference, there still loss, but I'm not sure if this was your point
<daviddias> sounds good :)
<ion> Aliasing is avoided by filtering any frequencies exceeding the Nyquist frequency before sampling. No information in that filtered signal is lost due to the sample rate, that is a fundamental theorem in sampling.
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<daviddias> I understand
<daviddias> so back to the idempotent question
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<computerfreak> hey guys, i just made the easiest possible gui for ipfs
<computerfreak> the only thing it does is opening webui without browser right now, but maybe i add some more controls
<computerfreak> like a toolbar for the daemon or such
<computerfreak> i started to learn some c++/Qt stuff 1 week ago so feel free to tell me what noob i am ;)
<computerfreak> here we go: https://github.com/crazysoldier/IpfsGui
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<SebastianCB> Could someone tell me if there is currently any way to interact with IPFS (e.g. add / pin) locally via javascript from the browser?
<voxelot> check out the examples
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<SebastianCB> oh wow, thanks for those hints! I thought the JS library isnt there yet, thats why I thought about other hacks. Will give it a try with those directions!
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<voxelot> SebastianCB: Ohh I may have misunderstood the question, if you are looking for a javascript implementation running in the browser it is not there just yet
<voxelot> the api library works with local node running great for now
<SebastianCB> ok just to get you right: that means i can connect from the browser with javascript to my locally running node (go-ipfs) and in this way interact (e.g. add / pin)?
<SebastianCB> i dont need the whole node running in the browser (would be awesome but I can live without for now)
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<voxelot> yup that's how it works atm! and yeah full node in the browser will be awesome
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix pushed 1 new commit to fix/compliantWritableGW: http://git.io/vRISS
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/compliantWritableGW eb204f6 Henry: originalURLPath was renamed
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix force-pushed fix/compliantWritableGW from eb204f6 to b342035: http://git.io/vlGAp
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/compliantWritableGW b342035 Henry: originalURLPath was renamed...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vRIxj
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master aa5532e Chris P: --help: Add a note on using IPFS_PATH to the footer of the helptext....
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 4fd2844 Juan Benet: Merge pull request #1981 from sahib/master...
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<SebastianCB> @volxelot: Could you confirm if the following is the correct approach to yse the IPFS api via javascript in a browser:
<SebastianCB> npm install -g browserify
<SebastianCB> npm install --save ipfs-api
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<SebastianCB> then I created a file called 'loadipfsapi.js': var ipfsAPI = require('ipfs-api')
<SebastianCB> / this file is just used to browserify ipfs-api into a new file which we can then load in the browser
<SebastianCB> var data = [1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6];
<SebastianCB> console.log(data);
<SebastianCB> (2nd line is a comment, last two lines just so that i get some output on load)
<SebastianCB> browserify loadipfsapi.js -o browserifiedipfsapi.js
<SebastianCB> next i stored that file in the same folder as my html
<SebastianCB> and included it:
<SebastianCB> <script type="text/javascript" src="browserifiedipfsapi.js"></script>
<SebastianCB> when opening this page in the browser I expected to have an object called ipfsAPI
<SebastianCB> but there is no such thing....
<SebastianCB> from the chrome console i just get: ipfsAPI Uncaught ReferenceError: ipfsAPI is not defined(…)
<SebastianCB> any help would be great!
<drathir> nickserv should back...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix pushed 1 new commit to fix/compliantWritableGW: http://git.io/vRLOe
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/compliantWritableGW 053e2f2 Henry: writablGW: fix POST /ipfs...
<voxelot> SebastianCB: sorry was out, but yeah that sounds like it should work, are you doing the connect info after you require the api in your loadipfs.js?
<SebastianCB> ok, for some reason that wasnt working but I now successfully manage to get the 2nd version running (integration with <script>)
<voxelot> alternativly you could use the min file. ipfsapi.min.js and load it with var ipfs = window.ipfsAPI('localhost', '5001')
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<voxelot> right
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<uhhyeahbret> whats the latest ipfs news?
<computerfreak> are there other apps than webui already ?
<SebastianCB> @voxelot, thats what i did
<SebastianCB> now for the usual gottta (corsdomain)
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<voxelot> SebastianCB: gald that worked! yup i just do the temp export API_ORIGIN="blahblah"
<voxelot> computerfreak: yeah have you heard of station? https://github.com/ipfs/station
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<SebastianCB> @voxelot: this is what i did now in the browser console:
<SebastianCB> var ipfs = window.ipfsAPI()
<SebastianCB> ipfs.version()
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<SebastianCB> and here i get an error:
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<SebastianCB> Fetch API cannot load http://localhost:5001/api/v0/version?stream-channels=true. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'http://dlabbook.on.ether.camp:8080' is therefore not allowed access. The response had HTTP status code 403.
<voxelot> yeah that's a cors thing
<voxelot> you try doing export API_ORIGIN="*"
<voxelot> ipfs daemon
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<SebastianCB> is there any way of passing that API_ORIGIN as a parameter to the daemon?
<SebastianCB> i am running for now on windows and I have the feeling ipfs doesnt find the environment variable API_ORIGIN
<voxelot> yeah i don't think you can pass that to the daemon in windows, would like to know if anyone has found a solution for that
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<SebastianCB> hm thats a pity :/
<voxelot> whyrusleeping: ping... had your coffee yet?
<SebastianCB> the go-ethereum implementation which has the same problem, allows us to pass it as an argument when starting the node which is super handy
<computerfreak> how is this Station something newer than webui?
<voxelot> yeah --rpccorsdomain
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<voxelot> not sure if ipfs has plans to do this or not but it could mean the difference of people being able to run my apps on windows or not
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix pushed 1 new commit to fix/compliantWritableGW: http://git.io/vRLBE
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/compliantWritableGW a593c1b Henry: writableGateway: fixed last two failing tests...
<SebastianCB> which is a difference of 90% of all PC users being able to run my app or not.....
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<zaggynl> so I've added a file to ipfs, is there a way to get a list of filenames instead of hashes?
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<computerfreak> someone know what this error means: /usr/bin/env: node: No such file or directory
<computerfreak> lol ok maybe install node.js ..
<voxelot> zaggynl: if you add a directory of files and ipfs ls the dir you get back the file names and hash
<zaggynl> yeah I've added a folder recursively and that looks alright
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<computerfreak> someone running station on debian?
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<computerfreak> looks like it cant call node because its called nodejs on debian ..
<SebastianCB> @voxelot: just testing on ubuntu now. I do 'var ipfs = window.ipfsAPI()'
<SebastianCB> but 'ipfs.id()' tells me 'callback is not a function'
<SebastianCB> is this async?
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<SebastianCB> ah ok i figured it ipfs.version(function(aaa,bbb){console.log(bbb);})
<SebastianCB> nice!
<voxelot> SebastianCB: haha awesome! yeah it's looking for a response
<SebastianCB> very happy this works and I'd seriously make efforts to get this going in windows. Its quite a deal breaker otherwise!
<computerfreak> voxelot: any ideas? did u run station for yourself already?
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<voxelot> computerfreak: i haven't actually run station yet
<voxelot> what's the issue, can't get node installed?
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<computerfreak> it cant find /usr/bin/node because on debian there is already a package called node
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<voxelot> computerfreak: try symlinking nodejs to node "ln -s /usr/bin/nodejs /usr/bin/node"
<computerfreak> yeah it solves 1 problem but there is still error ..
<computerfreak> i now reinstall and apt.get purge node
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<computerfreak> npm ERR! weird error 1
<computerfreak> npm WARN This failure might be due to the use of legacy binary "node"
<computerfreak> npm WARN For further explanations, please read
<computerfreak> /usr/share/doc/nodejs/README.Debian
<computerfreak>
<computerfreak> npm ERR! not ok code 0
<computerfreak> npm ERR! weird error 1
<computerfreak> npm WARN This failure might be due to the use of legacy binary "node"
<computerfreak> npm WARN For further explanations, please read
<computerfreak> /usr/share/doc/nodejs/README.Debian
<computerfreak>
<computerfreak> npm ERR! not ok code 0
<computerfreak> i think i surrender ... im going back to Qt and do it myself or integrate some javascript ...
<voxelot> try installing legacy apt-get install nodejs-legacy
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<voxelot> i use nvm to manage my node installations
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet force-pushed v0.4.0-dev from b2695b0 to 63a8e75: http://git.io/vRLhG
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<dignifiedquire_> whyrusleeping: daviddias ready and awake? ;)
<computerfreak> someone on ubuntu here?
<ansuz> ja
<whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire_: running just a hair bit late
<whyrusleeping> they closed my usual route for snow
<computerfreak> wanna try out my first qt app? :)
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: snow Oo
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<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: hangout is ready, just let us know when you are, daviddias isn’t around yet either ;)
<computerfreak> whats the hangout about?
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<ansuz> computerfreak: plz stop PM spamming me
<computerfreak> ok..
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<jbenet> thanks for organizing this guys!
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<zaggynl> and thank you for creating ipfs
<M-fil> +1
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<whyrusleeping> mmmm, coffee
<computerfreak> hey guys, how is that webui built? And is there an ''easy'' way to change something (private) ? currently there are big bundles with alot of unstructured code and i dont understand anything xD
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<whyrusleeping> computerfreak: dignifiedquire would be a good person to ask that
<whyrusleeping> i personally don't know though
<dignifiedquire> computerfreak: it’s a react app,
<dignifiedquire> you can’ clone the repo and run it together with your local daemon and do the mods you want there
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<drathir> whyrusleeping: adding with name was -w?
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<voxelot> anyone know of a way to get the API_ORIGIN set in windows? been any discussion to adding a flag to go-ipfs for this?
<jbenet> zaggynl: thanks-- but thanks should go to the whole community. it's everyone working together that really makes it great
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: jbenet daviddias: https://youtu.be/9UjqJTCg_h4
<drathir> the pinning have any progress switch available?
<computerfreak> well i will try that, thanks dignifiedquire: , but i always getting error with npm /nodejs on debian .. any workaround an that ?
<dignifiedquire> computerfreak: no idea sorry, not touched debian in years
<drathir> computerfreak: debian should have node js in repo...
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<whyrusleeping> computerfreak: you probably have an older version of node
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<computerfreak> well what ive done: uninstalled nodejs, apt-get purge node ; installed nodejs , linked to /usr/bin/node
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<computerfreak> thats all i found
<computerfreak> what distro u guys using?
<zaggynl> ubuntu here
<zaggynl> lts
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<drathir> jessie at servers...
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<drathir> arch at home server...
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<whyrusleeping> if it doesnt run arch, its not a computer i own
<computerfreak> zaggynl: so u are the only ''debian'' guy here, u got nodejs running?
<computerfreak> whyrusleeping: Yeah DIY ;)
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<zaggynl> I'm only using binary from site
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<drathir> guys working for You that ? QmeXKoQJGdtNxf5oiVb2sNkMWjcrmEUWn7q1sdnoVJhecL
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<drathir> computerfreak: nodejk nodejs-legacy and npm should be in jessie if good remember...
<drathir> nodejs*
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<computerfreak> niiice no error now :)
<computerfreak> but warning:
<computerfreak> npm WARN unmet dependency /home/max/webui/node_modules/ipfs-api/node_modules/request/node_modules/http-signature/node_modules/assert-plus,
<computerfreak> npm WARN unmet dependency which is version 0.1.5
<computerfreak> npm WARN unmet dependency /home/max/webui/node_modules/ipfs-api/node_modules/vinyl-multipart-stream/node_modules/vinyl-fs-that-respects-files/node_modules/glob-watcher/node_modules/gaze/node_modules/globule requires lodash@'~1.0.1' but will load
<computerfreak> npm WARN unmet dependency /home/max/webui/node_modules/lodash,
<computerfreak> npm WARN unmet dependency which is version 3.10.1
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<drathir> computerfreak: not sure but good to verify if are not needed older version that why warning...
<dignifiedquire_> computerfreak: you should upgrade npm to the latest
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<computerfreak> damn still binary node error if i try to run :
<computerfreak> npm ERR! weird error 127
<computerfreak> npm WARN This failure might be due to the use of legacy binary "node"
<computerfreak> npm WARN For further explanations, please read
<computerfreak> /usr/share/doc/nodejs/README.Debian
<computerfreak>
<computerfreak> npm ERR! not ok code 0
<computerfreak> it should be latest npm from pakage repo
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<cryptix> add
<cryptix> that never happend...
* cryptix hides
* ansuz subtracts
<ansuz> #yolo
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/no-flush-files: http://git.io/vRqTq
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/no-flush-files 8acf8c9 Jeromy: Reverse option default and add warning to help text...
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<harlan_> nice video on bitswap & coffee
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<whyrusleeping> harlan_: thanks :)
<whyrusleeping> any questions or feedback?
<whyrusleeping> its something we want to do once a week
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<harlan_> awesome. I upvote IPLD next.
<whyrusleeping> lol, i don't know enough about that to make cofee and discuss it at the same time
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<whyrusleeping> but voting on the next topic is great idea
<harlan_> there will be a JS bitswap for browsers I guess?
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping, we should have a place for prople to dend questions and topic ideas to
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<dignifiedquire> and announce that at the beginning and end
<harlan_> maybe could get Juan and whoever on the IPLD one and you could host / ask questions...
<dignifiedquire> maybe we can do 0.4 episode shortly before it's shipping
<dignifiedquire> also this would be nice as a podcast
<dignifiedquire> I will look into how hard it is to generate onr
<harlan_> maybe someone could build a leaderboard on ipns for topics/questions ;)
<dignifiedquire> lol
<dignifiedquire> probably easier to use a gh issue for noe
<harlan_> or that
<whyrusleeping> if anyone has any 'default' options i should add to that, let me know
<whyrusleeping> it doesnt let people see the 'other' options people specify
<dignifiedquire> libp2p
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<harlan_> 0.4.0 development stream?
<dignifiedquire> npm on ipfs by daviddias
<harlan_> +1
<dignifiedquire> with coffee from whyrusleeping
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<whyrusleeping> added libp2p to the options
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<speewave> sorry, just popped in now, you talking about generating a site or service for polling options for this?
<whyrusleeping> nah, just used google forms 'cause i'm lazy
<speewave> cool
<whyrusleeping> but building such a thing on ipfs would be super neat
<dignifiedquire> and questions can be asked in yt comments :)
<whyrusleeping> could be done pretty easily actually
<whyrusleeping> anyone who wants to vote does an 'ipfs add' of the poll's special key file
<whyrusleeping> and then put their vote in a path under their ipns
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<speewave> i know it'd be quick to do it with an API type thing where the site could run on http or ipfs but the poll hangs out on an http server for now
<jedahan> omg there are open opportunities to make this a fulltime thing? ...
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<jedahan> I am definitely tempted to use ipfs as a caching layer for the toy api i build out of the metropolitan museum's collection... http://scrapi.org . Time to experiment :D
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/no-flush-files from 8acf8c9 to 609da78: http://git.io/vRqux
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/no-flush-files 609da78 Jeromy: add option to disable flushing files structure on writes...
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<noffle> whyrusleeping: where can I find this this bitswap video? :o
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<noffle> oh awesome!
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<whyrusleeping> mmm, closenotify seems to work for the gateway..
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<pokeball99> idea:is it possible to implement a option to view files hosted by your peers with just their peer id(or however it would work),with an option to enable/disable the ability poeple who you peer with to view said files( and maybe have it possbile per file too?
<daviddias> Ahaha the video is great, whyrusleeping dignifiedquire
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<pokeball99> it would add even more to what ipfs could do
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<pokeball99> mainly as a kinda built-in "search engine" of files
<pokeball99> whyrusleeping: what do you think on that?
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