aschmahmann changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.7.0 and js-ipfs 0.50.2 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<jadedctrl> rangermauve: hey, congrats!
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<rangermauve> jadedctrl: Thanks. 😁 I'm pretty excited to see what folks make with it
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<redrield[m]> Is there a way to temporarily shutdown a daemon spawned by the desktop app besides just killing the process?
<redrield[m]> Actually it might be a bug with the client on arch or smth because it wasn't showing up in my notification area
<redrield[m]> if that's where I would typically turn it off temorarily
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<scoob[m]> <rangermauve "https://twitter.com/RangerMauve/"> Cool project Mauve!
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<izdihar[m]> hello i have a question, if I host a single file in my computer, will other nodes replicate it or is it just going to sit there forever without anyone replicating it? and also, is IPFS a filesystem where no one can truly delete something until every single node agreed that they dont want to host that file anymore?
<swedneck1> data is only replicated if other nodes request it
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<izdihar[m]> can i make other node request my files for archiving sake?
<swedneck1> you can pay pinning services to replicate your data
<swedneck1> there's also filecoin, but that's apparently not on the main ipfs network
<izdihar[m]> oh so that what pinning means
<swedneck1> pinning just means the data won't be removed during garbage collection
<swedneck1> if you just request some data with go-ipfs, it'll stick around until it gets garbage collected, but if you pin it you have to first un-pin it to remove it
<izdihar[m]> <swedneck1 "pinning just means the data won'"> by the node that's now "owning" the data?
<swedneck1> data isn't owned on IPFS
<swedneck1> nodes just advertise the content they're able to provide
<izdihar[m]> <swedneck1 "nodes just advertise the content"> ah ok
<izdihar[m]> so, if I dont use a pinning service, I could just serve the content with my laptop?
<swedneck1> <izdihar[m] "so, if I dont use a pinning serv"> yep, as long as the laptop is reachable from the internet
<izdihar[m]> i guess this is truly remarkable tech, knowing that literally everyone can be a server
<swedneck1> you can mostly use torrent as a baseline for how IPFS works from a user perspective
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<izdihar[m]> as far as i've read, pinning services basically act like a seeder right? A pinner have the whole files and will give the file for those who requests it?
<izdihar[m]> right now im reading this https://docs.ipfs.io/how-to/pin-files/#three-kinds-of-pins but i think i need to read something different
<swedneck1> not files necessarily, it can just be raw data
<swedneck1> but yes, pinning services just seed the data you pay them to
<izdihar[m]> thanks
<swedneck1> and of course you can just ask people to seed your data
<izdihar[m]> thats true, if i have a company, just make sure every employee install IPFS and seed it for us lul
<swedneck1> if you have something that might be useful to people, you'll probably want to get it added to https://awesome.ipfs.io
<swedneck1> <izdihar[m] "thats true, if i have a company,"> well, presuming you own the devices used for running IPFS :P
<izdihar[m]> have archive.org ever consider ipfs? seems like a sureway for them to know that everything is documented
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<swedneck1> pretty sure they've at least looked at ipfs
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<swedneck1> ah yes: https://dweb.archive.org
<izdihar[m]> <swedneck1 "if you have something that might"> thanks i might use this. shame that there's no functional server thing for ipfs, everyone can just run their own business logic with proof of work and whatnot lul
<swedneck1> <izdihar[m] "thanks i might use this. shame t"> "server thing"?
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<izdihar[m]> i think i might be mistaken of the actual term
<izdihar[m]> oh, i'm thinking of this one
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<swedneck1> don't pinning services fulfill that?
<izdihar[m]> hmm pinning services serve files but doesn't execute code, right?
<swedneck1> yes
<swedneck1> although again, ipfs isn't limited to files
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<Sheogorath[m]> Well, IPFS, as the name indicates is a File system. It would be a bit storage to have arbitrary file execution on a filesystem.
<Sheogorath[m]> *strange not storage
<swedneck1> yeah, i think maybe they're thinking of distributed computing?
<Sheogorath[m]> But I could imagine there are services that just let you point to a cid/ions/dnslink and execute that code in isolation
<swedneck1> <Sheogorath[m] "But I could imagine there are se"> this is where it'd be nice if mounting IPFS/IPNS as a directory worked better
<izdihar[m]> goodbye git pages ipfs is now my new best friend
<swedneck1> github/gitlab pages*
<izdihar[m]> yeah those
<izdihar[m]> thanks for the answers
<swedneck1> but yes, hosting static websites is probably the most obvious use case for ipfs right now
<swedneck1> (aside from sharing files like you would with torrent)
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<inphovore[m]> Has anyone pushed youtube-dl latest to ipfs?
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<swedneck1> not sure about "latest", but i published this: bafybeign4sq7i7f4fexyihec564qf6m5zwstshzb35bnhspvzxerdj5xz4/youtube-downloader.git
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<redrield[m]> not sure if its just me but i just see .git directory things in there, not the actual code
<swedneck1> clone the repo
<redrield[m]> ah alright
<swedneck1> for reference
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