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<tnewman> salutaitons! i've got prometheus recording ipfs metrics, and i see that there is a dashboard for grafana, https://github.com/ipfs/benchmarks/blob/master/infrastructure/grafana/dashboard.json
<tnewman> but that dashboard is configured to use influxDB
<tnewman> i should spend some time figuring out how to create grafana dashboards properly.. but i'm curious if anyone has done something similar already?
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<keep> clear
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<r2d2_> is there a ipfs daemon with a web ui, to share files ?
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<MarvinDrescher[m> webui.ipfs.io is a client for the ipfs api
<swedneck1> you can also install the ipfs-companion extension
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<DavidPrieto[m]> Hey guys
<DavidPrieto[m]> I've been reading a bit about ipfs, and I'd like to make sure I get how it works
<DavidPrieto[m]> Let's say I have a blog, and I write an article, and I use ipfs to host it
<DavidPrieto[m]> At the beginning it's only hosted on my computer, so if I delete it, other people can't read it anymore
<DavidPrieto[m]> But if someone else decides to also host it (seed it?) then other people can still read it, even if my computer is down
<DavidPrieto[m]> Is that roughly correct?
<swedneck1> yes, although it'll be seeded by any gateway that is used to view it
<swedneck1> so e.g. if someone uses the ipfs.io gateway, or their own local gateway to view it, it'll be replicated right away
<DavidPrieto[m]> <swedneck1 "yes, although it'll be seeded by"> So, anyone reading it is automatically also hosting it? But they can manually choose to keep hosting it after they close that tab?
<DavidPrieto[m]> Isn't that basically what webtorrent does?
<swedneck1> <DavidPrieto[m] "So, anyone reading it is automat"> almost, it depends entirely on the gateway used to view it
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<swedneck1> e.g. even if i have a local ipfs node, viewing it on ipfs.io won't make my local node do anything
<DavidPrieto[m]> <swedneck1 "e.g. even if i have a local ipfs"> What would need to happen for your node to do anything?
<swedneck1> content seeded like that will be kept until it is garbage collected, which depends on the setup of any specific node
<swedneck1> for content to be kept permanently until manually removed, it needs to be pinned, which can normally only be done by the node operators. You can't force ipfs.io to pin your content, only cache it
<swedneck1> <DavidPrieto[m] "What would need to happen for yo"> either viewing the content via the local gateway, or telling the node to pin the content (e.g. via `ipfs pin add <CID>`)
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<DavidPrieto[m]> <swedneck1 "either viewing the content via t"> So you'd need to give your node a public url (e.g. https://yoururl.io) and then use that url to view the content (e.g. https://yoururl.io/hash)?
<DavidPrieto[m]> Either that or pin it, and then other people could view it by visiting e.g. https://yoururl.io/hash?
<swedneck1> no a public url is not needed, you can just access it via `http://localhost:8080/ipfs/whatever`
<DavidPrieto[m]> Oh
<DavidPrieto[m]> Let's say you give it a public url anyway, and then someone else uses your node to view some content that you haven't explicitly hosted (i.e. you haven't pinned it and you're not viewing it)
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<DavidPrieto[m]> Can they still view the content? Will you node find it and get it for them?
<DavidPrieto[m]> * Can they still view the content? Will your node find it and get it for them?
<swedneck1> it doesn't matter who uses the gateway
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<DavidPrieto[m]> I think I get it
<swedneck1> if your node is in any way told to request content from the network, it will do so and store the data until it runs garbage collection
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<DavidPrieto[m]> So, to give a real-world example. I've read that neocities runs a node, and that all its webpages are stored using ifps
<DavidPrieto[m]> * So, to give a real-world example. I've read that neocities runs a node, and that all its webpages are stored using ipfs
<DavidPrieto[m]> So, if you open neocities.org/ipfs/hash, you can view them?
<swedneck1> well neocities seems to have given up on ipfs, but yes that's how you use a public gateway
<DavidPrieto[m]> Can you also view them if you open ipfs.io/ipfs/hash?
<DavidPrieto[m]> (for the sake of argument, let's imagine neocities still uses ipfs)
<swedneck1> (some gateways might configure things so you access things via example.com/CID, or any other path, but the standard is example.com/ipfs/CID)
<DavidPrieto[m]> <swedneck1 "(some gateways might configure t"> But you can enter the url of any public node, plus the hash, and you'll see the content?
<swedneck1> <DavidPrieto[m] "But you can enter the url of any"> unless something's amiss, yes
<DavidPrieto[m]> That's great
<swedneck1> also important to note that what you mean by hash is actually Content ID
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<swedneck1> the hash is part of the CID
<DavidPrieto[m]> For any kind of content that was ever stored on ipfs and is still being seeded, even if the node you're using wasn't storing it?
<DavidPrieto[m]> <swedneck1 "also important to note that what"> Ok, CID then
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<DavidPrieto[m]> Sorry, I don't really know the terms. I'm still struggling with the concept
<swedneck1> have you looked at https://docs.ipfs.io?
<DavidPrieto[m]> No, but I'm going to. Thanks for the link
<swedneck1> probably best to check docs first, since they usually have answers to many basic questions
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