aschmahmann changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.7.0 and js-ipfs 0.50.2 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<marek> folks, what is the good way to debug the api? I'm trying to POST an add on it but it just hangs
<marek> other api calls such as cat works fine, also command line works fine for adds
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<ipfsbot> cc @cc5566 posted in Possible to resume file upload using go-ipfs if midway network failure? - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/possible-to-resume-file-upload-using-go-ipfs-if-midway-network-failure/9645/1
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<ipfsbot> @yeehi posted in How to bulk copy/paste hashes of files in ipfs-desktop - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/how-to-bulk-copy-paste-hashes-of-files-in-ipfs-desktop/9646/1
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<ipfsbot> @sbonnefoy posted in Testing gossipsub in IPFS - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/testing-gossipsub-in-ipfs/9648/1
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<lokiyo> Hello, im new using IPFS and i would like to know how to setup a private network. I have IPFS Desktop, I know i need to generate a swarm key and delete all default nodes but how to do it on windows? thank you
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<ipfsbot> @christroutner posted in Looking for links: REST API replacement using IPFS - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/looking-for-links-rest-api-replacement-using-ipfs/9650/1
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<RhineDevil> Why does IPFS use as part of its Peer.ID public to anyone any IP address is listening on? Sounds terrible privacy-wise and unnecessary performance-wise
<swedneck> can you clarify what you mean? i'm afraid i don't understand what you're asking
<RhineDevil> "the node's Peer.ID still includes those IP addresses"
<swedneck> the peer ID doesn't contain anything as far as i'm aware, it's just the CID of a public key
<swedneck> are you maybe confusing it with peer IDs having addresses associated with them?
<RhineDevil> swedneck, dunno about that, the document I posted says it includes them. Dunno when it was created though, it may talk about things from a previous revision
<swedneck> also "Peer.ID" is probably taken from the go-ipfs config, just refer to it as "peer ID"
<swedneck> to avoid confusion
<swedneck> and for what it's worth the claim seems false anyway, running `ipfs id` doesn't show `0.0.0.0`
<RhineDevil> whatever. point is, does go-ipfs publish a list of ip addresses it's listening on when connecting to another node, swedneck? According to the link I posted and 2016 kefka comment on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12719771 it dies
<RhineDevil> *it does
<RhineDevil> "In fact, IPFS via the DHT, tells the network of your whole network topology, including internal address you may have, and VPN endpoints too"
<swedneck> that sounds very incorrect
<RhineDevil> swedneck, dunno who should I believe if two people's that don't seem to know each other tell the same thing?
<swedneck> i'd reccomend doing your own research if you want to be 100% certain
<RhineDevil> swedneck, how
<RhineDevil> afaik there's no method of sitting between the ipfs service and whoever it connects to
<swedneck> well the extreme method would be reading and understanding the source code
<RhineDevil> :(
<swedneck> the easier way is doing what i'm doing right now, using ipfs commands to try and get a picture of what it does
<swedneck> and reading the docs
<RhineDevil> swedneck, they said on https://github.com/ipfs-inactive/faq/issues/12 that "Down the road we plan on implementing a TOR-like routing system that may provide anonymity". Any details on what it should look like or what's missing before working on it?
<swedneck> i have no idea about that, i do recall the devs somewhat more recently saying it would be way down the road
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<RhineDevil> swedneck, what do they prioritize now
<swedneck> as for your original question this is what seems to be going on:
<swedneck> go-ipfs does publish your internal addresses, but it can be configured not to
<swedneck> i suspect it has to publish them for other nodes on the local network to be able to reach it, but then there
<swedneck> * i suspect it has to publish them for other nodes on the local network to be able to reach it, but then there's mdns and stuff so i'm not sure
<RhineDevil> swedneck, is it possible that in 2016 there wasn't such an option?
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<swedneck> that could be the case
<swedneck> could theoretically build go-ipfs as it was then, and chech
<swedneck> check*
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<RhineDevil> swedneck, let's say I had it listening on two interfaces, on i2p and on the clearnet. If I understood right I can decide to be reachable on only one address, right?
<RhineDevil> And by that I mean
<swedneck> off the top of my head i don't see why it wouldn't be reachable on both, though obviously only on the respective network
<swedneck> i.e. i2p can only reach it over i2p and clearnet only over clearnet
<RhineDevil> swedneck, cause I'd set it to not reveal its normal public address
<RhineDevil> or Tor if you like
<RhineDevil> it just... shouldn't reveal its real IP address but be reachable from both I think
<swedneck> hmm, it could be reachable if it can simply act as if it's behind NAT, maybe
<swedneck> this is a bit beyond my knowledge
<RhineDevil> last question, what are ipfs devs working on rn?
<jmsx> if listening or not listening on an available interface is a security concern, the answer would be to configure an environment such that it would be impossible in the first place
<jmsx> and not trust the application to do as you ask
<RhineDevil> jmsx, so having another ipfs daemon? but this means they won't share the chunks database reducing deduplication
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<jmsx> RhineDevil: running your security-considerate IPFS daemon in a VM whose network is restricted to the desired interface, say, or using namespaces / routing domains to achieve what you want
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<jmsx> with mind to the possibility of exploitation; if IPFS is forced to behave in a way that's not intended/configured, can it see the interfaces? can it listen on them if it wanted to?
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<jmsx> also, sharing the data storage between two networks/daemons is very likely something you wouldn't want to do, if your intention is to have those two environments be logically segmented for privacy concerns
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