<xtofury>
ok got some problems with the camera now... UVC works tested out some apps, but now when I try to run http://developer.android.com/training/camera/videobasics.html, it does not allow any of the buttons to work. I've tested camera function with some apps in google play, those work fine, but I get the following in my logcat in eclipse: "cubieboard not have framework config class"
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<betterworse>
Hi guys. Is there any tablet shipped with Allwinner A10/A20 and can dual-boot Ubuntu/Android on sale (in chinese market)? thanks.
<vinifr>
tablet come with Android only
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<dfa>
hello
<dfa>
so i was wondering whether there will be support for RTOS for the A10 soon?
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<burkhar>
I was wondering if there will be support for RTOS on the Allwinner series?
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<steev>
blah. i know my cubieboard2 has shipped, but nfi when it will arrive, i can't really understand what the tracking info is saying. if it's on the way to singapore, or if it was shipped to singapore and has since left to come to the US
<steev>
once i can write to the device without requiring that weird livesuite software, i'll consider it really open
<arokux1>
Tsvetan, will it be possible to buy one A20-SOM-EVB?
<arokux1>
steev, as far as I know the protocol of livesuite is known, you could contribute its implementation
<mripard>
Tsvetan: wow, cool :)
<steev>
arokux1: unfortunately it's outside my skillset, i'm already working on the kernel for 2 other devices
<mripard>
Tsvetan: do you have any A10/A31 boards coming ?
<steev>
not to mention 2 different linux distros work :/
<Tsvetan>
mripard A10 is pin to pin with A20 so A10-SOM will be released
<Tsvetan>
there will be no A31 sorry
<mripard>
np :)
<mripard>
it's just that you mentionned it some time ago, I just wanted to know if it was still on the work :)
<Tsvetan>
but RK3188-SOM is routing now :)
<Tsvetan>
I decided to replace A31 with RK3188
<Tsvetan>
same price but more power
<RaYmAn>
have you been able to get any useful source from RK? So far every release I've seen has had e.g. nand drivers embedded as precompiled objects, which is kind of sad :(
<Tsvetan>
RaYmAn there is some info on linux-rockchip.info with links to GitHub and Picuntu (Ubuntu) running on RK3188
<mripard>
Tsvetan: ok :)
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<arokux1>
mripard, hi! are you interested into looking at the initial usb code for mainline? :)
<RaYmAn>
Tsvetan: okay, so I guess that's a no then. Fair enough
<Tsvetan>
RaYmAn I really do not follow close the development
<Tsvetan>
but if there is something new it will go to the wiki
<mripard>
arokux1: yep, sure
<mripard>
arokux1: vinifr already sent me some patches for me to review, so that might take a bit of time, but go ahead
<arokux1>
mripard, thanks a lot! (I've sent a link to my tree to the ML yesterday in the evening.)
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<mripard>
arokux1: send me the patches by mail please
<mripard>
it's easier to review, and I'm sure I won't forget about it :)
<arokux1>
mripard, the problem is I also need some commits from Turl 's clk branch. I've cherry picked those and added everything on top of your sunxi-next, so I've thought it will be much easier for you to grab the code in this form.
<arokux1>
mripard, I could send patches, no prob. but what about cherry picked commits from Turl's branch?
<mripard>
arokux1: just send your code
<mripard>
I already have Turl's :)
<arokux1>
mripard, against which of your branches then? sunxi-next doesn't have Turl's commits I need.
<mripard>
well, you said it was on top of sunxi-next
<mripard>
it's fine
<mripard>
just send the few commits you made
<arokux1>
mripard, ok, then!
<arokux1>
mripard, just curious, which A31 board you use for testing?
<arokux1>
(this is unrelated to usb)
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<mripard>
arokux1: the one that has support in Linux :)
<mripard>
the EVK
<arokux1>
mripard, evaluation kit?
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<mripard>
yep
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<wingrime>
arokux1: you get musb?
<arokux1>
wigyori, musb? no, usb host
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<oliv3r>
burkhar your welcome to send patches; but i would expec tthat if the linux-rt patches be applied to the kernel; it should just work
<arokux1>
oliv3r, I was always interested why -rt isn't in mainline, maybe you know?
<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: mini olinuxino's?
<oliv3r>
arokux1: we don't really want to support or work on livesuit though; we have a alpha-ish MTD driver that we are working on :)
<Tsvetan>
oliv3r shhht do not tell anybody ;) but we work also on EUR 15 A13-SOM
<Tsvetan>
with WIFI snap-on which will make it perfect WIFI Linux node with GPIOs to connect IoT
<Tsvetan>
BTW has anybody experience with A20 1Gbit PHY?
<Tsvetan>
we just test the A20-SOM and everything works fine, just the camera and 1Gbit Ethernet need love
<wingrime>
Tsvetan: about last sdk, it have andoird 4.0, but old sdk have 4.2 wtf
<wingrime>
Tsvetan: also, strange greber,etc files with board named RUBIX
<Tsvetan>
yes, these I guess were not intended for us but just were in the cloud account allwinner sent me, looks like A10 reference TV box design
<Tsvetan>
and the Android SDK for it
<wingrime>
Tsvetan: only useful was linux 3.4
<arokux1>
Tsvetan, maybe a stupid question, but how can a kernel hacker take advantage of your Allwinner SOMs to reduce costs for hardware?
<Tsvetan>
arokux1 A20-SOM reduced the time to market, you have A20+memory which is tested and proven to work, then you focus on your app and develop the schematic around A20
<Tsvetan>
which is done on 2 layers and you can make many prototypes without breaking your budged
<oliv3r>
steev: and the nand controller is fully open; you don't _have_ to use it :) livesuit is apile of crap, but not really needed, especially with fel mode where you can load a kernel and run a installer from there in theory;
<focus>
u-boot-sunxi/common/cmd_gpio.c line 30 need to change ulong value; to ulong value=69; or something to prevent uninitialised return value
<Tsvetan>
oliv3r do we have uboot NAND support? I would love if we can load NAND images with uboot instead live/phoenix
<steev>
oliv3r: so i can run an installer from an initramfs in the kernel and overwite what's in the nand? :D
<steev>
because yes, that would be ideal
<oliv3r>
arokux1: i don't know hwy RT is just an option, probably because it modifies the kernel to heavily and irreverably so it can't be simply toggled
<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: a13-som; nice! i mean sshh :)
<arokux1>
Tsvetan, so SoMs are rather interesting for those designing hardware rather then kernel devs?
<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: there was some talk on the ML about the gbit phy
<Tsvetan>
oliv3r I will check
<wingrime>
Tsvetan: better talk with aw engeners to get docs/driver for can/smartcard/pata/dramc/gps (sata phy regs also undocumented)
<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: but it boils down to, 2 options, GMII or RGMII connected to the same pins (emac and gmac share port A, but different mux)
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<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: we did see a GMAC driver in 3.4-lychee (probably same driver as from a31 sdk lychee kernel, as that had it allready)
<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: i think we are getting closer to MTD support which would work for u-boot etc too;
<oliv3r>
mripard: have you heard of the new 'reset' framework?
<mripard>
yes
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<oliv3r>
mripard: is that also to 'enable/disable' stuff?
<oliv3r>
or is it purely to reset stuff
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<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: the SOM lacks a backjup battery for the RTC :p
<mripard>
it's to reset stuff.
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<oliv3r>
mripard: so it's not the framework to look at to enable/disable power to certain area's
<mripard>
nope
<oliv3r>
mripard: i was just wondering arokux1 USB patch, uses the DT to assign some pin to the USB driver, but other IP's do the same, sata has apin to be toggled for powe on the olimex boards
<mripard>
you're searching for the regulator framework
<oliv3r>
ah yeah you mentioned that
<oliv3r>
and a regulator can be used even for just 1 pin?
<oliv3r>
just to enable/disable power?
<mripard>
yes
<oliv3r>
mripard: awesome, thanks :)
<oliv3r>
i'll try to remember :)
<mripard>
it's already what we do for the hackberry phy for example
<oliv3r>
yeah i think the emac PHY will need it too
<arokux1>
and something like this is done for mele usb phy already bu Turl
<Turl>
oliv3r: yeah, we're using it on the hackberry eth phy as mripard said :)
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<arokux1>
is there any smart irc client which would allow to rewind log backwards?
<oliv3r>
IRSSI
<oliv3r>
'PAGE UP'
<oliv3r>
what client are you using right now?
<arokux1>
xchat
<oliv3r>
can't you scroll back with that/
<arokux1>
only if it was on all the time
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<arokux1>
i'd like to scroll back (ideally search) thought the messages I haven't received
<n01>
topic is your friend
<arokux1>
n01, well yes, smth like this, but in a client :)
<oliv3r>
irssi
<oliv3r>
doesn't have search though
<oliv3r>
im' supprised xchat doesn't have a scrollback buffer; last time i checked it had a scrollbar
<oliv3r>
but it needs to obviously be connected
<oliv3r>
there is no client that works in 'offline mode'
<oliv3r>
e.g. scrolls back while you are offline
<oliv3r>
you'd need a BNC for that to work
<arokux1>
it scrolls back, but needs to be on. i'm looking for 'offline mode' client, as logs are kept online it could use those..
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<libv>
arokux1: i run irssi in a screen session on a machine that is remotely accessible and has a high uptime
<oliv3r>
arokux1: there is no such thing as an offline client that retrieves logs, as far as I know
<mnemoc>
moin
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<arokux1>
oliv3r, ok, thanks
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<arokux1>
kernel source from sdk 2.0 has some interesting stuff for usb host
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<hramrach>
moin
<hramrach>
anybody else has kerenl panic with recent 3.4 stage on a10 when mali is loaded?
<oliv3r>
arokux1: sdk 2.0 confirmed we are dealing with a mentor IP for usb-otg
<hramrach>
well, I not only load it but also run gnome-shell
<arokux1>
oliv3r, what?
<oliv3r>
arokux1: the kernel had comments in it refering to the usb-otg IP-core
<oliv3r>
so we now know for sure where it's bought from
<oliv3r>
and thus we know the driver we use is the right one
<rellla>
hramrach: did you try ssvb's fix from ml?
<arokux1>
oliv3r, oh, now I've got it.
<arokux1>
oliv3r, I was talking about usb host though. the new code shows even more code can be dropped. I also was getting to this but was unsure, now I have it confirmed, so will send patches soon.
<mnemoc>
includes deprecated android-specific features
<mnemoc>
like wakelocks, etc
<mnemoc>
so it's easier for vendors to drop-in their junk
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<mnemoc>
sunxi-3.4 was made from the not-compat tree
<mnemoc>
and we have fixed the compat-ness issues
<mnemoc>
trying to get the code closer to mainline
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<arokux1>
mnemoc, I see. how would you proceed to add kernel from sdk 2.0 to our repo?
<mnemoc>
we don't
<mnemoc>
we use allwinner trees as reference
<mnemoc>
we can't just merge their crap without serious thinking on each chunk
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<arokux1>
mnemoc, yes, of course. the question is how to add their code, so that commits get identified and their junk is on top, so we see what was added?
<mnemoc>
i usually start by rebasing their stuff on top of the reference branch, android-3.4-compat in this case
<mnemoc>
to flatten it
<arokux1>
mnemoc, I see. research shows -compat is worse, produces more then 2k items with diff -qr
<arokux1>
with android-3.4, "diff -qr ... | wc -l" gives only 433 items
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<arokux1>
mnemoc, is there an official tree for that? "+ backported cortex-a7 support"
<mnemoc>
arokux1: import/lichee-3.3 branches in amery's github
<arokux>
techn__, to which site would you like me to upload it?
<techn__>
dunno.. its too pig for paste sites? :)
<techn__>
big
<mnemoc>
it's a pig too
<oliv3r>
should be a cleaner way to diff it
<oliv3r>
like mnemoc did before
<arokux>
techn__, yes, too big.
<oliv3r>
i sincierly doubt that they did a whole lot of work
<arokux>
oliv3r, suggestions are welcome, that is why I've sent the e-mail
<mnemoc>
if you have git history rebase it upon the reference-3.4 branch
<arokux>
oliv3r, no.. there is old wireless driver, for example
<arokux>
mnemoc, the result will be even worth
<arokux>
mnemoc, worse*
<oliv3r>
what email?
<mnemoc>
reference-3.4 is androidized
<oliv3r>
i'm too tired to check more e-mail :)
<arokux>
mnemoc, I diffed against android
<mnemoc>
arokux: rebase so we can see the history AND compare with what we have
<mnemoc>
bulk diffs don't have too much value
<mnemoc>
considering we already have a lot of the code
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<oliv3r>
diffs are only usefull per driver level
<arokux>
mnemoc, this was RFC rather. so ok, I'll do rebase. in my understanding I should checkout ref-3.4 (or some other commit) then copy AW code on top of it and commit, right?
<mnemoc>
no
<oliv3r>
i beilve we got sdk + history?
<arokux>
history? what history? just code
<mnemoc>
git log
<mnemoc>
rebase is only possible if you have history