<libv>
oliv3r: yup, because people are too lazy to properly implement synchronization between the different engines
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<hipboi_>
Turl, evil :)
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<mnemoc>
moin
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<andoma>
'lo
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<oliv3r>
mornin' you two and the rest
<oliv3r>
arokux1: btw, you should be a little nicer to people on the ML; while technically you are right, you are making possible contributers shy/mad and make them commit nothing anymore
<mnemoc>
ack
<mnemoc>
reply properly and kindly "remind" them how to properly answer an email and direct them to netiquette info
<oliv3r>
though the guy who kept replying top was annoying
<oliv3r>
i'l look at the i2c para patch and guide him a bit more :)
<mnemoc>
yes, he deserves to be slaped
<mnemoc>
but we can't
<rm>
can't slap people over the internet
<rm>
that's the unfortunate shortcoming we all have to live with
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<balage>
hello everybody I am back :) yesterday I tried booting 3.0.76 agains with the latest fex file and everything was working (usb bus, wifi, etc), however it seems doesn't matter how I compile 3.4.61+ then some usb buses doesn't work -> no wifi, no usb keyboard
<balage>
I am open for advices :)
<rm>
what board, at least?...
<n01>
'moooonin
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<balage>
rm, hackberry A10, arokux1 and oliv3r helped last week but I couldn't make it work
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: i think 3.0 should be upgraded to 3.0.96
<focus>
quick question - does the linux kernel compiled using http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps run equally well on A10 single core and A20 dual core - or does it need to be told before compiling which cpu it is compiling for?
<steev>
i'm a gentoo developer so i'm *kinda* active on it
<oliv3r>
steev: for some reason I seem to remember your name on some bug reports :p
<steev>
yah
<oliv3r>
<- 12 year gentoo user
<steev>
<- 8 year gentoo developer
<steev>
stop slacking and do them quizes
<oliv3r>
:D
<steev>
become a developer, have even less free time
<oliv3r>
i have no free time, what are you talking about
<steev>
me either :(
<oliv3r>
and all these new things in gentoo are costing me time
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<steev>
i try to squeeze things in here and there, based on how convenient it is and/or how close the hardware is
<oliv3r>
'enp0s1d33 shit' etc :)
<steev>
ah right, netif.rename=0
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<oliv3r>
yeah
<oliv3r>
i really tried to use it! I really did, but it's annoying like hell
<steev>
add that to kernel command line and eb done with it
<steev>
i f'n hate it
<oliv3r>
yeah
<steev>
no idea who's bright idea that was
<steev>
but i'd guess lennart
<oliv3r>
leonard?
<oliv3r>
oh that
<oliv3r>
:p
<oliv3r>
the idea behind it isn't horrible
<steev>
he's the new davidz
<steev>
davidz being behind hal
<oliv3r>
'predictable nearly always the same name' what could possibly go wrong (tm)
<steev>
and then DeviceKit
<JohnDoe_71Rus>
oliv3r: hackers is a good guy
<oliv3r>
JohnDoe_71Rus: absolutly, crackers are the bad guys
<steev>
give it up, the media took over the name, you're not gonna take it back
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<oliv3r>
steev: ignorance is bliss; ignore the media
<mnemoc>
hate drivers/usb/serial/option.c!
<mnemoc>
every freaking time I get conflicts there
<ynezz>
upstream :)
<mnemoc>
it's aw's hackery there conflicting upstream updates
<mnemoc>
good 3.10 won't have that issue
<steev>
do they actually do 3G stuff? why are they touching option?
<mnemoc>
usb dongle support
<mnemoc>
but in the a31s branch things are even worse
<mnemoc>
as they are aiming at phones....
<mnemoc>
so there they really screwed up everything
<mnemoc>
merging every crap driver they managed to find
<mnemoc>
and a ton of blobs
<eagles0513875>
nice to see cubieboard 2 getting support added to build root :)
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<n01>
eagles0513875: in a couple of days there will be also support in buildroot for mainline kernel
<n01>
I'm almost done with that also
<n01>
ok, rephrase, in a couple of days I'll submit the patches
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<mnemoc>
nice :)
<eagles0513875>
n01: cubieboard2 support already seems to be there
<eagles0513875>
in buildroot that is
<mnemoc>
cb2 is just a20.... no reason to distinguish per-board :(
<n01>
eagles0513875: mainline kernel not the sunxi one
<n01>
mnemoc: well, DTS is board specific
<n01>
and since I usa it in defconfig the recipe is board specific
<mnemoc>
the point of DTS is to pass it from the bootloader, having the same bin for a bunch of armv7 boards
<mnemoc>
embedding the DTS kills the purpose
<n01>
mnemoc: in buildroot recipe you have to specify which DTS are you going to use, this also to use easy script for sd card img generation and such. this makes the buildroot config board-specific
<mnemoc>
ok
<mripard>
n01: you can provide several DTS to build in your configuration
<mripard>
so you could very well setup a common cubieboard configuration, that builds the two DTBs
<n01>
mripard: yes, but I'm using some script to generate boot.cmd and the sd card img
<n01>
in that case I need at least one specific dts
<mripard>
then it's your script that has a problem, not buildroot :)
<mnemoc>
*g*
<n01>
cite "this also to use easy script for sd card img generation and such"
<eagles0513875>
let me know if you need any testers n01
<n01>
I can make it generic of course
<n01>
eagles0513875: ok
<mripard>
n01: or you can just put all the DTBs in your boot partition, and let u-boot know which one is needed
<mripard>
you'll have to generate different versions of u-boot thouggh.
<n01>
mnemoc mripard, also isn't the uboot defconfig different between cb1 and cb2?
<n01>
:)
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<mnemoc>
n01: but you are forcing also different kernels
<mnemoc>
which is not necesary
<mnemoc>
in 3.10 or mainline
<n01>
not different kernel, just different DTS
<mnemoc>
since you are embedding the DTB it becomes a different kernel bin
<n01>
the br config is identical for cb1 and cb2, but u-boot defconfig and DTS
<n01>
mnemoc: well, yes
<mnemoc>
u-boot and DTB are not supposed to be updated often, kernel does
<n01>
so what are you suggesting?
<mnemoc>
copying the .dtb to the boot partition
<mnemoc>
and making u-boot load it
<n01>
ok but still I have to compile board-specific u-boot
<mnemoc>
until u-boot learns to read dram timming and leds from the .dtb, yes
<mnemoc>
we can distingush sunxi soc versions just by reading a register. but not the dram stuff :<
<n01>
ok, so back again, I still have two different board-specific defconfigs
<mnemoc>
no
<mnemoc>
don't mix things
<n01>
defconfigs ==> buildroot defconfig
<mnemoc>
ok....
<n01>
for kernel is always multi_v7
<mnemoc>
as long as you don't embed the .dtb people can update their installation without caring about the board or touching the bootloader
<n01>
I know, but here we are talking about using buildroot to generate everything, kernel, rootfs and bootloader
<mnemoc>
u-boot-sunxi needs to learn to read the dram timmings from a file :\
<n01>
at least the first time you have to generate everything
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<oliv3r>
wingrime: i looked, but not sure what they could mean
<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: Turl A80 is extremly, very likly to be powerVR based
<oliv3r>
it's a31 based, it's what we would have called a51
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<oliv3r>
but only time will tell of course
<wingrime>
oliv3r: bist regs should do sram self-test
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<wingrime>
oliv3r: counters must count sram access count
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<wingrime>
ls
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<mouchon2>
hello
<mouchon2>
tried to send my i2c patch but seem that i still do something wrong
<mouchon2>
i try git send-email but as i don't know to wich address to send i use my own address and cut-and past on the web interface the result. It seem that tabs are lost doing this
<mouchon2>
so my question is which address should i use ?
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<Cubear>
evening
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<wingrime_>
mouchon2: dev@linux-sunxi.org
<mouchon2>
wingrime tanks for the info
<wingrime_>
oliv3r: wtf media tek have big.LITTLE?
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<pacopad>
hi All, i'm playing with xbmca10 and new cedars blobs , i succeed to compile xbmc but it fails to open the decoder :21:23:31 T:2907694144 ERROR: A10: open failed. (-4)
<pacopad>
does someone has an idea to correct this ?
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<oliv3r>
wingrime: everybody now :p only AW doesn't have it; and the one that does is powervr
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<oliv3r>
not to future self: booboo happens between these two commits
<oliv3r>
Previous HEAD position was e5c81f5... pinctrl: core: Hold pctldev->mutex mutex lock while traversing gpio_ranges list
<oliv3r>
HEAD is now at 972a590... pinctrl: improve warning messages
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<oliv3r>
Tsvetan: a1d34b5 pinctrl: core: Hold pinctrldev_list_mutex mutex while traversing pinctrldev_list
<oliv3r>
Turl: a1d34b5 pinctrl: core: Hold pinctrldev_list_mutex mutex while traversing pinctrldev_list