<libv>
integfred: please help improve that page, not much more is needed
<integfred>
plaes: it says 3.5mm headphone plug, so does this mean I can't plug a headset with a mic into it?
<plaes>
dunno, I don't have this HW
<plaes>
but it should be quite easy to test
<integfred>
Yes, maybe I'll do that sometime.
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<plaes>
would be helpful to see nicer pics from PCB (and connector side)
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<integfred>
Yes, maybe I'll do that too. I don't really intend to open it up again though...
<libv>
Q8 is easy to open
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<plaes>
easiest way is to check how many traces go into the 3.5mm connector
<integfred>
I think it's probably easier to check in software.
<integfred>
;)
<integfred>
But I'm lazy. :)
<integfred>
Let me see if it's charged.
<integfred>
I got arch linux arm working on it about a year ago.
<integfred>
Haven't really used it since.
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<integfred>
well it's booting into alarm
<integfred>
I better take the sdcard out.
<integfred>
libv, I don't want to make an account to edit the wiki, but I can tell you some things from here?
<libv>
integfred: aw, come on, you have gained tons from that wiki already
<integfred>
hmm, androids taking a long time to boot.
<integfred>
not booting into android for some reason.
<libv>
:(((
<integfred>
it has no charge, so maybe that's why it's not booting (whilst plugged into the mains).
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<integfred>
Well I'll leave it on charge. I made a note of some of the information on a usb key, I have that somewhere, so if everything fails, I can find that instead.
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<MoeIcenowy>
Orz
<MoeIcenowy>
I uploaded a 20.6MP photo to linux-sunxi
<MoeIcenowy>
and thumbnails failed to create
<MoeIcenowy>
then I resized it locally and re-uploaded
<libv>
MoeIcenowy: why would you want such a huge photo?
<libv>
right
<MoeIcenowy>
I tried to shoot the A33 SoC
<MoeIcenowy>
and forgot to switch back the resolution for buttons
<MoeIcenowy>
(but I still failed to shoot it
<MoeIcenowy>
(then my roommate shoot it using his camera
<libv>
vickycq: yeah, thanks for throwing the foxconn variant of the banana pi in our wiki
<libv>
this makes the worst shit pi story a whole lot clearer :)
<libv>
foxconn vs sinovoip vs lemaker...
<vickycq>
And lemaker now has their own verison of Banana Pi, sharing similar PCB layout with Banana Pro
<vickycq>
Yeah, everyone wants to make quick money.
<libv>
sadly that quick money is mostly based on the people of the linux community
<libv>
and ends up giving us more work and more dissatisfied users
<libv>
if it weren't for that, this would just be a case of getting out the popcorn
<libv>
but it does stick to us as well
<vickycq>
The PINE64 might be the next example
<libv>
yup
<libv>
they went and contacted us and offered us some alms
<libv>
and then totally ignored our statements about "why don't you support us properly"
<KotCzarny>
flag the worst offenders as #WONTFIX_UNSUPPORTIVE_MAKER ?
<libv>
but at least quite a few people will end up getting those pine64 boards in a while
<libv>
KotCzarny: $shit_pi
<libv>
i should finish writing up that blog entry
<libv>
and i should finish up so many other things that just get interrupted
<vickycq>
Most of these companies have little idea about how to interact with open source community
<libv>
but first i need to make my accountant less whiny, as i need to collect november and december
<KotCzarny>
seriously, flagging them clearly should lower the sales of the worst ones, so more people would be turned to better ones
<libv>
KotCzarny: i and some others have been quite active in that respect
<libv>
but that has not made us many friends, even within this community
<libv>
even though it did provoke quite a few changes in some parties
<KotCzarny>
chinese makers are driven by sales i guess in similar way it happens in western economy
<libv>
yes, but products are much more shortlived and customer support does not seem very important
<libv>
companies are very shortlived too and do not care about building up a proper reputation
<MoeIcenowy>
I've been in the famous Chinese "Shanzhai" market, Huaqiang Road North, in Shenzhen
<MoeIcenowy>
In a mall
<KotCzarny>
that's unfortunate, but still, if more people buy good devices, there will be less work and more happiness overall
<MoeIcenowy>
there're all tablet sellers
<MoeIcenowy>
(In fact, allwinner is now decreasing in the mall
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<MoeIcenowy>
(1 in 10 sellers sells Allwinner devices
<MoeIcenowy>
(9 in 10 sells MediaTek
<KotCzarny>
MoeIcenowy: that's what they get for dropping sata! hah
<MoeIcenowy>
(as MediaTek devices come with 3G/4G basebands
<NiteHawk>
no rockchip?
<MoeIcenowy>
more less than aw
<MoeIcenowy>
I never find one sells rk
<NiteHawk>
i see
<libv>
KotCzarny: people seem very shortsighted and seem to only care about low cost
<NiteHawk>
thought they were doing on a similar level (compared to AW)
<libv>
and then after the damage has been done, they come here
<KotCzarny>
libv: i looked at the best feature set in the good price (its my first arm pc replacement though, not counting nokia n900)
<libv>
have you ever heard of anyone wanting their money back with the banana pi?
<vickycq>
MoeIcenowy: Rockchip is not suitable for dirt cheap tablets(?)
<MoeIcenowy>
vickycq: maybe
<KotCzarny>
libv: next one will be olimex for sure
<MoeIcenowy>
(To be honest, my current development device cost me only RMB 199
<libv>
people also learn that its their own fault not being more informed and clueful
<vickycq>
An RK3288 SoC itself is more expensive than the Orange Pi PC
<MoeIcenowy>
(But I got a quad-core processor
<libv>
which is trye
<libv>
true
<MoeIcenowy>
(and a 7-inch touchscreen
<libv>
but makes it even less like to hurt companies like lemaker
<libv>
likely
<libv>
or their resellers
<vickycq>
MoeIcenowy: wow! quad-core, that must be twice as better as dual-core.
<vickycq>
what a lovely deal
<libv>
the amount of money paid is low enough that the devices just hit a shelf, together with all the other useless cheap toys
<libv>
and for tablets and such, that's quite ok
<libv>
but things like banana pi are often sold with "open source" all over it
<KotCzarny>
libv: im quite happy with the bpi-r1, its stable, no udma crc errors creeeping, switch didnt hang up yet and does my crazy config well, audio works too
<libv>
KotCzarny: how happy are you with the support that the vendor provided you?
<KotCzarny>
libv: none, thanks to you guys (and igorpec)
<libv>
so the answer is "what support?"
<libv>
KotCzarny: so we here are the support department for most banana pi devices
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<MoeIcenowy>
Do you know whether mali binary driver work on H3 official images?
<libv>
nice business model
<MoeIcenowy>
business model...
<KotCzarny>
libv, are those chinese makers bound with ndas or just lazy?
<libv>
lazy and cheap
<MoeIcenowy>
For my first pad ( a no-brand tablet bought in Huaqiang North
<MoeIcenowy>
I can say that I am the OEM
<MoeIcenowy>
as I bought it directly from the device factory
<MoeIcenowy>
(If I want
<KotCzarny>
libv: then all it takes i guess is just setting email bot
<libv>
KotCzarny: ?
<MoeIcenowy>
(I can go to create some tablets with AOSC installed and make my name on it
<KotCzarny>
libv: asking for specs/data till they respond?
<libv>
KotCzarny: we have enough information to make it work
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<KotCzarny>
MoeIcenowy: if you can get super secret stuff that would help linux drivers, then by all means please do ;)
<buZz>
AOSC?
<buZz>
that doesnt reflect anything to me
<buZz>
maybe you ment AOSP?
<buZz>
android open source project
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<MoeIcenowy>
buZz: No
<buZz>
then what?
<MoeIcenowy>
AOSC means Anthon Open Source Community
<GeneralStupid>
rellla: i dont have it right know. iam in the last months of my studies...
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<robogoat>
But I don't seem to be getting anything after "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel."
<rellla>
GeneralStupid: No problem, but then please don't ask, why there is no solution. Though you may ask, IF there is a solution
<GeneralStupid>
rellla: i will and i already said it a few times linux-sunxi did really a great job - without you that device wouldnt working on linux (android maybe)
<atsampson>
robogoat: I usually find that's because I've got the console output directed to the wrong place (e.g. console=tty1 when I'm actually looking at the serial port, or vice versa)
<NiteHawk>
robogoat: FEL-booting u-boot shouldn't be much of a problem. i'd recommend you upgrade to a recent version of sunxi-tools, which should offer you a "./sunxi-fel uboot u-boot-sunxi-with-spl.bin" command for starting up u-boot. there's no need to manually pass an "exe" command (or the related address)
<robogoat>
Ok, I will try that.
<robogoat>
Found it! The address I was looking for was 0x4a000000
<robogoat>
Still not as good as the uboot command,
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<robogoat>
but nifty if early access via a serial console is useful.
<robogoat>
One thing I don't really understand is the whole boot.cmd/boot.scr thing.
<robogoat>
Seems like "compiling" the script doesn't really add that much.
<NiteHawk>
it doesn't. it actually just wraps the script file with a suitable "image" header
<robogoat>
(could just be my naivete, though.
<vagrantc>
the image header provides checksums to verify that the data pulled off the media is not corrupt
<vagrantc>
whch, for some unreliable media, matters more
<robogoat>
Yeah, makes sense.
<vagrantc>
anyone have suggestions on getting a cubieboard4 working with a u-boot capable of loading a mainline kernel with device-tree and all that?
<vagrantc>
the linux-sunxi.org wiki page for cubieboard4 is a bit sparse
<vagrantc>
also have some orange pi plus2 boards i'd like to get running, though i know mainline support for that is weak so far
<robogoat>
Now, question is, how do I just boot into initramfs without trying to mount root.
<KotCzarny>
init=/bin/bash ?
<robogoat>
pfft.
<vagrantc>
depends on your initramfs
<KotCzarny>
edit initramfs /etc/rcS
<KotCzarny>
depending on bootline
<NiteHawk>
shouldn't initramfs automatically become your 'primary' root, until you actually switch_root from there? (that's of course assuming that it has init)
<KotCzarny>
nitehawk, i think he wants to stop the initramfs scripts before
<ssvb>
or he wants initramfs, but does not have it yet
<robogoat>
I want initramfs, but I don't think I have it yet.
<robogoat>
I am trying to use a miniroot initramfs.
<robogoat>
Are there kernel messages to say the initramfs is properly loaded?
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<KotCzarny>
minimal initramfs consists of statically built busybox (with init applet, properly named or symlinked)
<robogoat>
Yes, this is what miniroot is.
<robogoat>
I have an initramfs cpio,
<robogoat>
I think I have found the problem.
<robogoat>
For some reason I think I was missing CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM
<robogoat>
Thank you all for help.
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<robogoat>
Yeah, still not getting into initramfs.
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<vagrantc>
looks like u-boot for orange pi plus is mainlined... now just need kernel
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<ssvb>
wens: no, I have not started with PSCI for H3 yet but just verified that bringing up secondary cores is the same as on A31
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<robogoat>
Yarrr, still having issues here.
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<robogoat>
With mainline u-boot and a 4.3 kernel, should I be passing the initrd=0x<someaddress> to the kernel?
<yann|work>
the Debian one works quite good, but has no hw-specific stuff, and you have to find them by yourself
<vagrantc>
what kernel version?
<vagrantc>
also mostly going for headless, so not worried about graphics so much
<yann|work>
3.4.39 + something not yet determined
* vagrantc
seeks something much closer to mainline
<yann|work>
also note, those images need to be configured by hand, by copying the correct uImage.* and script.bin.*
<yann|work>
ah, I can't help yet on this point :)
<vagrantc>
mainline u-boot seems to work, so that's easy :)
<vagrantc>
there's talk of targeting H3 support in mainline linux 4.5... i'll try and find some preliminary trees relevent for that
<yann|work>
I was also under the impression that http://linux-sunxi.org/H3 was not really uptodate with the level of support of this processor
<ssvb>
vagrantc: afaik people are currently cherry picking the h3 patches
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<ssvb>
vagrantc: from the arm linux mailing list
<vagrantc>
the H3 wiki page seems to have a link to a git branch
<yann|work>
btw, while we're talking about the H3 - the wiki page says there's no PMU in this SoC, can this just be true ? Or is it that "noone found it yet" and it is the reason behind heating to 77°C when mostly idle ?
<yann|work>
vagrantc: links to those were added 1 month ago, apparently at the time mainline uboot did not have the patches
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<ssvb>
yann|work: it's not just h3 support, but a pile of patches of varying quality
<ssvb>
yann|work: that's why I prefer to just select the patches that I need, without pulling all the extra baggage
<yann|work>
ssvb: shouldn't the page be clarified then ?
<vagrantc>
ssvb: no .dts files for h3 boards in your branch?
<ssvb>
yann|work: it's a wiki, feel free to update it
<ssvb>
vagrantc: there are dts files, but only for Orange Pi PC and Orange Pi Plus
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<yann|work>
ssvb: i'll happily do it when I'll have precise information, but I'm still discovering :)
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<yann|work>
ssvb: otoh, it sounds like you have first-hand experience with those branches :)
<bpi-user>
@montjoie: Is there a reason your patch ("crypto: sun4i-ss: add missing statesize") wasn't applied yet? I mean this one https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/16/46