#linux-sunxi on 2018-07-04 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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02:13 <MoeIcenowy> IgorPec: is there anyone who tested my H6 DRAM initialization code on any Allwinner LPDDR3 chips? (Orange Pi One Plus/Lite 2)

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03:14 <wens> MoeIcenowy: what did you say the PCIe window size for H6 was? 64k?

03:15 <MoeIcenowy> wens: yes

03:15 <MoeIcenowy> 0x10000

03:16 <MoeIcenowy> and it is mapped from a virtual memory space

03:16 <wens> should still be useful for wifi or sata?

03:16 <MoeIcenowy> no

03:16 <MoeIcenowy> the problem is more complex

03:16 <wens> oh, the page/bank switching thingy

03:16 <MoeIcenowy> it's not the PCIe memory space is only 64k

03:17 <MoeIcenowy> it's the virtual memory space containing both IO and non-prefetchable memory space is banked

03:18 <MoeIcenowy> theortically it might be still possible to use 64k PCIe prefetchable memory, use an unstable mux similar to the one in pcie-tango.c

03:18 <MoeIcenowy> however dwc code shares too many things

03:18 <MoeIcenowy> makes this nearly impossible on dwc

03:18 <MoeIcenowy> (and even this is implemented, it's not reliable

03:21 <wens> oh, yeah, tango controller is broken like ours :/

03:26 <MoeIcenowy> wens: no, tango controller is not so broken

03:26 <MoeIcenowy> it at least doesn't have a brain-damaged virtual memory space

03:26 <MoeIcenowy> :-(

03:26 <wens> virtual memory space?

03:27 <MoeIcenowy> wens: from the CPU view

03:27 <MoeIcenowy> the PCIe space is only 0x20000

03:27 <MoeIcenowy> the first 0x10000 is for dwc, the second 0x10000 is a window

03:27 <MoeIcenowy> the window is mapped to a page in a virtual memory space

03:27 <MoeIcenowy> (selected by a reg in the first 0x10000

03:28 <MoeIcenowy> and the PCI IO/MEM space is in the virtual memory space

03:28 <MoeIcenowy> (IO space is 0x10000 size

03:28 <MoeIcenowy> (MEM space is bigger

03:28 <wens> so you can only map 0x10000

03:28 <MoeIcenowy> yes

03:28 <wens> which is still ok-ish for wifi and small sata controllers

03:28 <MoeIcenowy> and if you map a page in MEM space you cannot map IO space

03:29 <wens> I guess I need to read up on PCI

03:30 <MoeIcenowy> (The description above is only applied to the broken implementation of DWC PCIe on H6

03:30 <MoeIcenowy> (on a normal implementation, a virtual memory space shouldn't exist, and the IO/MEM space should directly lie in the CPU memory space

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03:37 <wens> hmm, I thought IO space was x86 only stuff

03:37 <wens> i.e. does not work for non-x86

03:41 <wens> looking at my x86 server, seems only x86-centric (intel stuff) and devices that support booting off of have I/O space

03:41 <wens> everything else is MMIO

03:45 <wens> https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg52786.html

03:45 <wens> https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg49845.html

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03:48 <wens> MoeIcenowy: so my guess is that this pcie controller is limited to serving only one device, no IO space support

03:50 <wens> MoeIcenowy: do you have any preliminary work for pcie?

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04:05 <MoeIcenowy> wens: IO space is an emulation of the in/out instruction of x86

04:05 <MoeIcenowy> translate them to a MMIO space

04:06 <MoeIcenowy> wens: I tried to restrict the memory space to 64K

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04:06 <MoeIcenowy> but the RC itself has 64K option ROM

04:06 <MoeIcenowy> and fills the space

04:07 <wens> RC? raid card?

04:07 <wens> disable option rom? :)

04:07 <MoeIcenowy> Root Complex

04:07 <MoeIcenowy> the root node of PCIe

04:08 <MoeIcenowy> like the HCI of USB

04:08 <MoeIcenowy> something to mention: SATA cards have some traditional IO

04:09 <MoeIcenowy> maybe now the only way is to write an EL2 wrapper

04:09 <wens> oh

04:09 <MoeIcenowy> (but I have no AArch64 bare-metal (and even EL2) development experience

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04:09 <MoeIcenowy> and my WLAN cards all claim MEM space > 64K

04:11 <wens> interesting... my iwlwifi only claims 8k

04:11 <wens> MoeIcenowy: we can choose to not support IO space

04:12 <MoeIcenowy> wens: if the capability of a card is not fully satisfied

04:12 <MoeIcenowy> Linux will refuse to probe it

04:12 <wens> well, then it remains unsupported until we figure a solution for the controller issues

04:13 <MoeIcenowy> EL2 wrapper

04:13 <MoeIcenowy> the crazy RaspberryPiPkg has done many crazy things with EL2, but with help from EDK2

04:17 <wens> MoeIcenowy: seems like root complex claiming the whole space is not uncommon? it is a bridge, so it is exposing the window it can provide to devices connected to it

04:17 <wens> which is 64k

04:17 <MoeIcenowy> but it has extra cost

04:17 <wens> I say we might not need the wrapper

04:18 <MoeIcenowy> no

04:18 <MoeIcenowy> we need

04:18 <wens> we might just have a misunderstanding about how pci works

04:18 <MoeIcenowy> you misunderstood.

04:19 <MoeIcenowy> See this sentence 'Region 0: Memory at f2400000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]'

04:19 <MoeIcenowy> (from lspci -vv on my PC

04:19 <MoeIcenowy> (it's an Atheros AR9462

04:19 <MoeIcenowy> the memory section from 0xf2400000, size 512KiB, is allocated to the card

04:20 <MoeIcenowy> and the driver can directly access 0xf2400000 to access the registers on the card

04:20 <wens> yeah, and the bridge on the H6 doesn't support such a large window, so you can't use such a card with it

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04:21 <MoeIcenowy> no it support

04:21 <MoeIcenowy> but it doesn't fully map it to CPU

04:22 <wens> but you said root complex claims 64k?

04:23 <MoeIcenowy> it's not "Memory"

04:23 <MoeIcenowy> it's "Expansion ROM"

04:24 <wens> can we skip the AR9462 case?

04:24 <wens> clearly it's not going to be usable without a lot of work

04:26 <wens> do you have any patches that simply get the pcie controller to probe

04:27 <MoeIcenowy> wens: I have

04:27 <MoeIcenowy> (although probe means nothing

04:27 <MoeIcenowy> oh not only r/w IO space needs muxing

04:27 <wens> can you provide them somewhere? I simply want to see what the root complex looks like

04:27 <MoeIcenowy> reads cards' config space also needs muxing

04:27 <wens> yeah, but you only read card config space at probe time, no?

04:28 <wens> or not

04:28 <wens> anyway, one thing at a time

04:28 <wens> a) get the controller to probe, b) config space, c) mmio space, d) probe a card

04:29 <MoeIcenowy> P.S. probing the controller only reads the DBI space

04:29 <MoeIcenowy> which is not paged

04:29 <MoeIcenowy> (the first 0x10000

04:29 <wens> I know

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04:42 <MoeIcenowy> wens: https://github.com/Icenowy/linux/tree/h6-pcie-wip

04:42 <MoeIcenowy> enjoy a months-aged branch

04:42 <MoeIcenowy> ;-)

04:44 <wens> thanks, I assume the driver is a port of the BSP one?

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04:46 <MoeIcenowy> wens: yeah

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06:12 <wens> it seems we are not the only platform that has such a small ATU window for PCIe

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07:28 <adj_> wens, for example? NXP's i.mx6?

07:30 <MoeIcenowy> wens: the MFD ACK of axp805 patchset comes.

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07:36 <wens> finally

07:37 <wens> adj_: the dwc ecam driver changes lists marvell ARMADA 80x0 as an example

07:37 <wens> but the limitation is really only accessing config space

07:38 <wens> IO and MEM space are mapped directly to the CPU address space. that's what the ranges property in the pcie controller node describe

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07:40 <MoeIcenowy> wens: it's sunxi-specific hack

07:41 <wens> MoeIcenowy: what is?

07:41 <MoeIcenowy> the IO and MEM space not directly mapped

07:41 <KotCzarny> cheap hardware is cheap

07:41 <wens> MoeIcenowy: they _are_ directly mapped

07:42 <KotCzarny> save few lines, fix in software later

07:42 <MoeIcenowy> wens: please try on a real chip

07:42 <wens> MoeIcenowy: https://pastebin.com/Ps90Q9Yp

07:42 <wens> intel 6205 iwlwifi

07:42 <MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: you may mean lanes or wires?

07:42 <KotCzarny> wires

07:42 <KotCzarny> in chip

07:42 <MoeIcenowy> wens: ok

07:43 <MoeIcenowy> try to bring it up!

07:43 <MoeIcenowy> and you will get weird

07:43 <wens> yeah. I need to compile it as a module :(

07:43 <MoeIcenowy> and if you do inspection with devmem2 command

07:43 <MoeIcenowy> you will know what I'm saying

07:43 <MoeIcenowy> the 0x05e00000 and 0x05500000 spaces are not in CPU memory space

07:43 <MoeIcenowy> but in virtual memory space of PCIe

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07:44 <MoeIcenowy> the design is so weird that only people that discover it by themselves can understand it

07:45 <KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: can it be hardwired to split half of the mapping into io and rest for mem banking?

07:45 <MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: no

07:45 <KotCzarny> so you can pretend io would be always mapped

07:45 <wens> ah, I see

07:45 <MoeIcenowy> config space / io space are both a single 64K page

07:46 <MoeIcenowy> wens: if you want to roar, do it ;-)

07:46 <wens> so that's what the sunxi_pcie_bus_cutpage_* functions in the BSP are for

07:46 <MoeIcenowy> yes

07:46 <MoeIcenowy> and please note that "cutpage" is a real Chinglish

07:46 <MoeIcenowy> I hope you can understand it ;-)

07:46 <KotCzarny> :)

07:47 <wens> I actually don't :(

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07:47 <MoeIcenowy> wens: ah "cut" means “切" here, which is short for "切换", "switching"

07:48 <MoeIcenowy> *facepalm*

07:48 <wens> *sigh*

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07:48 <KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: hmm, can you map them overlapping?

07:48 <MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: no

07:48 <KotCzarny> or only single mapping can be active at a time

07:48 <MoeIcenowy> only a single page can be mapped to the window at the same time

07:49 <KotCzarny> sucks

07:49 <MoeIcenowy> but if a wrapper is to be writing

07:49 <KotCzarny> any workaround will kill the performance badly

07:49 <MoeIcenowy> it will be quite simple

07:50 <KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: maybe arisc could be used as a background data copier for mem mapping and just leave io mapped?

07:50 <MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: there

07:50 <MoeIcenowy> 's no room for data copying

07:50 <adj_> MoeIcenowy, so every driver must be patched to use that switching hack?

07:51 <wens> wonder where the cutpage functions get called

07:51 <MoeIcenowy> adj_: this is what BSP does

07:51 <MoeIcenowy> wens: if you have a newer BSP

07:51 <MoeIcenowy> it was called in "bcmdhdpci" driver

07:51 <wens> oh great

07:51 <MoeIcenowy> wens: it's quite simple

07:53 <MoeIcenowy> writel(0x5500, 0x05401020) will map the virtual space <0x55000000 0x10000> (high 16 bit according to 0x05401020) to physical space <0x05410000 0x10000> (a fixed area)

07:54 <MoeIcenowy> P.S. the one who ported UEFI EDK2 to Lumia phones (imbushuo) recently grabbed a Orange Pi One Plus from one of his friend (also mine)

07:54 <MoeIcenowy> maybe he will do an EDK2 port for H6 soon? ;-)

08:05 <wens> this is so idiotic. why would you have AXI masters, only not to use them properly

08:06 <wens> MoeIcenowy: haven't looked, but I'm guessing bcmdhdpci doesn't use standard ioremap stuff?

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08:11 <wens> can we ask them what registers 0x1030 and 0x1034 are for?

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08:35 <MoeIcenowy> wens: they have no response

08:35 <MoeIcenowy> from Chinease New Year to now

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08:59 <wens> :(

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13:15 <micken> Hi

13:16 <micken> What is "offset" in genfb (NetBSD) I guess it is same in linux

13:16 <micken> Uboot puts fb at be000000

13:17 <micken> seems ok

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14:07 <jakllsch> micken: i think it's way to hoist the beginning of the framebuffer away from the beginning of video memory... but i should probably actually check

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14:08 <jakllsch> or maybe it's just the framebuffer address

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14:09 <micken> ok

14:10 <micken> I can write to be000000 from RISC OS

14:10 <micken> I have other problems after that :)

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14:14 <jakllsch> beware virtual/physical translation

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14:18 <micken> jakllsch: I am mapping it (MMU) and can clear the screen , put up a bitmap etc..

14:19 <micken> jakllsch: the problems are later on,,, feels like RO writes outside teh screen

14:19 <micken> :D

14:19 <hlauer> wens: thanks for the info to 4.18 banana mmc pm issues. Is a patch somewhere/what to watch for ?

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15:28 <wens> hlauer: "mmc: sunxi: Disable irq during pm_suspend"

15:28 <wens> on LAKML, discussion ongoing

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