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<oliv3r> so i've been out of touch with reality, but is this step two of Embrace, Extend? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-03/microsoft-is-said-to-have-agreed-to-acquire-coding-site-github?
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<pmpp> future of advertising is social networks, not web pages spamming
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<oliv3r> it does say 'social coding' :p
<oliv3r> from github's pov i understand, I would not be supprised at all if they where loosing money like mad
<JohnDoe_71Rus> If you can't beat it, lead it. :)
<oliv3r> lol so true
<JohnDoe_71Rus> oliv3r: how is the Lima project moving forward?
<oliv3r> why you asking me lol :)
<oliv3r> i'm not really involved but i'm quite intrequed
<oliv3r> i will deffinatly use it one of these days
<JohnDoe_71Rus> ask Luck?
<JohnDoe_71Rus> sorry
<oliv3r> yuq
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> oliv3r: i remember it was Luс libv
<plaes> JohnDoe_71Rus: it was
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<oliv3r> lima was luc/libv lima2 or whatever it is called is yuq
<oliv3r> and that's going along really nicely from the very little things i've seen
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<Ixnus> Hello, page 28 is the block diagram correct or wrong ?
<Ixnus> jernej, wens, mripard ^
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<diego_r> hi guys. Anybody here taking care of meta-sunxi? It looks there are a bunch of overlooked pull requests.
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<buZz> what would be the 'best' kernel to run on H5 now? mostly motivated by lowering thermal runaways during load
<buZz> i guess any non-mainline eh :P
<pmpp> thermal profiles are complex to build
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<pmpp> buZz: what would you run on H5 if not mainline ?
<buZz> well, friendlyarm's kernel, whatever it might be
<KotCzarny> just slap on big ass heatsink and low rpm fan and run
<buZz> no space for a fan, friendlyarm's heatsink already installed (which is same size as almost entire board
<buZz> it does work , i did a 15 hour burn-in test, and nothing melted :P but, would like it to run much cooler
<buZz> i noticed many H3 boards allow much lower clockspeeds then this kernel currently does
<buZz> hanni mentioned something which i dont know about
<buZz> 20:54:11 < hanni76> buZz, opp table is filled only up to 816 ?
<buZz> which to me sounds like there could be configuration for it somewhere
<KotCzarny> yeah, vi
<buZz> friendlyarm's linux tree ; This branch is 472 commits ahead, 45864 commits behind torvalds:master.
<KotCzarny> and .dts
<buZz> ah hmhm
<buZz> sadly armbian -of course- doesnt provide source .deb's for their kernel
<KotCzarny> but they provide full patches source
<buZz> so i'm setting up a whole ubuntu box just to build a kernel now
<KotCzarny> and scripts to build
<buZz> KotCzarny: yeah that sucks
<KotCzarny> go armbian
<KotCzarny> nope, that's open source for you
<buZz> debian has source package, they should just use that :P
<KotCzarny> not 'clicky clicky got it'
<buZz> not have a trail of breadcrumbs to find the kernel source :P
<diego71_> KotCzarny: apt get is more friendly :)
<buZz> not to mention industry standard
<pmpp> +1 only legacy source tree should be packaged
<diego71_> and still you can do dpkg-buildpackage if you want
<buZz> pmpp: armbian doesnt have that
<pmpp> everything not mainlined should stay in patch
<diego71_> (or make-kpkg)
<KotCzarny> armbian isnt debian specific
<buZz> they dont provide a 'full patches source' btw . they delete/add patches all the time
<KotCzarny> they keep their build tree mostly distro agnostic
<buZz> so there's no way of knowing which had been applied at time of build
<KotCzarny> buzz, i dont get you, just clone their src repo, download vanilla kernel, write 2 liner script to apply patches and build kernel
<buZz> pmpp: so debian kernel should not have source? ubuntu kernels?
<buZz> KotCzarny: they -have no source repo-
<KotCzarny> you've spent more time whining than you would do the building
<KotCzarny> buzz: they do
<KotCzarny> :P
<pmpp> buZz: debian provides .orig and patchsets afaik
<buZz> you're talking about github
<buZz> i'm talking about apt repo
<buZz> pmpp: then they should have that in armbian aswell
<buZz> KotCzarny: apt doesnt take github repos
<KotCzarny> see above, 3-4 commands in bash
<KotCzarny> and you will get the kernel done
<JohnDoe_71Rus> buZz: you can add this support :P
<buZz> 'just clone their src repo' includes a) installing virtualbox b) installing ubuntu18
<buZz> while i already -have- a arm machine perfectly capable of building a kernel
<KotCzarny> nope, it only requires linux with git command
<KotCzarny> any linux
<buZz> sure, if you wanna fuck up yr distro with 2983749283798273 linaro packages
<KotCzarny> buzz: i'm building armbian kernels both on x64 and arm7 boxes
<buZz> because they ofcourse dont wanna use the native ones
<KotCzarny> and i dont fuck up my distros because i'm lazy and just use binary package from linaro
<KotCzarny> and on arm i just use whatever gcc i have in distro
<buZz> then you arent using https://github.com/armbian/build
<KotCzarny> yes, i dont use their scripts, but i use their patches for kernel/uboot
<KotCzarny> which is the same thing as a result
<buZz> yet, you just paraded around that these scripts make it userfriendly and best since sliced bread
<KotCzarny> for people that want their whole distro rebuilt, yes
<KotCzarny> for me i use meaty part (patches)
<buZz> w/e
<buZz> its a obvious mess
<pmpp> that's called bazaar programming
<pmpp> maybe you'll get a cathedral after M$ is went over github XD
<KotCzarny> would be fun if m$ buys out armbian
<buZz> lol guess what that current armbian/build script does when building a kernel
<buZz> PACKAGE ITS SOURCE
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<KotCzarny> buzz: so lots of buzz over nothing?
<buZz> nah
<buZz> it means, armbian did see why their old behaviour, that you defended, was causing unneeded effort
<KotCzarny> or they were doing it for a long time and not many people bothered
<buZz> seeing there are no linux kernel packages on their apt.armbian yet, i'd say its a new feature
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> M$ and github agreed
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<fredl> hi guys, after our app guys have installed their app in /java, how do I make an image that I can put in genimage.cfg in buildroot?
<fredl> Actually...
<fredl> hmmm
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<oliv3r> it's now official, so sad :(
<KotCzarny> why sad? what did you lose?
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<KotCzarny> maybe you need to rebuild with autotools
<KotCzarny> oops, wrong chan
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<jernej> Ixnus: which block diagram? There are 3 on that page. Additionaly, which part do you think is wrong?
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<Ixnus> jernej: thanks the first one -> "Figure 3 - 1 . DE System Block Diagram"
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<Ixnus> can you confirm or deny RGB LVDS DSI and CVBS ?
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<jernej> well, H5 pinout don't mention any RGB/LVDS/DSI pins, just CVBS
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<jernej> additionaly, H5 doesn't have and TCON with channel 0
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<jernej> so I would say RGB/LVDS/LCD/DSI is not possible
<jernej> however, strange thing is that H5 has HDMI on TCON0
<jernej> but both documents, DE2 manual and H5 user guide, have this fact wrong
<jernej> so: TCON0 -> HDMI, TCON1 -> CVBS (H5)
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<jernej> Ixnus: ^
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<buZz> aw yeh, H5 running on 120mhz \o :)
<KotCzarny> get your power meter and compare that 120mhz with 600something mhz
<buZz> i doubt it'll be much lower, biggest consumer of device is the backlight in lcd still :P
<KotCzarny> that's what i mean, bit pointless
<KotCzarny> even without lcd
<buZz> i think the voltages in dtb for the other clocks are a bit too high aswell
<buZz> but KotCzarny , the goal was temperature ;)
<KotCzarny> same
<buZz> we'll see
<KotCzarny> temperature is relative to voltage mostly
<KotCzarny> so there is a high chance it wont change much below 400-600
<buZz> current policy: frequency should be within 120 MHz and 408 MHz.
<buZz> there's also a chance i can finish my compile of cool-retro-term with this ;)
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<buZz> does seem to help :) sweet
<buZz> think i cheered too soon ^_^
<oliv3r> for those are (not) wondering, i secured gitlab.com/linux-sunxi and gitlab.com/sunxi
<buZz> cool \o
<oliv3r> but things are rediciously slow atm
<oliv3r> i think they are a bit being overwhelmed
<oliv3r> no tsure if sunxi should migrate, but having a mirror at worst case doesn't sound too horrible
<buZz> might have *sunglasses* derailed their plans
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<buZz> why does opp-microvolt want 3 variables .. target min max
<buZz> when would it move out of target voltage? or why?
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<buZz> meh, ok, seems reliably repeatable
<buZz> no matter how low i clock , once it hits swap, after some seconds, it stops responding on network and stops updating screen output
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<hanni76> jernej, Allwinner H-line is only HDMI-capable, correct ?
<jernej> hanni76: No, H3/H5 have HDMI and CVBS, while H6 additionaly supports also panels
<KotCzarny> jernej, what about h64?
<hanni76> jernej, hmm.. I know no boards that expose CVBS on hardware level
<hanni76> i.e. we can forget about it, correct ?
<KotCzarny> hanni: all h3 boards expose cvbs
<KotCzarny> usually via headphone jack or pins
<jernej> what do you mean by H64? Board Pine H64 or Allwinner H64 SoC (which had limited life span, if any)
<KotCzarny> and i got pretty many requests from russia lands when i disabled cvbs
<hanni76> KotCzarny, ok, didn't know that.. what about Opi PC/PC+, One?
<KotCzarny> hanni: opipc/+ via hp jack
<KotCzarny> jernej: soc
<jernej> I never seen any board with H64 SoC, so I can't tell you more than it's written in datasheet
<hanni76> ok, so H6 is a good one then as soon as it supports panels
<KotCzarny> btw. there is also h8
<hanni76> but Opi One+ doesn't have peripherals for panels
<KotCzarny> here be nobel64 board with h64
<jernej> I must say that H64 datasheet (at least the one I found) has confused info about output capabilities
<jernej> *confusing
<hanni76> lol... tell me a reason to manufacture such a stupid board when SoC supports panels ?
<KotCzarny> because people would buy everything as long it's 'new'
<hanni76> oh right..
<hanni76> lol
<KotCzarny> otoh, it's cheap enough to get for some soc development
<hanni76> for that purpose Opi One is the best... why pay more ?
<KotCzarny> tv boxes with h6 are priced 80-120usd
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<KotCzarny> remix jide rm1g tv box uses h64
<KotCzarny> if allwinner ever produced h64 chips in bigger amounts, i wonder where it went
<hanni76> KotCzarnyб h64 = A64, isn't it ?
<KotCzarny> nope
<KotCzarny> close, but different
<hanni76> basically the same, from programming point of view
<hanni76> "H64 also supports H.264 at 4K resolutions, while A64 is limited to H.264 @1080p, and H64 adds a TS interface"
<KotCzarny> that's what we know from specs
<KotCzarny> who knows if there are any more differences
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<buZz> is r-i2c some special bus? or just one of the normal ones
<montjoie> hello any a83t owner ? with recent kernel ? I have 50% packet loss from all kernel for 4 month at minimum
<anarsoul|3> buZz: iirc r-i2c is "restricted"
<anarsoul|3> so yeah, it's special
<vagrantc> montjoie: you're lucky to only have 50% loss
<buZz> dangit, ok :)
<vagrantc> montjoie: i get more like 85%
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<montjoie> vagrantc: I remember someone on this channel hitting that when I speaked about it, digging in my log...
<montjoie> the problem is that wens didnt hit it on his board
<vagrantc> so we need a covert mission to replace wens's board?
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<pgreco> montjoie. Bpi m3. Using 4.17 rc7 + smp
<pgreco> What test do you need?
<KotCzarny> he left
<pgreco> KotCzarny: sorry. I don’t see the user list from the cell. Thanks
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<KotCzarny> shoot him an email though
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