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<BroderTuck> reference to the LQ thread I just likned came from http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=arm
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<ullbeking> is it possible to hack any h3-based sbc, e.g., opi +2e, so that i can get better than usb 2 speed to a connected external drive? for example, is there any kind of hack to wire directly in to the pci-e bus? (i know that seems like such a long shot it might even sound silly, but you never know...)
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<diego71> h3 does not have pci support so I suppose not
<diego71> may be you can have 2 usb hd in raid...
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<ullbeking> diego71: wdym by "2 usb hd in raid"? as in, 2x usb drives striped in raid 0?
<diego71> yes
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<diego71> but only if the two usb port don't share some internal bus that slow down accesses
<ullbeking> It's a good thought but I don't think it'll be enough
<Ashleee> gotta use soemthing better :)
<Ashleee> you can get rk3399 -based SoCs with PCIe... RockPro64, Orange Pi 4 etc
<Ashleee> and with either SATA or NVMe drives
<ullbeking> Ashleee: I think you're right
<Ashleee> Allwinner H6 has PCIe but last time I checked the driver was still not working as AW goofed up something in the design
<Ashleee> (non-linear addressing IIRC)
<ullbeking> ideally i need two nic's too
<Ashleee> hmm you're stretching it :)
<buZz> you could put a PCIe bridge on the bus
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<buZz> to get more devices onto it, they'll share bandwidth though
<ullbeking> yeah, i'm getting into proper mini-itx board zone here ;-)
<Ashleee> or throw the USB HDDs on USB3 ports
<Ashleee> and PCIe NIC
<Ashleee> or vice versa if you want NVMe :)
<ullbeking> not many allwinner based options huh
<Ashleee> if you want PCIe then not really
<Ashleee> rk3399 has mainline PCIe working fine
<Ashleee> and USB3 and all that stuff
<Ashleee> and packs something better than Cortex A53 :D
<ullbeking> which rk3399 sbc do you like?
<Ashleee> I have only OPi4 ... and was sent two chinese H96 Max TV boxes to hack to run Linux instead of Android
<Ashleee> but I use it just because CPU performance
<ullbeking> is there a list of rk3399 based sbc's?
<Ashleee> I have a large stack of 10x Pine64 (Allwinner A64), 4x Tanix TX6 (Allwinner H6), Orange Pi Zero (AW H2), 2x OPi PC (AW H3), RPi 3b, 2x Odroid C1, OPi 4 and 2x the H96 Max
<Ashleee> sort of :)
<Ashleee> (oh and I have one fully loaded SOpine Clusterboard as well... I keep forgetting about that, that's 7 more AW A64 SoCs)
<ullbeking> Pine64 looks good to me too
<Ashleee> Pine64 doesn't have PCIe nor USB3
<Ashleee> I bought it back when kickstarter happened :) and then a bunch more boards
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<ullbeking> any nano pi?
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<ullbeking> basically, i'm looking for something powerful enough that i can either add an extra NIC for a total of 2 NIC's, or use VLAN's for 2 VNIC's. i also need two interfaces to ssd's that are "fast", i.e., better than usb 2. that is, either usb 3 or a real SATA controller.
<mru> allwinner might not be the right choice for you
<ullbeking> it was a great choice for the things i used it for, but i think i've surpassed it
<ullbeking> do you know any sbc's that have 2 nic's?
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<mru> you probably need to look at TI or NXP for that
<ullbeking> and a real sata interface or usb3?
<ullbeking> also, does there exist an sd card that can be used written and read from heavily like a real ssd?
<mru> I would not use an sd card like that
<mru> they're not built for it
<ullbeking> ikr
<mru> could this be something? https://beagleboard.org/x15
<ullbeking> but i wondered if there was something in that form factor that /could/ be used like that
<Ashleee> nanopi r2s has dual gbit
<Ashleee> one native and one thorugh USB3
<Ashleee> but no native SATA nor PCIe
<Ashleee> and only USB2 available :)
<Ashleee> so I think that rockpro64 is a good start tbh
<Ashleee> there was a chart with tested SATA cards
<ullbeking> mru: that bbx15 looks great!
<ullbeking> Ashleee: i agree i need to look in the rock direction
<ullbeking> 19:04 <Ashleee> there was a chart with tested SATA cards
<ullbeking> do you have a link?
<Ashleee> I want to say it was somewhere on Pine64 wiki but no clue
<Ashleee> any generic -ish PCIe SATA card will work, only problem would be something that requires large address space
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<KotCzarny> ullbeking: buy yourslef hp g1/g2 with i5-4590 and a platinium psu
<ullbeking> KotCzarny: sounds like the easiest and most sensible option
<ullbeking> do you have any particular recommendation?
<KotCzarny> and you can put in pcie-nvme card, which means 3200/2000MB/s transfers
<KotCzarny> hp g1 elitedesk 800 with i5-4590, sff, 80plus platinium psu
<ullbeking> do you mean elitedesk 800?
<ullbeking> gotcha
<KotCzarny> its just perfect for home combine
<ullbeking> going to have dinner with family now, biab
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<ullbeking> KotCzarny: i'm after something a bit smaller and more "sbc-like" because i want to build a ceph cluster of hyperconverged storage. for my "home server" server i've got something else in mind.
<KotCzarny> you still have to put the drives somewhere, which means sbc form factor doesnt matter much
<ullbeking> sure
* ullbeking is checking prices on hp1 g2/g2 elitedesk 800
<KotCzarny> should be ~50-100usd
<smaeul> apritzel: this is awful. I was looking at the h616 bl31 hoping there was a better way to turn off the CPU than yolo'ing the power switch... and I found this instead: https://pastebin.com/raw/Bg5kF0ux
<smaeul> their sunxi_affinst_off is a no-op, and they're relying on Linux polling PSCI_AFFINITY_INFO from another CPU
<smaeul> there's not even a check to see if the PSCI power state for the CPU is "off". any PSCI_AFFINITY_INFO call will kill the CPU
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<smaeul> on the other hand, there is hardware-assisted cpuidle, which appears to do effectively the same thing as turning the CPU off, so I'll see if I can get that to work
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<ullbeking> KotCzarny: haha, actually I just realized some real irony ;-) trying to implement my solution using SBC's is actually really expensive, but using "real" mainboards gives me everything I need and more, and is actually cheaper ;-)
<KotCzarny> glad you see the truth now
<KotCzarny> sbc are special purpose thingies
<KotCzarny> where size and power drain matters
<ullbeking> the G2 mainboard can be found for about 40-50 GBP. i intend to stack them with [what are those brass spacers called that match the
<ullbeking> ...
<mru> standoffs
<ullbeking> holes of one board of the next board?
<ullbeking> standoffs!!!
<mru> just be sure they're not mexican
<ullbeking> why not?
<ullbeking> lol :D
<apritzel> smaeul: omg
<apritzel> smaeul: I thought the U-Boot sunxi v7 PSCI trick is somewhat horrible already: do a (secure) IPI to the *other* core to pull the plug from the calling core
<apritzel> smaeul: but that is really ... wow
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<juri_> ullbeking: they make those spacers in plastic. it's what i use on my piles-of-boards.
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<sunshavi> Wizzup: thanks
<sunshavi> that file needs this modification: https://termbin.com/z9ys
<sunshavi> that is going to improve a lot of things on PP
<sunshavi> on my case with that case a lot of problems are not happenning anymore
<sunshavi> BTW: I do not have the PP. But I have another SOC with the same GPU
<sunshavi> ops. sorry wrong chanell
<sunshavi> now I need to copy everything to the another chanell
<Ashleee> oh btw smaeul remember the clock issue on A64? After several weeks with the config enabled on 17 A64 boards I have had zero time jumps :)
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<apritzel> smaeul: and btw: my crude measurements a while ago suggested that an A53 power gated doesn't save too much compared to WFI/GIC off
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<smaeul> apritzel: yes, that agrees with what I have seen
<ullbeking> juri_: what boards do you have in your piles-of-boards?
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<smaeul> apritzel: I updated TF-A patches, full branch is at https://github.com/smaeul/arm-trusted-firmware/commits/h616, probably still needs some hacking on it
<apritzel> smaeul: thanks, I saw gerrit yelling at me