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[flickernoise/master] README: change VJ to video synthesizer - Xiangfu Liu
<wolfspraul>
cool the screenshots are nice
<wolfspraul>
it seems they are out of sync with the text though, somewhat
<wolfspraul>
RedBull is nice, but I'm wondering whether we have the right to use them like this
<wolfspraul>
I am not sure
<xiangfu>
yes. the text is there, but not in screenshot. I will update a little next time.
<wolfspraul>
we probably better be careful with a brand like RedBull
<wolfspraul>
on the other hand, normally brands would pay to be included somewhere, but then they have it under control and decide whether they want to be included, in which way, etc.
<xiangfu>
yes. I found that after take all those screeshot :(, I will using a apple or peach next time :)
<wolfspraul>
RedBull is cool, I'm just wondering
<wolfspraul>
one of the early NanoNote pictures was with a Coke can, and then we swirled it etc.
<wolfspraul>
which was also strange
<wolfspraul>
we could ask RedBull, but most likely we will never get an answer
<wolfspraul>
like "hey, can you look at this url? Can we use your can in our marketing and advertisement material for our video synthesizer?"
<wolfspraul>
if they say 'yes', for sure we wouldn't ask them for money :-)
<wolfspraul>
they give an email address ebay@at.redbull.com
<wolfspraul>
let's see whether there is a general one
<xiangfu>
what you mean? sorry
<wolfspraul>
ok, I cannot even find any contact information or better email on their site :-)
<wolfspraul>
xiangfu: what I mean is that we can send a short email to ebay@at.redbull.com
<wolfspraul>
and ask for permission to use their trademark
<wolfspraul>
but from googling, my feeling is they will not give any permission :-)
<wolfspraul>
if anything, they will respond to take down that stuff from our wiki asap...
<wolfspraul>
he he
<xiangfu>
I sent one to customers@redbullchina.com.
<wolfspraul>
great
<wolfspraul>
but I'm pretty sure there will be no answer, or if there is an answer it will be negative
<xiangfu>
:)
<wolfspraul>
the company is basically nothing but brand
<wolfspraul>
so they will vigorously defend this, down to the last tiny bit
<wolfspraul>
I suggest we remove those screenshots and use something else, still cool stuff but not something trademarked
<wolfspraul>
then we can ask redbull to pay money to bring their brand on our product... :-)
<xiangfu>
yes. I will do that next time. next step upload screenshot with Sound-In.
<wolfspraul>
this brand stuff is difficult
<wolfspraul>
but we should definitely try to email companies
<wolfspraul>
there is always a chance whoever gets the email is not just a bored lawyer, but sees our product, likes it, and sees some marketing/brand opportunities
<wolfspraul>
it's always worth to write a 3 minute email for cases like this, even if there is never any answer
<lekernel>
phew. you are an optimistic.
<wolfspraul>
meanwhile unless we have a positive permission/policy/answer, we should not use anything that we know is trademarked by someone else
<wolfspraul>
yes, totally optimistic
<wolfspraul>
"so they cannot complain later they weren't asked" :-)
<wolfspraul>
remember, we are the new kid on the block, we have to talk first
<lekernel>
from my point of view there's simply nothing to get out of redbull (except sickness from their bad drinks)
<wolfspraul>
well, I am responding to Xiangfu's screenshots
<wolfspraul>
I don't want to deal with the problem after those screenshots have spread to 20 different places
<wolfspraul>
so now that we have the screenshots, we may as well shoot them a short mail
<wolfspraul>
without any expectations
<wolfspraul>
and in parallel replace the screenshots to ones without trademarked stuff
<xiangfu>
lekernel:Â Â add [previous] to simple mode :) since we have next, I always wnat previous. http://dpaste.com/566300/
<lekernel>
F9 is already used for upgrade, no?
<xiangfu>
long pressed for web upgrade
<lekernel>
mh, yes
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[flickernoise/master] add [previous] to simple mode, short press F11/LeftButton - Xiangfu Liu
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[flickernoise/master] IR remote: add Auto build - Xiangfu Liu
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[milkymist/master] Enable ISE 13.2 BRAM silicon bug workaround (Xilinx AR 39999) - Sebastien Bourdeauducq
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[milkymist/master] Out of order memory controller model - Sebastien Bourdeauducq
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[milkymist/master] Model parameters - Sebastien Bourdeauducq
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[milkymist/master] fmlmeter: record write bit - Sebastien Bourdeauducq
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