<wolfspraul>
to compare the effects, it's nice to have the same object always
<kristianpaul>
xiangfu: nice, fruits are excelent, my breadfast cant miss juice of guayaba for sure
<kristianpaul>
black is better, indeed
<wolfspraul>
peach is good because even if we add or modify patches later, we can take screenshots of the new patches, and they will extend the series without us having to retake all the older screenshots
<wolfspraul>
even people in other places can make new screenshots that fit the series and are nice to understand the different effects
<kristianpaul>
btw i noticed more the 16bits on this pic, not that i want to said, hide it !
<wolfspraul>
what do you mean? (don't understand what you said)
<wolfspraul>
ah, you mean the color gradients show that we only support 64k colors?
<kristianpaul>
you can see the color per pixel limit. looking a peach "curves"
<wolfspraul>
hm
<wolfspraul>
there's your marketing question
<wolfspraul>
so bad I don't have a marketing pro in my team anymore
<wolfspraul>
what is better? hide or not hide?
<wolfspraul>
'turn lemons into lemonade'
<kristianpaul>
(marketing) no problem!!. people paid already for 8 bits sound and video out
<kristianpaul>
well, i know some guys do VJing with nintendos and etc..
<wolfspraul>
oh sure
<wolfspraul>
but we have a specific question now, you brought it up
<wolfspraul>
should we look for another object with solid colors, to 'hide' the 16bpp limitation?
<wolfspraul>
or should we not care and take the peach?
<wolfspraul>
either or
<kristianpaul>
so 16bits, is not bad, people like not to see same hihg quality pics over a over
<kristianpaul>
no i think is okay
<wolfspraul>
it's a marketing question
<kristianpaul>
just saying, also not look bad
<kristianpaul>
heehe
<wolfspraul>
nah, it's a very good question
<wolfspraul>
but I don't have a pro answer :-)
<kristianpaul>
not a marketing guy for sure
<wolfspraul>
we can all just guess
<wolfspraul>
I think it's fine, leave the peach
<wolfspraul>
but black background
<kristianpaul>
i mean not look bad, just interesting, yeah peach stay !
<wolfspraul>
like I said, I like the peach because it is a universally available object, and we can later take more screenshots of new patches without having to retake the series
<wolfspraul>
and comparing the effects quickly on a wiki page with all patches listed there is quite good, I think
<kristianpaul>
interesting because you noticed is not that full coloreded stuff you're used too se, i repeat
<kristianpaul>
sure sure
<kristianpaul>
s/se/see
<wolfspraul>
oh you are totally right
<wolfspraul>
people will ask the resolution & color question
<xiangfu>
black backgroup is not very good. I guess. make most of video performance black.
<kristianpaul>
wolfspraul: personally i see "too much posible" really everywhere !
<wolfspraul>
sure but those are features that we do _not_ have now
<kristianpaul>
i personaly dont like to said posible, i prefer said not avaliable at the moment :-)
<wolfspraul>
so the answer can only be something like a) later b) never
<wolfspraul>
ok, understood
<wolfspraul>
can you edit it? (wiki)
<wolfspraul>
I'm curious how you word it
<kristianpaul>
what you want i edit exactly?
<wolfspraul>
remember those are feature _challenges_, i.e. someone asking/challenging us on a missing feature
<wolfspraul>
the answers
<kristianpaul>
you mena alternative answerings?
<kristianpaul>
ok
<wolfspraul>
nah, just overwrite
<kristianpaul>
haha
<kristianpaul>
you said, i follow :)
<wolfspraul>
xiangfu: so which background then?
<wolfspraul>
all white?
<wolfspraul>
I didn't like the checkered background papers/wraps in your first picture
<kristianpaul>
xiangfu: you need the peach to dance in the black background ;)
<wolfspraul>
also it's hard later to take new screenshots
<wolfspraul>
another thing - how about the name in the screenshot?
<wolfspraul>
the filename
<wolfspraul>
I don't like it
<wolfspraul>
first I don't like that path /ssd/..., and then I feel it clutters the image, and we can always add this later, but removing is hard
<kristianpaul>
wolfspraul: btw before you ask first, i still migrating namuru, i had to start over again some porting, but i found  a simpler way of sync less than 20 lines of code, wich is good i think :)
<wolfspraul>
also I think in simple mode, it should not be displayed by default. If someone wants to see this they can press a key, or a button on the remote control
<wolfspraul>
kristianpaul: yes sure, I read the backlog
<wolfspraul>
it sounds very interesting, as always
<wolfspraul>
very exciting stuff for me
<kristianpaul>
"I want a control screen separate from the rendering screen." man, this is killing fature, from my honest opinion !!!
<kristianpaul>
feature*
<kristianpaul>
well, there is OSC, but that need you to add wifi, phone.. apps.
<kristianpaul>
nah, browsers is more excuses..
<wolfspraul>
I think the easiest way to implement that is with a browser interface
<wolfspraul>
why is it an excuse?
<kristianpaul>
hum.. may be an acessory
<wolfspraul>
even that would be a lot of work and I don't think is high on anybodys priority list right now
<kristianpaul>
excuse, becasuse the missing thing is a hardware interface
<kristianpaul>
something physicall, well i see it like that
<wolfspraul>
browser would imply a second computer, yes
<kristianpaul>
plus, the amount of work to make patch reconfiguration on the fly, dunno how feasible is, even considering that we add a second screen..
<wolfspraul>
you said it's a killer feature
<wolfspraul>
for the most part I think people will prepare what they need. maybe we can make it more flexible what the m1 boots into.
<wolfspraul>
so you can boot into a specific patch that you specify (maybe this exists already?)
<wolfspraul>
and then the remote control. I think we will soon add some real use of the remote control.
<wolfspraul>
out of the box
<kristianpaul>
(remote control) yeah, intresting too
<wolfspraul>
at that point the gui will become something you need only for preparing a performance
<wolfspraul>
as the last step before the performance you set the m1 to boot into some specific patch X, and then you unplug the box and take it with you and you are in action mode
<wolfspraul>
and from then on the only thing you need is the remote control
<kristianpaul>
i forgot the nanonote as other interface, bu i wonder if you still interested on that path too?
<kristianpaul>
may be some MIDI to UBB cable or soemthing..
<wolfspraul>
sure I am
<wolfspraul>
but first of all I'm extremely practical
<wolfspraul>
I want to play
<wolfspraul>
now
<kristianpaul>
sure
<wolfspraul>
the NanoNote sw makes progress, little by little
<wolfspraul>
and we try to continue, and we try to make a Ya
<kristianpaul>
you dint included MIDI acessories on this batch because...
<wolfspraul>
kristianpaul: maybe that's another supplier
<wolfspraul>
people forget how big China is. 1.3 billion people. I can search hundreds of manufacturers for any product you can imagine, and there are still hundreds more that I never ran into.
<wolfspraul>
but that piano/keyboard is not right for us. I think it's a whole embedded computer, with speaker etc.
<wolfspraul>
almost 1kg heavy
<wolfspraul>
not right for us
<kristianpaul>
i'll keep in mind weight from now
<roh>
wolfspraul: are there already some of the cams in europe at someones?
<roh>
i'd like to have one to play around with
<wolfspraul>
roh: yes, definitely. In fact I think Sebastien has 2.
<roh>
ah. thats good :)
<roh>
bbl
<roh>
re
<xiangfu`>
how to delete a file in milkymist.org/wiki ?