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<golya> Hi! Can anybody tell me a bit about the different syntaxes (ocaml and revised) and how to use them?
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<golya> anybody her?
<pnou> yep
<pnou> to use the revised syntax launch the caml compiler with the « -pp camlp4r » flag
<golya> Thanks. What about another syntax, eg sml?
<pnou> -pp camlp4 pa_sml.cmo
<pnou> -pp 'camlp4 pa_sml.cmo'
<pnou> imo the revised syntax is much cleaner but unfortunaly it's not used
<pnou> since you can't convert your program to another syntax without loosing the commentaries, it's problematic
<golya> Ok, but I used to the SML syntax, and prefer using SML-like syntax in future projects
<golya> However I like unbracketed syntaxes, but maybe the revised syntax results in a safer program...
<pnou> it avoids some problem (for example nesting pattern matching) by bracketting everything
<golya> Yes, I run into a trouble like this, when I have two statements inside an if...
<pnou> what's the sml syntax for if expression?
<golya> It is the same. Well, I think there is 2 story of mine.
<golya> 1. I made a mistake with the if: two statements inside (I don't know how to handle this. Parens?)
<golya> 2. I prefer SML syntax (I learnt SML)
<pnou> you can use begin and end or ( and )
<golya> Ok, I will.
<pnou> the second one is a good reason :)
<golya> When you have side effect, you have more statements, and you must group them inside an if :( That was the problem. BTW I don't like typing ()-s, when I don't have to...
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<MegaWatS> hi ^^
<MegaWatS> hmm
<xtrm> ( )
<MegaWatS> how do I set an initial size for my elements in lablgtk without at the same time making it the minimal size?
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<MegaWatS> does anybody know ? :[
<mrvn_> mldonkey sets it somehow.
<MegaWatS> hmm
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<olczyk> Hi.
<olczyk> I'm confused about what I need to download to start with CAML.
<MegaWatS> hmm
<MegaWatS> what os ?
<MegaWatS> actually its quite easy
<olczyk> Both Windows and Linux. Max portability between the two.
<MegaWatS> there are precompiled binaries for both os'ses
<MegaWatS> what's difficult about it?
<MegaWatS> http://caml.inria.fr/distrib/ocaml-3.06/ocaml-3.06-1.i386.rh73.rpm <-- there's the distribution in .rpm format for linux
<olczyk> Ok. But then further... I downloaded the cdk and it seems to duplicate much of the stuff in the
<olczyk> distro.
<MegaWatS> cdk?
<olczyk> And does not seem available for Windows.
<olczyk> Caml Development Kit.
<MegaWatS> hmm
<MegaWatS> I don't know about that, it's the first I hear of it :)
<MegaWatS> usually you just need the compiler, the editor of your choice, and you can start coding^^
<karryall> olczyk: forget about cdk, it's not very actively maintained
<olczyk> IS there anything else I need.
<MegaWatS> no
<MegaWatS> except libraries, depending on your needs, of course
<olczyk> I'm thinking about a setup close to something like C++Builder or Delphi.
<MegaWatS> well there is an IDE in development I hear but I'm not sure about it's status
<olczyk> That's what I mean. What libraries would be usefull.
<MegaWatS> what do you want to do?
<MegaWatS> for GUI apps , lablgtk would be useful I guess
<olczyk> First Camlp4.
<olczyk> Ok. lablgtk runs on both Windows and Linux?
<MegaWatS> yes
<olczyk> Do I need to download any gtk stuff ( for Windows )?
<MegaWatS> it's all on the lablgtk site
<MegaWatS> as far as I know
<MegaWatS> that is, yes you do, but you can get it all from one place, at the lablgtk homepage
<MegaWatS> but sry I have to go now :)
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<olczyk> What about "visual" front ends for the debugger?
<karryall> there's one in the IDE in development (it's called cameleon)
<olczyk> NEtwork tools. FFI stuff. Profiler. I can't think of any important libraries, but probably will
<olczyk> in twenty minutes.
<olczyk> If you made a CD for WIndows and Linux users, what would you put on it?
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<Dybbuk> A linux installer. :)
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<two-face> hi
<afk^wats> hi
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<two-face> hi MegaWatS
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<two-face> hi Miwong
<Miwong> hello
<two-face> Miwong: your realname is weird :)
<Miwong> well, that's what my parents named me :)
<two-face> no, i meant Purist, non-conformist, jaded subhuman terrorist
<two-face> i don't know your realname from real life
<Miwong> joking
<two-face> ok course
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