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<kral> hi
<ppsmimou> hi
<kett1> hello
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<kral> are there any library for read/write yaml files in ocaml?
<kett1> what is yaml? :)
<kral> kett1: http://www.yaml.org/
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<kral> it's a human-readable data serialization format
<kral> afaict :)
<kral> something like xml, but more human-oriented
<kett1> google "yaml" "ocaml" -> http://whytheluckystiff.net/syck/
<kral> kett1: yes, it was the first site that i saw
<kral> but the ocaml bindings aren't developed yet
<kett1> :(
<kral> i'm a totally newbie in ocaml
<kett1> hmm...
<kett1> you need help with anything? (besides yaml bindings ^^)
<kral> is it difficult to write bindings?
<kett1> depends...
<ppsmimou> it require much care
<ppsmimou> you easily mess up with the GC
<kral> i see
<ppsmimou> OTOH caml's manual gives all the rules to follow in order to make decent bindings
<kral> maybe, it's more easy to make a yaml library in pure ocaml
<kett1> maybe :)
<kral> (for me, of course)
<ppsmimou> it would certainly be a better choice
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<kral> i was hoping i could find a ready-made library, so i ask :)
<kral> ah, please forgive my terrible english
<ketty> it is not so terrible ^^
<kral> :)
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<kral> unfortunately, there aren't many communities about ocaml or functional programming here in italy
<ketty> i don't know of any in sweden either...
<Schmurtz> so, create them ;)
<ketty> nah..
<ketty> to much hassle :)
<kral> Schmurtz: i've got no time and no competence :D
<ketty> if you're on the internet long enough you'll forget what country you happen to live in anyway =)
<Schmurtz> :)
<kral> right
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<kral> but, you know, i'm not so english pratical to think in english
<kral> so i have to translate from english to italian mentally every time
<ketty> hmm... "think".. what is that again? ;)
<ketty> i think me has alot of language agnostic thoughts :)
<ketty> it is such a bother finding the right words :)
<kral> you've got the point
<kral> it's like to have some kind of filter in my head
<ketty> mmm...
<kral> it's frustrating :)
<ketty> sometimes when i try to learn a language..
<ketty> i think using it..
<ketty> and then my thoughs are really restricted...
<ketty> i can only think of very very basic things :)
<kral> i see
<kral> me too :)
<kral> ketty: are you regular here?
<ketty> yes i am..
<ketty> ^^
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<dylan> I seem to lose language ability if I spend too much time programming...
<ketty> :)
<dylan> Only english, though. Spanish doesn't go away like that. O.o
<ketty> i think there is alot of similarities between computer-languages and human-languages...
<ketty> maybe if you use a language a lot your mind adjust to it, and it becomes harder to speak other languages...
<ketty> (temporarily that is..)
<dylan> example: "Where are my keys?" "On the, uh, thing. in the kitchen. Um... the thing you put food on... it's flat, near the sink..." "You mean the counter?" "Yes, that thing!"
<ketty> :)
<dylan> or: "hey, where is my mochilla?" "Your what?" "My moch-- err, it's... I don't remember! Um. Bag. No.." "Backpack?" "Yeah, that."
<dylan> (mochilla is spanish for backpack)
<ketty> spanish is your mother tounge?
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<dylan> English is.
<ketty> hmm.. okey... :)
<dylan> and from watching anime with spanish subtitles, what little japanese I know I translate japanese -> spanish -> english
<ketty> heh.. :)
<ketty> for me it is: japanese -> english -> swedish..
<dylan> Same thing, I bet.
<ketty> yes.. ^^
<dylan> though, at least both English and Swedish are not romance languages. :)
<kral> how i envy you!
<kral> grr...
<dylan> kral: hmm?
<kral> i would like to learn japanese too :)
* dylan snickers.
<dylan> What I am about to say is rather ironic for this channel --
<kral> or chinese (mandarin)
<dylan> Japanese: lingua franca of geeks. ;)
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<ketty> chinese is cool too.. ^^
<ketty> i think it would be great to program in
<dylan> Vietnamese is pretty.
<dylan> ketty: APL! No! *hides*
<ketty> you can have a lot of one character variables using chinese :)
<ketty> and in the case of chinese characters they would accually make some sense...
<ketty> and not be just random stuff...
<dylan> [picture of a house] = "/home/dylan"?
<ketty> yes :)
<dylan> You could have some pretty insane programs...
<ketty> thou the character for house / home looks very much like the character for pig :)
<ketty> which i think resembles the character for elephant some... :)
<ketty> i think the logic is not something that is built into the characters..
<ketty> it is something you'll have to learn by your self :)
<dylan> let [picture of pig] = function [picture of man] -> "George Bush" | [picture of cart] -> "Police vehicle" ...
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<Schmurtz> lol
<Schmurtz> you just have to learn chinese now ;)
<ketty> :)
<kral> so, if i have to write a yaml parser in ocaml, do i have to use ocamllex (or ocamlyacc)?
<dylan> Both, I'd think
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<dylan> and funny, I was going to write a yaml parser at some point.
<kral> and what happens?
<dylan> have you ever used lex and yacc?
<dylan> or flex and bison?
<kral> no :)
<dylan> well, you'll need to learn about lexing and parsing then
<kral> i see
<kral> well, i were never been afraid to learn something :)
<kral> bye, i'm going home now
<kral> thanks for your help
<ketty> baibai ^^
<kral> :)
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