00:02 <Smerdyakov> (Lightweight records)

00:03 <jer> Smerdyakov, sorry, had to put the young one to bed

00:03 <jer> you familiar with SML ?

00:03 <Smerdyakov> Yes.

00:06 <jer> they're records whose types havn't been declared before use... i.e., let foo = { x = 0; y = 0.5; z = "hey" };; (granted that wouldn't be their syntax of course)

00:06 <Smerdyakov> And what kind of "resource" are you looking for?

00:07 <jer> a link to an implementation... Nicolas Oury had posted one (its on the hump) but the link is dead; i was curious if anyone had it kicking around, but i'll guess not

00:08 <Smerdyakov> Why isn't any SML implementation good enough?

00:08 <Smerdyakov> (Meaning an implementation of a compiler/interpreter for SML)

00:08 <jer> because i want to use ocaml not sml

00:10 <Smerdyakov> I don't even understand what you mean by "implementation." Implementation of what?

00:10 <jer> *sigh* nevermind, i found what i was looking for by using archive.org

00:10 <Smerdyakov> I'd still like to know. :)

00:40 <asbeta> http://alan.petitepomme.net/cwn/2002.11.12.html#9

15:54 <Bendi> hi

15:55 <ppsmimou> hi

16:38 <Bendi> I would like to rewrite a flex lexer in ocamllex but I have some issues with it. 1) How can I create state transition with token emitting (something like this: "yybegin(STATE1); return TOKEN1;" )? 2) How can manipulate state stack (something like this: "yy_pop_state(); yy_push_state(STATE2); return TOKEN2;") from ocamllex?

17:16 <mnemonic> yo

17:53 <jacobolus> Hi. I have an c program linked to an ocaml program, and everything compiles okay, but I'm getting a "bus error" when I try to run the compiled executable. Does anyone know what this error is, or have any advice on how I can track it down?

17:56 <asbeta> use gcc -g & gdb

17:56 <Smerdyakov> Sounds like the generic "your C program has a bug" message. (Cousin to "segmentation fault" on certain systems)

17:57 <jacobolus> okay

18:02 <pango> probably misaligned memory access... the wikipedia is your friend ;)

18:05 <Smerdyakov> As far as I'm concerned, it's just another member of the set of errors you can get when you write a C program that has undefined behavior according to the standard.

18:12 <dylan_> mmm, nasal demons.

18:57 <aref> Are there any good books on Ocaml available?

19:21 <ulfdoz> aref: Yes, the publically available one from O'Reilly. You find it on the website.

19:22 <aref> ulfdoz: Thanks, I'll have me a look-see

19:23 <asbeta> aref, also, http://www.ocaml-tutorial.org/ is nice if you have c/c#/java experience. it also contains many useful links.

19:24 <aref> Grand. Yeah, I am coming from C, finally ditching it where it usually belongs, in the ditch :)

19:25 <ulfdoz> I also dislike C.

19:25 <asbeta> C must be mastered in order to write useful programs

19:26 <aref> Not claiming to be a master, but the fun has gone out of C for me.

19:28 <aref> And, I need to have fun programming :)

19:35 <asbeta> C may be fun if you know nothing about FP :)

19:37 <aref> Exactly, exactly. Once upon a time I held C very high. But then I found that there are a lot more enjoyable ways to program

19:43 <asbeta> hmm.. it's interesting whether ocaml gc could be tuned so that weak-pointers cache would be really efficient. say, consumed XXX mb...

21:32 <Tekhne> what's the best ocaml newsgroup?

21:50 <pango> are there that many to chose from ? http://caml.inria.fr/resources/forums.en.html

22:00 <Tekhne> ok, for english speakers then, it looks like comp.lang.ml primarily and comp.lang.functional for general functional stuff. thanks.