flux changed the topic of #ocaml to: Yes, inria.fr is back up! | Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://caml.inria.fr/ | 3.11.0beta1 available from http://caml.inria.fr/pub/distrib/ocaml-3.11/ | Or grab OCaml 3.10.2 from http://caml.inria.fr/ocaml/release.html
<palomer> its interesting how non local returns is such a small issue in ocaml
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<palomer> fun is funner
<vixey> what non local returns?
<vixey> raising exceptions or something else?
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<alexyk> Mac's sed broke several godi packages, so I wonder if we can stick a sed into godi and be done with it
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<palomer> vixey, the "return" keyword in C++
<vixey> uh... ?
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<alexyk> vixey: so what's yucky about F#, just being on Windows? :)
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<tadej> Hi, I'm having difficulties applying CamIDE to eclipse, could anyone help me
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<Camarade_Tux> does ocaml work with tcl/tk 8.5 ?
<Camarade_Tux> (ocaml 3.10)
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<hcarty> Camarade_Tux: One of the Changelog notes for 3.11 is tcl/tk 8.5 compatibility, so I would guess no
<hcarty> Compiling 3.10.2's labltk and related tools didn't work for me against 8.5 a while ago
<Camarade_Tux> hcarty, ok, thanks a lot
<flux> well, the blog entry was sure right on one count: not all programmers know the difference between fun and function..
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* rwmjones_ registered http://丄.com/ ...
<rwmjones_> maybe I'll move my functional programming site to there :-)
<thelema> rwmjones_: really? how do I type that?
<rwmjones_> thelema, with difficulty :-)
<thelema> :)
* thelema uses copy and paste, and bookmarks the site, pre-emptively
<thelema> ah, that's how. xn--8gq.com
<rwmjones_> it took ~ 2 weeks to get approved ... seems they check you're legitimate
<rwmjones_> http://☆☆☆.annexia.org/
<thelema> how do you prove legitacy for 丄.com
<rwmjones_> I don't think the checking process is very rigorous. I simply said that I was going to use the domain for japanese language site.
<Camarade_Tux> I think you only have to prove you are a real person or entity
<thelema> feh.
<rwmjones_> I don't think it's even a japanese character .. I think it's chinese
<Camarade_Tux> 'antitruc'.com is nice
<thelema> I don't recognize it as japanese.
<rwmjones_> I also got http://丿乀.com/ which violates the spirit of IDN / RFCs on many levels ...
<rwmjones_> Camarade_Tux, what is antitruc?
<Camarade_Tux> rwmjones, the name for the first sign if it's not japanese (or is just 'truc' ?)
<Camarade_Tux> 'truc' is basically equivalent to 'foo'
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<bluestorm> mfp: in case you're still interested, i've fixed something in pa_where today
<mfp> bluestorm: it's now in batteries, right?
<bluestorm> yes
<bluestorm> the batteries version is up-to-date, not yet my website version
<Camarade_Tux> hmm, the first result returned by google for "antitruc groupe" is gay-attitude =/
<rwmjones_> heh
* rwmjones_ found the same thing
<thelema> batteries now available as git (although only web and git+ssh://) from ocamlcore.org
<Camarade_Tux> so ocamlcore.org finally got git =)
<bluestorm> mfp: btw, i'm still not so sure including it in batteries is not a bit premature, but who wouldn't love a bit of hairy camlp4 bugfixing with angry users ?
<Camarade_Tux> rwmjones_, it seems it's completely french ;)
<bluestorm> (does the english language have a limit for nested negations ?)
<rwmjones_> it's only when you go back to using C/C++ in earnest that you realise how ON CRACK the whole thing is
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<gildor> thelema: you found the git repo i have create sometime ago for batteries ?
<thelema> yes
<thelema> but I don't have any public push URL
<thelema> and the chroot isn't working, so I have to access it through /var/lib/gforge/chroot/...
<gildor> what do you mean by the "chroot isn't working" ?
<gildor> thelema: you can connect outside the chroot ?
<thelema> yes
<gildor> how ?
<thelema> thelema@thelema-laptop:~/Documents/batteries/examples$ ssh git.ocamlcore.org
<thelema> -bash-3.1$ pwd
<thelema> /var/lib/gforge/chroot/home/users/thelema
<thelema> I can make git work by referring directly to /var/lib/gforge/chroot/gitroot/batteries/batteries.git
<gildor> thats strange
<gildor> but you are really inside the chroot
<thelema> if I were, how could I see the /var/lib/gforge bit?
<thelema> n/m, I am in the chroot.
<thelema> that's odd.
<thelema> if I cd /, there is a gitroot folder
<gildor> what do you have into /var/lib/gforge
<thelema> just chroot -> ../../../
<gildor> ls /var/lib/gforge
<gildor> bind chroot db download dumps etc ftp scmsnapshots scmtarballs tmp
<gildor> you are just seeing a fake
<thelema> yup.
<gildor> (the ls was done in the real host, not the chroot)
* thelema changes his push URL
<thelema> okay, now about a public clone URL...
<gildor> what do you need
<thelema> http://repo.or.cz/w/ocaml.git <- there's URLs for mirror and push.
<thelema> http://git.ocamlcore.org/?p=batteries/batteries.git;a=summary <- no URLs
<thelema> whenever I try git clone git://git.ocamlcore.org/batteries.git
<thelema> it waits for a *long* time and then times out.
<gildor> how can you fix it (i know not a lot of thing about git)
<gildor> "git clone git://" use ssh ?
<thelema> it uses the git daemon
<gildor> there won't be a git daemon
<gildor> you have to use ssh
<thelema> ok. then http access?
<gildor> just tell me what you need/how it can be fixed, you'll have it in the minute
<thelema> can I have http://git.ocamlcore.org/batteries.git access /gitroot/batteries/batteries.git ?
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<thelema> maybe http://git.ocamlcore.org/r -> /gitroot ?
<thelema> and I wouldn't mind getting rid of the extra bit of indirection. i.e. /gitroot/batteries/batteries.git could get shortened to /gitroot/batteries.git
<gildor> because, it allow member of batteries to create another git repo
<thelema> ok. Does that solve the problem for other repos in the future?
<gildor> yes, it will allow to create as many repo as each group want
<gildor> I need to figure out what is the problem with the configuration
<thelema> I guess it's possible we may want another repo, but I think if we did, that other repo would really be for another project.
<thelema> but okay, I can accept that reason to have the batteries dir.
<gildor> yes, but i have copied it from the same repository layout as hg and darcs
<gildor> where branches need to have this layout (for darcs at least)
<thelema> no problem. as long as there's a reason for it.
<gildor> thelema: ok, i think i've got
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* thelema tries cloning
<gildor> http://git.ocamlcore.org/ redirect to gitweb
<gildor> is it ok ?
<thelema> not yet, I'm going to git-update-server-info, as suggested by git-clone
<thelema> what you've done is ok, the repo just isn't ready yet
<thelema> yup, works now.
<gildor> ok, you have access through ssh for push/pull and http for anonymous pull
<thelema> that's all that's needed. Thanks much.
<gildor> no pb
<gildor> bug against Site admin project if needed
* thelema needs to bookmark that.
* gildor is away for one hour
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<Axle> anyone here familiar with the ocamlgraph library?
<thelema> Axioplase_: sorry, I use gnuplot for graphing
<thelema> grr... I meant AxleL
<thelema> *Axle:
<Axle> hmm
<Axle> I was trying to figure out an easy way of reading in a dot file
<Axle> using Pack.Digraph.parse_dot_file works, but the pack graphs are all integer labeled
<slash_> does anybody know a good overview about all the ocaml-filetypes (cmxa, cmi...) and how to use them?
<thelema> oops, graph as in vertices and edges, not graphics.
<thelema> I've used it a bit before, but not in relation to dot files.
<slash_> ahhh thank you
<Axle> chapter 11
<Axle> though the first link is more clear
<slash_> *draft. do not redistribute* :P
<Axle> http://mojave.caltech.edu/jyh/publications.html go down to the books section. I think it'll be alright.
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* palomer wishes there was a datalog binding for ocaml
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<thelema> palomer: datalog? I remember learning prolog back when, but does anyone use datalog anymore?
<palomer> good question
<palomer> I wish they did
<palomer> thelema, did you see my memory leak question on lablgtk?
<palomer> thelema, could you respond to the email by saying that you could reproduce the memory leak?
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<thelema> palomer: I did see your post about the memory leak - I haven't seen any response.
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