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<Kakadu>
flux: hey
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<Kakadu>
I've done nothing for QML+OCaml last weekend. Maybe you have some good news?
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<flux>
I have enjoyed our company pre-christmas on friday, the weekend was non-eventful
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<Kakadu>
Oh. Your western holiday are so unpredictable....
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<adrien_oww>
flux: slacker!
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<fasta>
The TypeRex manual says that I need to add Options.ocamlc := S [ A "ocp-ocamlc"] to an ocamlbuild file. I did that, but it is wrong and ocamlbuild doesn't describe the := feature anywhere.
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<Kakadu>
fasta: AFAIR trustworthy approach is to fix ocamlfind.conf
<fasta>
I don't quite understand why they release documentation that is wrong.
<fasta>
They are creating a tool. How do they not understand that the sole reason for their tool to exist is to make things easier?
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<Kakadu>
c'est la vie
<Kakadu>
fasta: `If you want to make a thing well do it by yourself` (c)
<fasta>
Kakadu: that has been my experience, yes.
<Kakadu>
To be honest I dont understand why approach with correcting myocamlbuild.ml is good. This file will be overwritten after every call `oasis setup`, isn't it?
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<fasta>
Also, all of their manual instructions.
<fasta>
Why can't they create a simple hello world project generator?
<Kakadu>
I dont think it is needed
<Kakadu>
ocp-things are environment element, not a code one
<fasta>
It's perhaps 10 minutes of work for whoever wrote it.
<Kakadu>
wrote what?
<fasta>
They don't document their code and they don't provide a generator.
<fasta>
Very useful... not.
<fasta>
Also, they release a tool, but then leave it full of bugs.
<Kakadu>
I've started not to undestand you
<fasta>
Kakadu: wrote typerex.
<Kakadu>
fasta: I don't blame them. They do something instead of me
<fasta>
Kakadu: I'd have preferred if they had released nothing at all instead of buggy code.
<fasta>
Kakadu: I am fine with people publishing things that work and are documented.
<fasta>
The rest is just spam.
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<thomasga>
fasta: what is wrong ?
<fasta>
thomasga: The manual uses the line: Options.ocamlc := S [ A "ocp-ocamlc"]
<fasta>
thomasga: but ocamlbuild doesn't like it.
<fasta>
thomasga: a solution would be a complete example which installs typerex in a clean emacs environment including all features with a hello world example.
<fasta>
thomasga: writing such a demo takes 1/100th of the time to write a tool like typerex.
<fasta>
thomasga: I don't get the point of releasing something which takes eons to configure propertly.
<Kakadu>
Cleaning emacs environment is bad idea
<fasta>
Kakadu: I didn't say that.
<Kakadu>
aaah
<Kakadu>
sorry
<fasta>
Kakadu: perhaps you are French?
<Kakadu>
fasta: no. I know only few word in French
<Kakadu>
s/word/words/
<f[x]>
man, aren't you got better things to do?
<f[x]>
go write some scala
<fasta>
thomasga: all of those 'installation instructions' are completely useless too, because you could easily automate those with even sh scripts.
<fasta>
Add line foo to file bar and that repeated 10 times is NOT an advertisement for a tool.
<fasta>
It's a good advertisement to show you like to create problems for others.
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<Kakadu>
fasta: Thomas os a good guy, Why did you demotivate him?
<fasta>
Kakadu: if that demotivates him, he should grow some balls.
<fasta>
The correct response would be to fix all of these problems to show how awesome he is.
<fasta>
There would however still be the history of sending something which doesn't work in the first place to the rest of the world.
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<fasta>
I call ocamlbuild.native -ocamlc ocp-ocamlc.opt -libs batteries,nums,unix foo-bar-baz.native, but it complains that BatFile is unbound. Now, why would it do that?
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<fasta>
ocamlfind list | grep batt shows batteries and a couple of others.
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<Kakadu>
I never called ocamlbuild manually
<fasta>
Also 'unbound module' is such a ridiculous error message.
<Kakadu>
I recommend you to export ocalmfind.conf somehow
<fasta>
It should say 'I tried to look in the following directories for a file named foo.bar', but didn't find it there.
<Kakadu>
fasta: Yeah it is a Monday now but it doesn't mean that all the world goes to apocalypto
<fasta>
'You should do xyz if you want to add it'.
<fasta>
It doesn't even say which configuration files it is currently using or any other debugging output.
<Kakadu>
fasta: AFAIR versoing output can show you directories
<Kakadu>
verbosing*
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<testcocoon>
Here a small video which shows how to debug ocaml byte code with oqamldebug: http://youtu.be/y70u5fHym_s
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<thelema>
fasta: pastebin your _build/log file
<fasta>
thelema: I already figured out why it happens. The reason is that typerex and ocp-* don't work with 4.01.
<fasta>
thelema: the instructions for typerex are also wrong, since they specify ocaml >=3.12, which seems to be wrong.
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<fasta>
thelema: ocp-ocamlc doesn't compile with opam ocamlc-4.01.
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<fasta>
thelema: in my world it is a fact that typerex and all the infrastructure together do not work with ocamlc-4.01 the way it should work in theory.
<fasta>
thelema: if that's wrong, I would love to see counter proof by anyone.
<fasta>
I don't quite understand it, though. I thought Jane Street was paying to get these tools in working condition.
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<thelema>
fasta: they are, but it's a small company that's working on this
<fasta>
thelema: what's delivery date? ;)
<thelema>
none that's been publicly announced
<fasta>
thelema: I have the impression that development stopped on it.
<fasta>
thelema: there are 28 open bugs, some open for months.
<fasta>
It seems more like it was an experiment that has been abandoned.
<thelema>
they lost their main typerex developer, iirc, so there has been some interruption
<thelema>
consider the current typerex as dead.
<thomasga>
(the next version is in the typerex2 branch, which is already quite stable)
<thelema>
thomasga: release? code?
<thelema>
thomasga: do you use it?
<thomasga>
(and yes, we do not plan to support the current version any longer, the output of this project is the -binannot compiler extension)
<thomasga>
yes, I'm using it every day, but no release date yet