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<Algebr> json
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<minn> Can you write a function in standard OCaml that is parameterized over a data constructor (for example, returns true whenever a value of a variant type was constructed using a particular constructor)?
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<etc> Does ocaml have an idea of a static method - like a function namespaced by the class?
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<companion_cube> Algebr: meh, no comments :(
<companion_cube> minn: `function A _ -> true | _ -> false` ?
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<minn> companion_cube: I meant something like `fun p x -> match x with | p _ -> true | _ -> false`, not `function P _ -> true | _ -> false`. The former won't work, as is.
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<companion_cube> ah, no, you can't indeed
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<companion_cube> constructors must be fully applied, and patterns are not first class anyway
<minn> Yeah, I know there's no first-class patterns. But I figured there might be a nice way around the problem. Thanks anyways :)
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<nicoo> minn: well, in that specific case you can replace p with a (t -> bool) function
<nicoo> and more generally with a (t -> typeof_content option)
<nicoo> Not sure that's what you want
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<minn> nicoo: Right, but that requires one function per constructor (AFAIK). I guess a little boilerplate isn't the end of the world.
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<brunoro> hi peeps!
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<brunoro> is there such a thing as a bigarray with 24bit integers?
<brunoro> or 24bit elements in that sense
<flux> good question. I would say no.
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<flux> there are two-dimensional bigarrays though
<brunoro> not exactly what i need :/
<brunoro> i'm using tsdl to access a texture generated by a webcam with 24bit depth
<brunoro> through a bigarray
<brunoro> currently i'm copying the texture to a 32bit format so I can access it
<brunoro> but now i think i'll just write C code that does it directly
<brunoro> as in accessing the texture with the right padding and returning a 32bit integer with some garbage in the end
<brunoro> and avoid that extra copy each frame
<brunoro> flux: i'm guessing there's also no way to store arbitrary data structures, right?
<flux> nope
<flux> well, there is. you could use the serialization functions :)
<flux> but I guess even that would involve copying
<brunoro> aaah :|
<brunoro> i could maybe define it as a char array and do three reads per pixel
<brunoro> lets see
<brunoro> thx
<flux> actually I seem to recall having a related issue re. bigarrays and image manipulation..
<flux> I just used 32-bit integers
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<flux> so you might find the ocplib-endian.bigstring library useful as well
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<brunoro> ah interesting, i'll definitely have a look
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<brunoro> what's with the `= "%identity"` bit in the end of the external definition?
<flux> it is basically the same as = Obj.magic
<flux> ..as a function definition
<flux> except potentially avoid one layer of indirection
<flux> it's the way to do segmentation faults in ocaml ;)
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<flux> best avoided, second best done with care..
<benmachine> the reason why it shows up in interfaces is probably to enable more aggressive optimization
<benmachine> i.e. the function can be eliminated entirely, as a sort of special case of inlining
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<flux> I imagine that as well. not sure if the compiler understands what Obj.magic does.
<flux> hmm, I suppose Obj.magic = "%identity" as well
<asmanur> yes
<flux> so with cross-module inlining that probably works as well..
<benmachine> yeah it's not ultra-clear to me why this is actually necessary, but that would be my best guess at the motivation
<asmanur> yes the point is allow the compiler to remove the calls at runtime
<Drup> it's used to be necessary
<Drup> it's not anymore
<flux> it was probably introduced when the compiler wasn't quite as smart. and bytecode probably isn't that smart in any case.
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<benmachine> yeah but on the other hand nobody expects bytecode to be smart, so they're probably not upset when it isn't :P
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<nicoo> minn: Well, you can use ppx_deriving to define the per-constructor projector functions for you, if you like crushing flies with anvils (or if you have tons of them)
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<orbifx1> anyone knows what's the official omake issue tracker?
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<orbifx1> Their website seems outtouched for years and the bugtracker link seems to go to a now irrelevant website.
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<Algebr> probably email gerd
<Algebr> def`: ping
<orbifx1> gerd?
<Algebr> author of ocamlfind, he's been doing omake improvements lately.
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<orbifx1> actually, I think I can post this issue here: https://github.com/ocaml/opam-repository
<orbifx1> since it's opam related
<Algebr> I guess you could argue that anything ocaml is eventually opam related...
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<orbifx1> hehe, this is opam related Algebr
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<bitbckt> j
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<orbifx1> why j?
<bitbckt> why not?
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<orbifx1> it's a bit j-ish..
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