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<Drup>
malthe: do you have the last menhir version ?
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<ocaml596>
Couldn't understand how to impose order here ? The gets should return parameters for find (find x )( get y)( get z )
<Drup>
let f = find x in let y' = get y in let z' = get z in f y' z'
<Drup>
If you want to impose order of evaluation, use let bindings
<ocaml596>
So find has 3 paramters here ? x, y and z
<ocaml596>
Ok. I think I get it.
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<malthe>
Drup: let me try and update menhir
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<malthe>
that does seem to fix the main issue.
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<malthe>
Drup: I get another error "Error: Unbound value Parser.modlist", but "modlist" is a symbol in parser.mly.
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<malthe>
if you clone to repo and "make build-js" then you should see this.
<malthe>
newbie build troubles :~|
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<Drup>
best to wait for stephen's answer
<malthe>
k
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<malthe>
i'm trying to understand his paper and his code with the objective of writing an implementatin in C
<Drup>
why would you ever want to implement a type checker in C ?
<malthe>
its not terrible
<companion_cube>
some people write their dependent type checker in C++ ;-)
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<Drup>
malthe: compared to any language with ADT ? Yes it is.
<malthe>
I dispatch on id field and use anonymous struct/union (C11) to avoid clutter (and use unique field names for every term/node type).
<johnelse>
is there an easy way to get the tyxml pretty printer to output nicely formatted xml? I basically want the same output I'd get by piping through xmllint --format
<Drup>
johnelse: it's not implemented, but it should be easy to add. I just never bothered
<johnelse>
Drup: ok thanks, maybe I'll have a go
<Drup>
that would be nice
<Drup>
I want it optional, though, since most of the time you don't care, and it would be quite less efficient if you do it with format)
<Drup>
(but that should be easy, just add an optional ~pretty argument)
<johnelse>
yeah, makes sense
<johnelse>
although kinda funny to add a ~pretty argument to a pretty printer :)
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<companion_cube>
~actually_pretty:true
<Drup>
Format is useful both for prettyness and composability :p
<companion_cube>
malthe: I think Drup's point is that OCaml is ∞-ly more convenient than C to write typecheckers
<johnelse>
~prettiness:5
<malthe>
companion_cube: oh yes, definitely, or haskell, but i'm writing a compiler + runtime and to keep things simple (for me), I use C.
<companion_cube>
:/
<companion_cube>
well, good luck to you
<Drup>
that's not simpler, really
<malthe>
depends on your background I guess.
<Drup>
Compilers are actually the one case where I'm pretty sure it's faster to learn the basics of OCAML. Just using ADT+pattern matching without anything else from the language is already ridiculously better
<Drup>
but, well, it's your pain ;)
<malthe>
the downside is that you need ocaml to build the compiler then.
<malthe>
and ocaml has multiple versions, packages, etc. its an added dependency that has a cost, obviously.
<Drup>
which is available on most plateforms and in most distributions
<malthe>
very true
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<orbifx>
kakadu: made a pull request
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<_andre>
hi
<_andre>
i have a ppx rewriter that needs to save some state, and i'm doing that by saving a dump file of the marshalled data
<_andre>
(kinda hackish but i couldn't find another way)
<_andre>
anyway, it worked fine when building the tests, but now i'm trying to actually use the rewriter from another project, and the files are preprocessed in the "wrong" order, so it dies because the dump file wasn't created yet
<_andre>
is there a way to force a different order in this case, or maybe some less hackish way to keep state with ppx?
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<rfv>
does anyone have any example on how to change the OUnit2 timeout ? I'm doing a coding challenge which takes more than one minute to test and I can't get the test running because of OUnit's timeout
<freehck>
People, is there some library providing some analog of Racket Ports for Ocaml? The point is an ability to work with read/write functions using ports instead of Ocaml's channels. And it may be anything behind the port: it may be a fd, it may be Buffer, or String (Bytes for write operations).
<companion_cube>
not that I know of
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<orbifx>
is it possible to assing a name to a signature of a function and then reuse that for function parameters?
<vinoski>
orbifx: yes, just define a type
<orbifx>
like: type callback: a -> b -> c ?
<orbifx>
will try
<vinoski>
orbifx: yes except = not :
<orbifx>
ok thansk vinoski
<orbifx>
yeah when i got to writing it I ended up with that
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<rfv>
vinoski: works with specifying OUnitTest.Long, but meanwhile I figured out I was compiling to bytecode which for my use case is 7 times slower than native. If I compile to native it works out of the box, without changing the timeout
<vinoski>
rfv: nice, even better
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<ilovezfs_>
did anyone get camlp5 working with 4.04.0?
<orbifx>
kakadu: is the a function in lablqt to get the objects from the Qml context?
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<kakadu>
No, I felt it is not needed
<kakadu>
Well, It is useful only when you set context objects outside of OCaml
<kakadu>
but it seems to be easy to add it
<orbifx>
ok, looking at it now
<orbifx>
Basing that branch on the one I have send for PR though :P
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<kakadu>
ilovezfs_: Do you really need this or it is only curiosity?
<ilovezfs_>
need it for homebrew
<ilovezfs_>
I'm doing the ocaml 4.04.0 upgrade
<ilovezfs_>
and this is one of the few that becomes broken if I push the upgrade
<ilovezfs_>
I don't personally need it. I'm just one of the homebrew maintainers doing what we do hehe
<ilovezfs_>
fedora maintainer hit the same problem :)
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<kakadu>
It should not be very difficult
<ilovezfs_>
that's good news
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<cic>
hm, i'm trying to use something using camlp5. i installed ocaml etc. using brew on mac, and i got camlp5 in transitional mode from this. however, it seems that i need camlp5 in strict mode, so i installed camlp5 with opam and it seems to say that that version is strict ... so far so good. however, when i try to use camlp5 in the repl (the ocaml program) it seems that ocaml tries to use the "system" camlp5
<cic>
instead of the version from opam (because it complains about some inconsistent files). any ideas how to get ocaml to use the version installed by opam?
<kakadu>
You can try installing ocaml in separate opam switch
* kakadu
thinks that camlp5 gains some popularity last days....
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<cic>
kakadu: do you mean "opam switch <some version>"? i tried that but it still finds the system camlp5 :(.
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<kakadu>
and after that you need to install camlp5 in that switch
<kakadu>
also you can occasionly forget to update environment after switching to new switch
<orbifx>
kakadu, I wish to generalise our PropMap, so that it doesn't only support Qt Quick property maps, but any kind of binding
<orbifx>
have you any thoughts or opinions on this?
<orbifx>
want to PM so that we don't spam the room?
<cic>
kakadu: i installed it and did the eval env thing also. but i think the problem is that it still finds the system camlp5 and sometimes uses it instead of the version installed by opam
<kakadu>
cic: what does `ocamlfind query camlp5` say?
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<kakadu>
Also it can be an error in the way you are trying to use camlp5 in REPL
<kakadu>
AFAIR you need to \#load "camlp5o.cma";;
<kakadu>
orbifx: Do you get private messages in IRC?
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<cic>
and now it works ... i realized that i didn't install camlp5 in the new switch after all. i have ocaml 4.03.0 as system compiler, then i picked a newer compiler, but camlp5 didn't work with that version, and i checked for camlp5 with which instead of ocamlfind (stupid mistake). but ocamlfind didn't find camlp5 after i switched to 4.03.0 from opam! so i installed it and using "ocaml -I `camlp5 -where`" i can
<cic>
use camlp5 in the repl.
<cic>
kakadu: thank you!
<orbifx>
yeah was afk kakadu
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<companion_cube>
anyone has problems building the last version of omake?
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<copy`>
I am able to install omake without problems (from opam)
<companion_cube>
version 0.10.1?
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<copy`>
Yep
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<companion_cube>
hmpf, weird
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<lujara>
Hi, I'm a total beginner with ocaml and am trying to insert a value into a sorted int list. Could someone tell me what's wrong with my function? http://pastebin.com/kVwW9u7r
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<koala_man>
how do I search for ocaml functions? in Haskell I'd use Hoogle
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<justin_smith>
lujara: I don't know for sure, but my first guess is precedence issues between all the infix operators you are using, so parens might help
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<lujara>
justin_smith, infix operator would be the "::"?
<justin_smith>
lujara: :: and compare are both infix
<lujara>
added parenthesis but the error persists
<lujara>
the compiler says that it expects "value" to be a function
<lujara>
i dont see why :s
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<Algebr```>
koala_man: I like using ocp-browser
<Algebr```>
not exactly hoogle
<octachron>
lujara, look at the condition in "if "head compare value" "
<lujara>
octachron, what about it? I'm probably missing something really obvious
<lujara>
"compare" is supposed to be something like "<="
<octachron>
companion_cube, omake build fails for me too. Since it seems to be documentation related, it could be triggered by the presence of hevea
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<octachron>
lujara, replace "head" by "f", compare => x, value ⇒ y: (head compare vale) ⇒ f x y
<octachron>
i.e., "compare" is not an infix operator, when you write "head compare value" you are applying head as a function the arguments compare and value
<justin_smith>
lujara: oh, I should have checked, it was compare that is not infix
<justin_smith>
octachron: yeah - I was just playing with it, that's the problem exactly, thanks for checking it
<justin_smith>
sorry for speaking up before actually trying it myself
<lujara>
ahh i get the problem
<lujara>
so i should rather do compare head value
<lujara>
in order to use compare as a function
<justin_smith>
yup, that fixes it (or at least it compiles now for me)
<lujara>
neat, and it actually makes sense :p
<lujara>
also np justin_smith, always appreciate people trying to help c:
<lujara>
thanks you two
<octachron>
lujara, yes, to complete the explanation, the weird type error was due to the fact that since you were applying head, the compiler deduced that list was a list of functions
<lujara>
i see
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<lujara>
ok now why does eclipse keep running the same old binary instead of actually compiling a new one ._.
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<Leonidas>
what is the magical incantation I need to put in _tags to let ocamlbuild know that a module requires a package?
<Leonidas>
I have <**/web.ml>: package(webmachine) but that fails linking
<Leonidas>
I don't want to add it to the true:-rules because I don't want to link it into every binary.
<Leonidas>
I suppose I need to add some other <**/web.???>: rule but which one would that be?
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<Onemorenickname>
Hi people
<Onemorenickname>
I'm trying to do some network things in ocaml
<Onemorenickname>
and i got type bitfield = Int64.t list
<Onemorenickname>
now, i'm trying to send it with sendto
<Onemorenickname>
but sendto expects a string
<Onemorenickname>
how can i use a string as a bitfield ?
<Onemorenickname>
or learn more about intern representation of strings, and how sendto uses it
<Onemorenickname>
?
<octachron>
Leonidas, I think you only need to add a " "binary_name.native" : package(…)" tag
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<Leonidas>
octachron: yep, thanks, that worked :)
<octachron>
Onemorenickname, a short-term solution might be to use the Marshal module
<Onemorenickname>
octachron, and a long term one ?
<Onemorenickname>
(i don't see how marshall would help though. marshalling every int64, concatenating the result, and send it through sendto ?)
<octachron>
Onemorenickname, you can marshal the whole list
<Onemorenickname>
but it won't be a bitfield
<Onemorenickname>
just a string representation of my list
<Onemorenickname>
i have a protocol with specific formatting for my packets
<octachron>
Onemorenickname, if you have a specific protocol in mind, you can write it directly?
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<octachron>
since a string/ Bytes.t is just an array of bytes in OCaml
<octachron>
(or use one of the bynary protocol generator)
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<Onemorenickname>
octachron, i don't understand what you mean by "writing it directly"
<Onemorenickname>
(that's what i'm trying to do, writing at the bit level in a string)
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<octachron>
Onemorenickname, something like "let write b k n = for i = 0 to 7 do b.[k+i]<- char_of_int ( (n lsr (8*i)) land 0xFF) done" ?
<Onemorenickname>
if i do so, the resulting string will be a c-like bitfield ?
<Onemorenickname>
(like, char[] ?)
<Onemorenickname>
if yes, where can i find the doc ?
<Onemorenickname>
(i believe you, but i'd like to be able to find it by myself next time)
<octachron>
Do you mean in term of memory representation for string/Bytes.t? If so, you could look either at the corresponding chapter in either manual or RWO.
<octachron>
( I am a bit confused on what you think strings are in OCaml.)
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<Onemorenickname>
octachron, basically, i don't know what strings are in OCaml.
<Onemorenickname>
i don't know if its a (char list * int) or wtvr
<Algebr```>
Onemorenickname: like at what level, at the OCaml level or the implementation level ?
<Onemorenickname>
the ocaml level
<Algebr```>
its a string type
<octachron>
Strings are just (specialized) arrays
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